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    *** Official Clevo Sager NP9155 / P750TM-G / P751TM-G Owner's Lounge! ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Oct 6, 2017.

  1. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    I think @Prema added Metabox. They are not listed on his web site, but I remember hearing/reading something about it. Look in your BIOS and see if there is any reference to being a PremaMod Partner and ask Metabox.

    For your GTX 1060, watch this video.


     
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  2. Unkn0wn?

    Unkn0wn? Newbie

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    My Metabox comes with the Prema Bios I just want to know if there is any guide explaining the setting I should change in the Bios to overclock my Intel 8700k.

    Thanks
     
  3. Meaker@Sager

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    I cut holes, put in a high airflow grill and made mine temperature sensitive. You don't need to muck about with the internals then:

     
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    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    Last one in is a rotten egg...
    @Donald@HIDevolution
     
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    j3rwin Notebook Enthusiast

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    Are there any reviews for 9700k/9600k in p750tm1? What are the temps like(when compared to 8700k/8600k)?
     
  7. Meaker@Sager

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    Not much out there just yet.
     
  8. j3rwin

    j3rwin Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'll wait for few more months then.

    Just got another question. I'm planning to upgrade the RAM (currently I have only 8GB 2666MHz). I'm getting pretty good deals for crucial 16GB 2400MHz RAM but I'm worried about the speeds(I don't really have much idea about RAM speeds apart from few benchmark results). Is it really worth spending $30 more for 2800MHz or $60 more for 3000MHz
     
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    30 for 2800 yes, 3000 less so.
     
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    Okay, will there be any considerable difference in real life performance? I'll be mostly using it for dev(c/c++, java mostly), one or two VMs(linux/android) and a lil bit of gaming.
     
  11. Meaker@Sager

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    If you intend to actually stress all 8 cores then yes, otherwise stick with an i5 and go for some slower ram.
     
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    Thanks, I guess I'll go with 2400MHz.
     
  13. Meaker@Sager

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    Under mild use that will be fine, though perhaps a mobile platform also makes more sense then.
     
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  14. Ryan Russ

    Ryan Russ Notebook Consultant

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    Anyone know if the p770tm heatsinks fit inside the p750tm?
     
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    Nope, the P775TM heatsink has thicker rads.
     
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    Thats what I mean by "remove the Unifying bits". Would be really easy to remove that and the 2 thin metal bridges with some tin snips
     
  19. Meaker@Sager

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    Separating the heatsink usually wont help temps really.
     
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    It's barely an issue on the upgraded version of the P750 heatsink.
     
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    It just helps at idle and during heavy CPU or GPU only loading.
     
  22. Stefan Müller

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    Do you think this laptop can handle browsing the web :D

    Do you guys think the P750 TM1 and P870 do will get rtx2080m mxm update as soon as it will be out? Im considering to buy one of those now or should i wait for 280m update? I also want to have the 9900k 8 core.
     
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    Clevo always goes with any reasonable high performance option that's available.
     
  24. Chalupaku

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    So, I just bought a brand new p751tm-1g with a 9700k from Eurocom.

    Unfortunately, it's current limit throttling when idle at stock settings, and max frequency is only 2 Ghz when idle and under load drops to 800(!) Mhz when all eight cores are engaged.

    HWinfo shows massive, constant fluctuations (+/- 1Ghz) in core speed/clock ratio.

    Any ideas why this might be happening?
     
  25. yrekabakery

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    Is the laptop plugged in? Also check what the VR curent limit (in overclocking menu) is set to in the BIOS.
     
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    It actually has more current throttling when plugged in.

    VR current limit is set to 40.

    Under battery power, I can at least get it to stock clocks when idle (though it throttles quickly under load).
     
  27. Meaker@Sager

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    Obviously some sort of power setting in either firmware or software is wrong. Check the BIOS, CCC and windows power settings.
     
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    I've gone over Windows settings a few times and couldn't find anything out of the ordinary. I don't have have CCC installed (as I wanted to limit the number of conflicting programs), but I can check the BIOS. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what standard settings would be; I'll try to find some, but it sounds like Eurocom programmed their own BIOS for the 9700k. Guess I can contact them tomorrow.

    No chance it's a motherboard issue or a short?

    Sorry if that sounds incredibly naive/ignorant, but I haven't had to deal with a problem like this before.

    Thanks for all of the assistance.
     
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    You could try setting BIOS defaults, a short would shut the system down. A hardware issue is unlikely to cause throttling (unless temps are very high).
     
