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Even if i buy a TN panel? Your exact panel is what im getting most likley.

Does yours have light bleed even with it being a TN?

 

Considering im going back to school. I need equivalent power. But i may get a gtx1070, the laptop gtx1070 has 7% more cuda cores than a desktop variant i'd probably be just as happy.

My desktop was STOLEN unfortunately..

[email protected] @1.500 volts, Z170 mini itx. Silicon lottery cpu, Delidded my self, liquid metal. GTX1080 Founders Edition, liquid metal. Shunt mod, memory voltage, mofified bios. On air.

I was getting 26,200 firestrike graphics score daily clock speeds.


Im looking forward to joing the club, with my very own p750tm1g. These things are utterly awesome.

 

I purchased a 30-day warranty for it. There were minimal spots of bleeding, but they're not a problem. It's within, to my knowledge, the range of acceptable bleeding.

 

I just realized i can get 10% off!

The screen type is the hardest choice for me. I may just get a 4K panel on it without G sync. After all, ill be using it for school. So i could use the extra real estate in cad, and other programs. Have not started school yet so im not aware of all the applications ill be using.

Anyone have experience with the 4K panels?

Sharp IGZO Glossy 4K vs Samsung matt finish 4K


Little info online, other than the new Dell xps 2018 uses the igzo 4k glossy panel and looks amazing while doing so.

 

whats up dudes, long time no see

sooooo, just to clear matters up a bit here: a 1080 in this machine, does it work or not? im not talking about "official support" by clevo or resellers nor do i want to know if this config is available "officially" blabla.

i just want to know: is it plug and play? or do i need a special bios / vbios for it to work?

cuz hardware wise i KNOW its possible, HIDEvolution and Eurocom offer this config, after all as for thermals, let me worry about that

@Meaker@Sager @Prema @Donald@HIDevolution @Eurocom Support

 

I would choose a 4K or 3K display, but I like the 120Hz for gaming. I get tired when I use my old M18x R1 because it's only half the refresh rate of my new laptop.

 

For plug'n'play driver support you need the little extra love...

 

I would recommend matte over glossy. I have previously had a Sony Vaoi and a Surface 3 with a glossy screen and the reflections make it very difficult to see especially outdoors. It gave me headaches. I have never had this issue with matte screens.

If possible try and borrow a laptop with a glossy screen to see for yourself.

With 4K, everything I have read tends to not recommend on 15.6" laptop displays mainly because of scaling issues in windows but also that its difficult to notice the difference between 4k and 1080p on smaller screens.

You could use the money you save not getting 4k toward other components like faster/larger SSDs, RAM or beer.

This video explains it really well and is the reason I purchased my p750tm-g with 1080p screen.

 

as always your insight is much appreciated

follow up question: are the pascal clevo machines backward compatible with maxwell gpus? i remember @Mr. Fox having tried 980M(s) in his P870DM2/3 if im not mistaken? i know this might be a strange question, but it would make a potential upgrade path more flexible

maybe @clevo-extreme have tried something like this?

im aware the pascal heatsink fit would have to be adjusted via thermal pads...

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There are no MXM-B heatsinks for these Pascal systems...

 

yeah naturally. but since the pascal cards are so much bigger i figured one could potentially adjust with thermal pad placement? or would this be a lost cause?

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Instead you could try to upgrade your P75xDM with a Clevo 1080 if you are willing to Mod the MXM slot...

 

lol yes i saw that CRAZY mod by @Khenglish , man that guy takes laptop modding to a whole new level!

alternatively i would go the 1070 standard mxm route (with some heatsink modding) and max out my beloved DM with the 32 gigs corsair ddr4-4000, 1tb 960 pro and intel 9260 wifi.

decisions, decisions....and so many options

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Could be the fever talking but IIRC your system doesn't boot with that MXM-B 1070 or 1060. Better double check that before ordering something.

 

dude, take care of yourself @ fever talking and yes, good advice! at this stage im still just doing research...

 

Considering nvidia has stopped production on GP102 Pascal.

