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i agree with @Meaker@Sager . If i knew that there going to be TM in 6-12 months, i would wait. And you are aware that there is going to be new MOBO, now socket, new processor and totally new chassis that on paper surpass everything without SLI that we saw.

So better to wait than be sorry. TM's is EOL, it have around 1-2 years now. No official support. Best thing you can do is to wait for new 17inch clevo. It wont be way more expensive than TM is now.

 

Old but not obsolete.

 

I’m betting a 10900K with RTX2080 Super will be the next top end DTR from Clevo.

I wish intel would have kept the same socket. Or I wish they would drop a CPU refresh for Z390.

They should drop a (10) core for Z370/Z390 chipset.

And call it, 9910K or maybe 9910KSX lol

Next gen will be the usual improvement. Probably 20% faster in multithreaded. The 9900K is still the king of performance. It destroys 1080P/1440P high refresh rate gaming. This chip is gonna perform well for years and years. And the GPU can always be upgraded. Hopefully they do not change the MXM form factor again.

 

10900K is ~20% faster with 25% more cores than 9900k.
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-claims-core-i9-10900k-is-2-to-30-faster-than-core-i9-9900k

Yikes.

 

You want Intel to keep a socket designed for quad core?

 

Ok I’m excited. I want a 10900K. But the CPU market has got to slow down.

I got 50 cores! No no

I got 100 cores!

No no well I got 400 cores!

Just in 2016 a 6950XE was a $1,700 dollar monster! Now, it gets matched by a 6-8 core cpu that is clocked high. Or crushed By a Mainstream AMD CPU.

Why can’t our graphics cards advance this fast? Video cards from 2016 are still competitive and capable of high end performance.

 

Because CPUs advanced artificially slowly for a decade.

 

The 10 core intels are gonna be insane. I’d be happy with running something like that at 4 to maybe 4.3Ghz in a laptop. Power draw will probably be pretty extreme going any higher. I just don’t think it’ll be possible.

 

The 10-core is rated for 125W TDP at its base clock of 3.7GHz in a non-AVX load, to give you an idea of the amount of heat it’s putting out.

 

4.0 or even 4.3GHz is a downgrade for gaming. Clock frequency still matters.

 

I'd expect similar power consumption to the current chips, so a binned chip will likely be fairly sensible up to 4.7GHz ish where it will start to get expensive for every extra 100mhz.

 

Around 300W or more, according to this. Which makes sense at those speeds and two extra cores.

 

It will be a linear progression with a few % of power due to the process not changing (I've not seen the actual numbers myself yet).

 

It's safe to say it'll be a hot chip due to that.

 

Hi. The first prototype of a custom heatsink CPU on KM (TM).

P.S. Colleagues who are familiar with soldering heatsink please write. I want to understand the correct soldering technology. Thx

 

@Khenglish

 

That's a contact plate with very big fins, it will do worse than the current one most likely.

 

Internal fins like that don't matter since there's no air flow over them.

Are you also building a radiator, or are you using the original and original heat pipes?

 

Judging by the layout, it's going to reuse the pipes and radiator. Bending heatpipes is a pain and you need the right tools not to kink them, else they lose too much performance.

 

That's why I mentioned the third fan.

 

You modify the 2nd GPU fan, close it off in the front and reroute the air from the side. That way you get some airflow over there.

 

It's an interesting project, hope to see more pictures and some data from testing.

 

Yeah, that was what we saw with the 9900K. Where 4.7Ghz runs decent temps/power, while pushing all the 8 cores 300Mhz more really spices things up.

 

That will be the exponential part of the curve for power vs frequency. More core multiplies that.

 

10 core chips will likely see this at an even higher level.

 

Yes not only more cores but the average quality of the cores drops on the higher end chips as it's more likely you get a weaker core.

 

That's one of the caveats of monolithic dies.

 

Chiplets too depending on binning

 

Hi Guys, Is there any tool beside clevo control center which I can set the lid light? To be honest I hate CCC, however I need to puke from the greed lid color

 

No, I don't think so.

 

Bad news, but thanks for your reply

 

It runs blue if you don't install any software

 

For me the lid is green, keyboard blue...

 

Prema did edit the default to white on my bios/ecu.

 

KeyboardLED from ObsidianPC doesn't work?

 

Works fine, but I cannot set the lid light. For 751tm1 front stripe is has option, but not for 870 lid

 

Hi, I have a 165 Hz monitor connected to my 870km1 through the Mini DisplayPort. Can I add a second monitor (4k@60hz) through the second Mini DisplayPort without sacrificing performance? Can my 870km1 handle both monitors at max performance? Let’s assume my gpu can run what I want at max fps.

 

Yes each displayport is a separate channel. All 2D content will be fine and 3d content wont go across both properly anyway as the resolutions are different so that's not a worry.

 

Thank you for your reply!

The 3k@165hz is a g-sync monitor and the 4k@60hz is a g-sync compatible monitor. Can I play a game on my 3k@165hz monitor while watching Netflix/youtube/twitch on my 4k@60hz without any issues?

 

There might be a slight hit to your fps but it should be ok.

 

Does this device feature a headphone amplifier respectively can it handle 250Ohm hifi headphones like the beyerdynamic DT990Pro?

 

Yes it has a dedicated adaptive amp, I'm not sure where it goes up to off the top of my head.

 

That sounds like a nice contrast to the matte body.

 

It's not bad, you can still change it of course with windows loaded.

 

Not here, CCC filth has naver been installed on the system So it defaults to all blue.

 

Lol well I do get my colour from my custom RGB cooling stand which has its own app to control so I guess that helps.

 

I've also heard from some very respectable people that blue rgb also makes the system run cooler.

 

Red makes it run faster though

 

Well, I did gain 10c, so I might just use that headroom

 

I've started playing through doom external and it has been very smooth so far.