*** Official Clevo P870TM-R Owner's Lounge - Phoenix 5 ***

AMD pressure or not, Intel couldn't even sell more chips than they already do due to production limitations.

 

Until that is resolved they are not going to drop prices hugely as that would be giving away money for no reason.

Demand and supply.

 

This is a very good point. Heck, they even began selling chips labeled as "KF".These had faulty graphics, but they were scavenged parts to meet the demand.

 

It's just x299 and non xeon chips that are suffering at all.

 

https://eetimes.jp/ee/spv/2001/16/news019.html

 

I wish I could read moon runes.

 

Google translate does very well

 

Hello guys. I have got myself p870tm1 from eurocom, with rtx 2070. However there is the most basic cooling system for the gpu - standard 1 card, 1 heatsink, 3 heatpipes style cooling with part number 6-31-p872n-203.

Could someone advise what is part number of the gpu heatsink, that utilises both gpu fan (2 heatsink, but not vapor chamber) and fits the rtx2070 card?

 

There are some mods needed for the 20xx series iirc. You might be best off speaking to HID regarding a modified part.

 

hey,
maybe you found a solution with a sound driver?

 

True, but still.

 

I just got my P870TM-R after my P775 died and wanted to share a bit of feedback.
I was hesitating a bit to order now, since the X170 might come out soon, and NVIDIA 3080, NVIDIA 2080 Super mobile, Comet-Lake-S, you name it...
Most interesting would actually be a Ryzen 16 core laptop, or threadripper... but OK, I needed a system now.
@Donald@HIDevolution was extremely helpful while ordering and HIDEvolution did ship very fast despite Christmas and New Year's holidays.
The system is assembled well and they were incredibly responsive to inquiries, totally up to their reputation.

I have to say I am totally happy with the system. It runs much faster and still quieter than the old one.
The 9900KS runs stable at -100mV undervolt, I'll try more undervolt later.
The 8 cores run smoothly at 5 GHz with normal workload, with AVX heavy workload it can't hold 5 GHz since power and temperature are skyrocketing. I was anyway kind of expecting this, it needs a water-cooled desktop for this.
But what is actually more important to me, with all 16 threads loaded at around 4.4 GHz, it remains quiet (well, still louder than my desktop, but nothing beats a proper water cooling).
What bothers me most is that the 2080 is crippled to 150W, which is kind of an insult to this chassis. Stupid NVIDIA. Time for AMD to come up with a competitive GPU!

 

Congrats. The only system I would buy today

Clevo to blame for the 150W power cap. Asus released the 2080 with 200W. But this will be changed with the coming Mobile 2080 Super cards.

And AMD won't be able to come up on par with Nvidia. Not even close.

 

Are we really going to see 2080 Super Mobile? Because I am tempted to grab a RTX2080 and sell my GTX1080. But if the Super MXM is really coming then i’ll wait.

I figure the 2080 Super mxm would tie me over until Ampere clevo laptops are settled in.

The 2080 Super would be a solid upgrade over my GTX1080.

 

For me as well since the Eurocom 780W PSU. Traveling with 2 power bricks and that stupid converter box was a no-go for me.

Well, perhaps we can transplant that BIOS to other clevo 150W cards, without the problems that might arise from the ASUS / Alienware BIOS.

Well, at least they are matching Intel's CPU performance now, and Navi is already a step up from Vega, so I am not giving up hope yet.

 

A modded vbios or just hardmod the card. It will raise the ceiling for sure, but all mxm 2080's are still clock limited to 2100Mhz.

 

What do you mean by hardmod? Shuntmod?

 

Softmod = vbios / hardmod = hardware modification. (Shuntmod, hardmod, powermod... all the same really)

Softmod is just easier to revert back to stock

 

Flashing a 2080 Super vBIOS onto a regular 2080 card sounds like the recipe for a brick.

 

Though I wouldn't recommend doing this for anything other than a quick bench in order to not fry the board, we can cross-flash e.g. the AW vBIOS.

To get the best everyday performance I would always stick to undervolting via MSI Afterburner instead.

2080S has more shaders than 2080, so that would end in a brick.

 

Unless you reballed the right core as well

 

Hi guys just wanted to know how many MVNe slots this laptop has?

 

3. + 2x2.5” sata slots.

 

Thanks, I'm running out of space but didnt want to lose my current mvne.

 

Plenty of room

 

I by chance anyone aware of a good linux tool to undervolt the GPU?

 

I don't think there is one...

To control clocks you can use this:

https://gitlab.com/leinardi/gwe

 

Create a windiws VM and pass through the gpu to something that can use it properly

 

Hello Everyone,

I am in the process of getting an 870tm, and will be installing most of the hardware myself.

Quick question regarding ram:
https://memory.net/product/hma82gs6...4-3200-sodimm-pc4-25600s-dual-rank-x8-module/ OR
https://www.newegg.com/hyperx-32gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820104836?&quicklink=true OR
https://www.newegg.com/black-diamon...dr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820014197?&quicklink=true OR
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820232714?&quicklink=true OR
do you have a better option?

Thank you for letting me pick your brain.

 

The cheaper well known branded one in stock would be my suggestion.