And they are working on GA102 new gtx 2070/2080 ampere. They are suppose to announce these next month. And release April 12th 2018. Which would be roughly 2 years after gtx 10 series came out.

Will we see gtx2080 mxm that will drop in our current P750TM1G laptops?

Or will they change the mxm size again?

I feel silly buying a expensive gtx1080 laptop right now, and gtx2080 is about to release.

I know there will be a refresh on my cpu, the 8600K. And I’m not to worried about my cpu anyways. But is it safe to say, Eurocom will offer mxm gtx2080 that will be a upgrade path for us

p750tm1g/ p775tm1g/ p870tm1g ?

 

They post such 'news' to make someone who actually knows come forward and break NDA...

 

Eurocom offers a trade in program.

Any Alienware, or msi gaming laptop. No matter how old. No matrer what hardware is in it. Eurocom will TAKE OFF 25% of your total purchase of any laptop.

No purchase amount LIMIT either. So if its a $2,000 or a $7,000 system you still get 25% off.

So, i found a old MX14 laying around that i paid $100 bucks for.

I can build a $3,250 X9C and after my trade in, its only about $2,400!

That is a $850 discount.

Im a student as well, and ill find out if they can stack rebates! So if i get the student discount, that is 35%. But im pretty sure they will only honor one rebate.

I LOVE EUROCOM! These guys offer the best options. And its only $500 to add a gtx1080. Most placed charge $650 or $850. So, its a much better deal all around!

 

Not that there is any competition for nvidia or the gtx1080. I had one in my desktop back since july of 2016. And its still plenty powerful for up to 3440x1440P.

I think there will be a refreshment, only with faster clock speeds like a 2ghz base clock, and a 2.4ghz boost or overclocking potential. And not a newer faster architecture.

 

It is supposed to be a 7 nm generation (from 16 nm Pascal), that would be awesome with more cuda cores even with the same architecture for laptops.

 

Final build everyone, this is alot of money for me. So ive been patient in carfully picking all my components. Ive seen these exceed 330 watt so i went for the bigger AC brick of 780 watt. So my system will charge from 0 to 100% while plugged in and pulling a full load.

The goal was to keep it under $2,500 USD. And build a laptop to be a beast for the next 3 years in school. I simply am over budget with an 8700K. But, i think a 4.8Ghz 8600K will really get some work done. And i play alot of Fallout 4 so going from DDR4 2400 to DDR4 3000 literally increases the fps by about 20-30%. And should help alleviate the gap. This memory may overclock to 3300+

Eurocom X4C 15.6" laptop Z370
Delidded 8600K i5
Unlocked bios
120Hz TN 1080P panel
G-Sync added
GTX1080 mxm 8gb
IC diamond 7 thermal paste GPU
Cool lab Liquidmetal on cpu
2x8gb ddr4 3000mhz memory
Windows 10 64bit home
250gb Samsung 960 evo pcie m.2
1tb hitachi travelstar 7.2k rpm hdd
Blutooth 5.0 W/ intel AC 9260 1.73 Gbps+
780 WATT A/C adapter USA plug

After trade in discount

$2,469

 

It's a nicely balanced setup, 330W would be exceeded if you intend to push things to the limit yes.

 

The firmware locks won't even allow it to exceed the default 330W though...that PSU also has an actual sustained 24h load rating of 351W and a peak power draw of 395W.

 

So, if im using the 330 watt, plugged in, with a dead battery under full load rendering 4k scene It would slowly charge the laptop overtime, possibly not at all, and drain the battery.

If im using the 780watt, plugged in, dead battery, under full load rendering 4K scene, it could still charge the battery and supply all the needed wattage?

Is this correct?

Ok, the 780 watt may be out. Might just get a extra battery, and the 330 watt.

I was thinking the 780 watt could charge it like its idling, but really the system is under load. Whereas the 330 watt could only sustain the charge while providing the power needed under load.

 

The board has a fixed total power draw limit of 256W. If it is exceeded it'll throttle the CPU until it's back within limits. The battery will always charge and is never used to support a too small of a PSU for additional power like it's done on e.g. MSI or Alienware etc systems.

