I would think that's the same thing man
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
One requires getting into the machine, the other does not.
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Wish I knew this earlier! haha but now I know for future my man. -
I sometimes do a restart / power off and the laptop wont fully shutoff it just goes throught the proccess of shutting down / restarting and it has a blank screen (off) and it keeps the power button on (powered led) but stays there.
I have to manually turn it off and turn it back on, this sometimes happens on wake also.
Any insight here? Its becoming more and more common in the last 2-3 weeks.
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Wondering if this is normal.
Ive had this about 2-3 months and Im showing wear level of 4.3%. On my previous clevo i had this in about 2-3 years. Here is the screenshot https://imgur.com/a/SsNAjvj
I dont think thats normal for barley any use on battery, ive always kept it charged.
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Battery wear does settle over time, just keep an eye on it.
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Any idea on the blank screen issue on shutdown / restart?
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So Also a weird thing im noticing, i get higher scores on firestrike in entertainment mode rather than performance, kinda weird there. Anyone have any idea why?
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Any pattern to the issue of when it occurs, just on the desktop? In games?
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Basically look to see if there was a trigger to help narrow down the cause.
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After goofing around with afterburner and using the OC scanner, I set my memory offset to +810, and now I get around 17900 on Fire Strike. changes every time I test but it is always a bit higher or lower. Wondering what other people have? I have Throttlestop set to -100 on core and cache (anything higher and I get errors when doing TS Bench) and my thermals while gaming are low 60's gpu, low 70's cpu.
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That's pretty decent man. Tbh my auto oc always crashes. I think we should work out a undervolt for the gpu it would benefit it alot.
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What games are you playing at those temps?
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I'm getting about 68-70 on GPU and about 65-68 on cpu playing red dead redemption 2 at 75hz.
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A slight undervolt a moderate overclock for 24/7 often yields the best long term results.
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You mean a custom voltage curve for the card yes dude?
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gta v and witcher at max settings
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I might have to pickup GTAV next time it's on sale to compare. I've always wanted to try some of the mods anyway. Most games I play still heat the CPU up to upper 80s - 90 (i have speed shift set to 98 which usually keeps it in the mid-80s range), and the GPU up to 85-86 even with Mastergel Maker Nano (Kryonaut equivalent) and thermal pads.
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Interesting. I've got Speed Shift set to 0. I also have my computer propped up with an X-Stand
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So anyone have an idea on undervolt of GPU then?
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Modify the clock curve with control f and move the lower voltages up to the higher clock speeds.
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I think it's just alot of testing and trying curves
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I'm currently using the XTU built-in to Control Center to do this, but I think with ThrottleStop you have to install "RwDrv.sys" to your ThrottleStop folder and set the "Disable and Lock Turbo Power Limits" in the FIVR window. Don't know if that's changed.
Even with Control Center's XTU it doesn't always stick. Occasionally the XtuService has a dummy spit and has to be restarted before any Power Limits could be applied. Also, the EC seems to apply the default [inaccessible] BIOS settings 55/107 watts each time the power state changes, such as unplugging, battery starting to charge, waking from sleep, etc.
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Hello I have upgrade my BIOS in PB71RF-G from 1.07.11 very to 1.07.15 and after that my fans runs at max speed even when I work under browser and word !!!
It's possible to downgrade bios? I have Obsidian tools pack and it dosent helps ;-(
My laptop has liqid metal on cpu/gpu and I make some mod with down cover - make bigger holes ...
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Double check the control centre and power settings.
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I have normal or silent settings ...
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Are the temperatures different at all?
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cpu temperature is fluctuating between 48-80 - it rise so rapid from 48 to 70-80 and drop ... so fan working fast and sloow ... damm it!
I use afterburner to monitor cpu and gpu. I use Obsidian Control Station for undervolt (-135mV, 1 core 37x, 2 cores 35x, 3 cores 33x, 4 cores 32x)
No throttling ... under AIDA64 extreme.
I'm wating for new Grizzly Conductonaut Liquid metal. It should arrived today - so I will disassemble my laptop and reapply it on cpu and gpu. -
OK, I now what happend but I don't knew how to fix it! After BIOS upgrade my CPU is fix and it works at 4000mhz
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
So you updated the firmware again?
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No, but I disable Obsidian Control Station and run Intel Extreme Tunig and I Was able to change CPU settings. Tomorrow I will call for Obsidian support and I will ask whats going on ...
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
The one with the best balance of performance and noise for you, every user and chip is different
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Wait you have 107w applied to pl2? Thats wild man.
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Is anybody running linux? I'm running Mint on a PB70EF-G (Powerspec 1720). It's running pretty cleanly; keyboard LED control doesn't seem to work, but pretty much everything else is OK except for the CPU pstates. Intel's i7z reports that turbo is being disabled, and CPU freq is capped at 2.2Ghz. This is also reflected in "/sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/no_turbo" is "1" rather than "0"
If I try to explicitly enable turbo, I get a kernel message " intel_pstate: Turbo disabled by BIOS or unavailable on processor"
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
So mint is seeing a disable flag in the BIOS, that might be your clue, a bug in where it is looking?
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I figured it out. The last time I'd booted into Windows 10, I'd left it set in the "Powersave" mode in the clevo command center. That must be updating the BIOS/ACPI tables. Booting windows and switching that back to "Performance" fixed the turbo issues in Linux. I switched it back to "Powersave" in windows again, rebooted into linux and sure enough, turbo was disabled again.
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Nice catch, yes the clevo software does integrate deeply.
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That's the default settings that mine comes with when Performance mode is enabled, with the stock BIOS.
Actually, without the GPU running in Mshybrid mode mine will happily draw up to 90W continuously with PL1 set to 100W when the fans are clean, but I keep my all core turbo at 4.2 GHZ (9980HK).
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Played The Division 2 for 3 hours. Those are some nice PCH temps. Noticed no negative effects while playing under those PCH temps, so I guess it's fine.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Those temps are on the high side of things.
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Ill play some more div 2 today and check mine, Bear in mind i Have 17. I think maybe getting pad in there with a small sink might be ok.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Have 17 what?
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I read previously some members on either the 15 inch or 17 inch see high temperatures like 90's. I'm hoping the temperature sensor is off by +20 at this point. The temps in the screenshots was when I used the laptop + X-stand + gaming in Division 2.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
PCH temps will go up with i/o basically so disk benchmarks and the like will place it under the highest load.
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Anyone want to give us a hand uving the gpu?
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Bring a slightly lower voltage up to where your 3d clock settles at, then move down another step if that works in games and keep going until it does not, then back off a couple of steps for stability.
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Not going to lie was hoping someone figured it out before I did haha!
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