 

Oh man!! Clevo having officially discontinued the P870 was so so unfortunate and such a deal breaker for me!
I had a P870KM-G, which was the best laptop I've ever owned; and I was looking forward to seeing a SLI version, which is no longer happening I guess.

The number ONE reason that made me go for the P870 was its I/O ports. The only laptop on the market that had more I/O than any other competitions. Second was the hardware, followed by the speakers. Mine had support for 3 NVMe drives (1 supports intel optane), and two 2.5" drive, and 4 RAM slots

I do know that some vendors still offer it unofficially with the latest hardware, but my question though is:

Will Clevo be making a successor to the P870 with the same or more I/O ports anytime soon?

 

Will never be something like P870 or P570 anymore. Coming s models will have the narrow bezels so the chassis will be both smaller and thinner all ways. Probably not the worst model from most brand regarding I/O ports. But not as before.

*** Official Clevo X170SM-G Owner's Lounge ***

 

We needed the return of 18.3" panels. It just needs to be 4k 120hz hdr 1000 so it does not need replacing for a while

 

I had a 3200Mhz G.Skill kit and can hearty recommend it if you plan on overclocking or tightening the timings.

 

Quick question:
Does the P870TM support a 32GB RAM module?

 

I checked the official manual, and it's only listed 4/8/16 as compatible modules.

 

Thanks a lot for the quick reply!!

 

Officially no due to the age of the board so not verified. My guess is 2x 32 should be ok, there could be funny issues potentially with 4x 32gb.

 

That's a lot of ranks of memory. Not sure if Prema bios has better support for 32Gb modules.

 

I have seen support for 128GB in some of the newer Clevos, so this must be 4*32. Not sure if you need a bios update though.

 

Actually I think Prema bios does support larger modules, since you have an option to enable it in the bios. @Prema

 

It does. I saw it as an option under the Bios on my unit while poking around.

 

@Prema any thoughts on the ram situation?

 

Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

 

Should be enough for a few virtual machines

 

Quick question... Did g-sync support on the 3K panels for the P870TM-R ever become a thing? Ie for the B173QTN01.0 & 4?

Thx for any info you have.

 

I don't think they ever passed validation.

 

My new EVOC P870TM-R DTR notebook!

Hi friends,

Thank you for the advice/observations you had for me in my earlier "Deciding between an EVOC P775TM-R and P870TM-R" thread. I'm now ready to replace the ASUS ROG G751JY-DH71 gaming laptop I've used for five years, with the EVOC P870TM-R DTR notebook!

Whenever I make a big decision, my decision-making process tends to go as an exponentially decaying sinusoid. The first maximum positive swing was when I was all excited about the Area 51m. I was ready to pull the trigger within the week! Then the more I learned the more I came to realize it was a bad choice for a variety of reasons. That was the maximum negative swing.

Then I oscillated between the P870 and P775 (and GT76) until I settled logically on the former. One of the reasons for my choice (other than excellent thermals and build), was the relative stability of the configuration (esp compared to the newer 51m and GT76). Like my G751, I do not intend to do much in the way of upgrading. Therefore the EOL status of the P870 wasn't a liability. Converging on my DTR solution was aided by lurking in these forums, and via one @Donald@HIDevolution (since I decided to buy from his company). As you have all read from numerous other accounts, Donald was patient, and gave alternatives based on my expectations and desires (including the upcoming X170), and not necessarily towards the biggest immediate profit for his company. I think this corporate culture speaks, in part, to the company's long term success in this competitive market.

After a bit of a rough ordering process (Zelle really isn't meant for large cash purchases), as of last Friday the parts were on order and I should have the machine, the M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank of DTR's, by the beginning of March. Just in time for Half-Life Alyx at max settings!

My configuration includes the 9900KS and RTX2080, but I am providing my own memory (2 x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB), my own storage (Samsung SSD 860 EVO 4TB) and my own ram (?? Kingston HyperX Impact 2 to 4 x 16GB 2933MHz DDR4 CL17 ??). I'll be installing my own Windows 10 Education version (may as well since it's free from work).

I hope the group won't mind my leaning on them for advice going forward - in particular choosing the fastest (CL included) RAM the system can reliably use based on other's experiences. Side question, why does the CL speed tend to decrease (lower is better) as the clock speed decreases (even though higher is better). CL14/2400MHz to CL20/3200MHz... Why can't I order Kingston HyperX 3200MHz with CL14 (would that even work - without heavy tuning - in the P870)?

For those using a fast SSD such as the 970 EVO Plus, are M.2 heatsinks mandatory? What can the P870 chassis accommodate? Just a thin copper strip? Or a low profile heatsink w/ fins?

And finally, is paying ~$40 for Obsidian Fan Control worth it over the Clevo Control Center? How about the Obsidian Updater app (just a gimmick for the lazy?)?

Thanks one and all for your previous advice, and any future guidance you can give as I prepare for my M1 to arrive.

Cheers

 

The sweetspot for performance/dollar is ~3200Mhz, CL16/18 and can be tuned further down with some patience, given you get single ranked 8Gb modules with something like B-die.

 

OK, thanks for the info. The following site seems to be a good database for available memory sets.

https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

I'm still learning some of the lexicon of the community, though. What does "single ranked" modules mean?