 

Are you prema, as in the prema bios?

Ok, so the 780watt is completely useless unless i were running a larger dual gpu platform like the P870. Thats a $288 savings right there.

 

Yes he is the person who created the modified BIOS files for many notebooks.

 

I want squeeze every drop out of my laptop gtx1080, as my desktop gtx1080 was. It was just a beast.

Do you offer an alternative bios?

 

No, we include a base set of features suitable for most users such as memory clocks/timings and CPU frequency settings.

 

If you want a @Prema BIOS and a Clevo that has full, unfettered performance with no stupid throttling problems, the only way to get that is to buy one from a PremaMod Partner Shop and wait for it to be released for the latest model. (It takes considerable time and effort to develop and thoroughly test once a new machine in released.) If you buy something that is not a Clevo from a PremaMod Partner Shop you can pretty much count on the fact that is it going to be castrated and underperform, and never get fixed. Alienware, MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte, Acer, HP, Dell... stock Clevo/Sager... all of them suck because of cancer firmware (not to mention half-assed engineering). They all claim their products to " work as intended" which just goes to show how much they all suck at what they do.

 

Eurocom Sky X4C (i7-8700K, GTX 1080, Clevo P751TM1-G) Laptop Review
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Euroc...0-Clevo-P751TM1-G-Laptop-Review.281388.0.html

 

Yessssssss! The laptop of my dreams! Awesome! Just awesome! Dang, im ready to order.

 

So, if i get a gtx1080 in my X4C i cannot have G/sync at all? Or no gsync support with gtx1080 and vizgo 4k glossy panel together?

Just read the review. I thought the GPU/CPU temps were amazing! Especially during a realistic load.

The 4K glossy is kind of dissapointing, but im not getting that display anyways,

Im loving everything about this laptop. Especially with 25% off.

 

Are you aware that this Clevo product family (P7) has thermal management challenges? The P870 runs much cooler, but also costs more. I'm not trying to throw ice water on your fire, just curious if you already knew or if anyone already told you. If not, you might want to look into that and hear more from other owners of this product before pulling the trigger on one of them.

I ran my P870DM3 8700K at 5.0GHz with temps about 15°C cooler than this machine runs at 4.2GHz. See what @Dr. AMK has to say. He purchased my P750ZM (and earlier version of the P751TM-G - same cooling system design) and P870DM3.

 

Yes, but i just cannot afford a P870. I mean i could squeeze one in but, it would be 1080P/60hz Gsync and a gtx1070, and a 8600K. Which is no slouch, but i got spoiled on a desktop gtx1080.

I know running prime 95, and furmark combined is unrealistic. And not real world scenario.

This is my first deep pocket expense on a high end laptop, and getting out of building desktops for the first time in about 15 years. But, with mining getting out of control a laptop is just a better value.

I would like to build a laptop from eurocom and reliably run my programs, and games with it least 4.8ghz all core frequency, and 1,900+ mhz on the gpu?

I hope this could be possible. If not, then maybe i do need a P870.


Hell... what am i saying? Id love to run 5Ghz daily!

Is 5Ghz possible with an 8600k delidded and liquid metal on the ihs on a p751?

 

No, unfortunately, that is not going to be possible on this machine due to its lackluster cooling system. I liked my P750ZM quite a lot, as it looked nice and it was made well, but I cooled it with a portable air conditioner (seriously). If you want to do that moderate level of overclocking then you definitely need a P870. You can get it WITH 8700K AND a single 1080 with the SLI vapor chamber, which will keep one 1080 very, very cool.

 

But the for the smaller screen size which chasis will he prefer because X4C can accommodate two 2.5 inches Hard disk and gtx1080 etc. Is there any other model for 15 inch screen size and having space for 2.5 inch hard disk and with 8700K and gtx 1080


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I think maybe I was not clear enough. I do not hate this product line, but it does have a serious defect that anyone shopping for a new system deserves to know before spending their hard-earned money on one of them. The P7 family of laptops (both 15 and 17 inch) has a lot going for it. The one very serious flaw is its crappy cooling system. The latest 17-inch P7 seems to be better than it ever has been with discrete CPU and GPU heat sinks and a GPU vapor chamber. That is not available on the 15-inch. The poorly engineered cooling system and high temperatures cancels out almost all of the other really great things about it.