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    40 in the BIOS? There's your problem right there. 40 in units of 1/8 amps would be 5 amps, no wonder there's massive current limit throttling. Set it to 1600.
     
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    The VR current was definitely the cause. It all seems to come down to the BIOS not liking the fact that I'm running the OS off an NVMe drive. Refuses to boot in UEFI and switching messes with a host of other settings.

    Thanks again for the help.
     
  32. yrekabakery

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    Np. Good to know that the BIOS bug where it sets current limit to 40 when you turn off UEFI is still a thing.
     
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    You may need to install the OS in UEFI mode.
     
  34. Ryan Russ

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    What's the recommended thermal pad thickness for a 1070? For vrm, memory, and chokes? Clevo edition.
    Also I had some luck a while back adding some broken fujipoly pads to some alcohol that was 99% iso and then massaging it into a ball. Allowed essentially to use it as a type of really thick paste. Better temps too.
     
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    Please Share Rom ITEC Chip In Clevo P751tm1-g
    Detais info Picture Below :(( Thanks

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    Likely to dry out I would imagine.

    As for the sizes I don't think there is a guide for this model, when I am doing it I buy a 0.5mm sheet and 1mm sheet and stack as necessary.
     
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    Just asking, well has anyone ever tried to upgrade the fans to better quality like the ones on msi and asus laptop?
     
  38. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    MSI has a lot of quality problems on their fans. Many fail and need to be replaced with same ****y.
     
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    Brother papusan what i meant was equivalent quality or better in comparison to name brands.Im not in particular aware how bad/good msi's fan quality is.

    Eg: acer helios has there high density long fin fans, so can we use something like that in our clevo systems.Since we are bottle-necked in regards to heat dissipation i was wondering has anyone tried to use any compatible high quality / performance fans to increase heat dissipation.

    As mr.fox's experiment to add additional heat pipes which was a feat in itself, just increased the heat saturation point, but ultimately heat dissipation is same, so if we improve our fan game with better quality than clevo's, wouldn't that in theory keep our dtr 's more cool, allow for better clocks and component longivity.

    The way i see it for ec and bios cancer we have brother prema, eurocom and obsidian pc who provide custom bios.

    For repaste we literally have this entire forum sharing feedback.

    Then next logical step would be fans.


    Just random thoughts. :rolleyes:
     
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    The different sizes and fan connectors tend to be the main issue.
     
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    I've also tried a wee bit of mineral oil and that works much better on drying out, for the most part.
    It's odd because I feel like my top row of 1070 pads aren't touching despite the fact that they're about 1.5mm off the vram.
     
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    Take the card out and lay the card flat on the heatsink and you can see for yourself.
     
  43. Rocktaze

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    Hey guys,

    I'm being offered a sweet deal on my next Eurocom purchase so i choose the Sky X4C
    http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(2,431,0)SkyX4C

    I'm not exactly sure what configuration to go with right now so i'm open to suggestion.
    Currently debating between these option :

    Screen : 120hz tn 5ms (+129$) vs 144hz 9ms ips (+183$)
    GPU : GTX 1070 (+96$) vs GTX 1080 (+520$)
    Processor : 8700k (0$) vs 8600k (-145$) vs 8400 (-187$) vs 9600k (-62$) vs 9700k (+108$)

    Thanks in advance for the help!
    Also anything i should know about this particular model?
     
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    I like the 144hxz IPS display, the rest depends on your needs.
     
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    I'm honnestly looking at a Price/performance ratio perspective.
    Is the GTX 1080 really worth 424$ more than the GTX 1070?
    As for processor is getting a 8600k for 145$ less a better option than a 9700k for 108$ more?

    Kinda lookin for input on these options
     
  46. yrekabakery

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    Get the 144Hz screen, GTX 1080, and 8700K or 8600K. Absolutely make sure that Eurocom gives you the upgraded heatsink for the GTX 1080!
     
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    What are you looking to do with the machine?
     
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    For whatever reason, after i installed a new 1080 MXM after my 1070, i have had an issue where i keep getting a black screen on boot until i reinstall my GTX 1070. both are Clevo, and after i remove the 1070 and reinstall the 1080, i still get video, but after two or so reboots, i return to a blank screen with no backlight.
     
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    You need to upgrade that 1080 to the Coffee Lake vBIOS in order for it to boot. Flash this using NvFlash in DOS on a USB stick: https://www.sendspace.com/file/8l7b66

    Also I hope you've upgraded the heatsink to the 1080 version as well, or else the GPU is gonna overheat easily.
     
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    I loaded that Vbios and it appears that I now get a backlight for a bit and then a shutdown.
     
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