 

It depends on what you are after, if you want something more powerful with lots of storage and are looking to work in the 65-95W power range where you will still get a significant boost over the mobile variants then it's a good choice.

 

Well, what about the P775/X7C? It has seperate heat pipes. My absolute max budget is $2,500. Ive gotta stay with the p751tm1, or p775tm1.

My wife doesnt get why a laptop should cost so much as it is. The, " its for school babe" has surprisingly gotten my budget this high! Haha

Im using there trade in discount. So i can realistically build a laptop around $3,100 or so. The only thing i really require is,

Gtx1080
Gsync 1080p or 1440p, unless it has 100% rgb and 4k and non g sync is ok.
Unlocked bios
Delidded

ive got m.2 drives to install myself. A simple mechanical drive is fine.

 

But most of the vendors stop providing DVD rom slot otherwise earlier we can put 2.5 inc Hard disk


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You could save money on that 'unlocked bios' as it does nothing performance wise, which stock BIOS, Throttlestop, XTU or CCC won't already do for you. Not sure if they are charging anything extra for that delidd, but a razor blade, liquid metal paste and some super glue do the same trick. Screen is really a personal choice but in general 120Hz WQHD ('3K') for gaming and 4K 100% Adobe RGB for photo/video work...

 

Yes, the P775TM1 would be a better choice because of its better cooling system.

Wives never get it. I know what you are facing as far as opposition here. A bunch of us are in the same boat there, LOL. She should compare the cost of a $5000 laptop to a boat or hot rod hobby if she wants to know what expensive really looks like. The most important thing in your life is her, so make sure she always knows that. To make her happy, leverage the power of depreciation and buy a nice (like new) P870DM3 used from a member of this forum. Look in the marketplace thread. Spend part of the savings on her.

If a person is willing to put up with a machine that overheats like a son of a female canine to get "what they are after" more power to them. I doubt there are many that are willing to make such a compromise and I suspect more than a few would have made a different choice had they known what they were getting into. The very least we can do is offer full disclosure about a product's engineering defects. I spoke about it often while I owned mine. It didn't make me hate it, but it did cripple it and severely limited what I could do with it when it wasn't handy to use it sitting on top of a portable 10,000 BTU air conditioner.

 

When I delidded my 6600k it was so easy, i just razored the IHS right off. And painted liquid metal on the die, lapped the IHS, and i used a white toilet silicone to put the ihs back on lol. Everyone laughed at me, but hey! That 6600k would run at 5.12ghz Daily stable! Which is a incredible for a skylake cpu. They were not laughing so much after that. I bought it non delidded from silicone lottery as a 4.8 model

Eurocom wants $120 for a unlocked bios, and a delidded cpu. So i figured it wasnt a bad deal.

I never used xtu much. I always used the bios, and never worried with a startup program to apply my overclocks. Unless its the gpu like msi after burner or something. I like to apply my 100% stable cpu, memory overclocks and there saved without a program.

 

Im going to browse used. But, I might just end up with a p775, or p751. Hard to find p870 with 8th gen used.

 

Stock BIOS already has those basic clocks/voltage options these days... there isn't much of OCing without also removing the firmware power limiters.

 

I'm getting temps always below 63ºC on Witcher 3 on both GPU and CPU (with -175mV on CPU and 1756 Mhz 800mV on GPU and automatic fans). I know it can deliver way more power, but it's a really nice sweet spot for a steady 60 fps in a demanding game considering its a 15,6 inch laptop with 3,4 kg.

 

Guys do you people use these laptop for normal work like making report on word and excel and also do you put on your lap to watching movies or doing any office work on the bed.


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I play league of legends in my lap, temps are below 60º and fans seems to be out or extremely low, so any of the other tasks you mention requiere even less power.