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    *** Official Clevo W110ER / Sager NP6110 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Ryan, Apr 7, 2012.

  1. Coolaidstyle

    Coolaidstyle Notebook Consultant

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    False. When the guy from Mythologic was talking about it, he expressly stated that it was the same panel simply with a matte finish. It should have slightly poorer color than the glossy indoors because of the finish, but better color and visibility outdoors.

    There are unfortunately no panels with a higher gamut than 45% yet :(
     
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    Ha, you can't tell me "false". Maybe they've been inconsistent about their statements regarding the panel, but you can't tell me I misheard what I was told in person. :rolleyes: Anyway, thanks for the info.
     
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    mySN.de

    Don't think these guys have it on their online configuration but email them
    ([email protected]), they might be able to sort something out.

    Oh and they got the i7-3612QM
     
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    Thanks - looks like a pretty positive review overall. Did their review unit have a different CPU than the ones currently being offerred via Sager and Myth? Just curious as I don't remember seeing that one before anywhere else, or I just missed it.
     
  6. Coolaidstyle

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    If you were told in person you definitely have more info than I do. I would definitely hold out hope for a higher gamut matte screen!

    Just trying to help :)
     
  7. R3d

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    Yeah it's a step up from the 3610qm being offered from most resellers. But it shouldn't really matter as the difference is <10% performance wise between the two CPUs.
     
  8. mythlogic

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    Yea the matte screen has the same color gamut as the glossy, the angles are a bit better because of the non-glare
     
  9. Coolaidstyle

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    Maxed Mass Efrect 3 with 60 FPS on an 11.6" notebook? Yes please!
     
  10. bazald

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    Thanks for the clarification.
     
  11. robomasterxp

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    hmm, the review didn't complain about the heat much, and the battery life was like 4h10'. That was the i7 3720m's stats. I wonder because the i7 3610 is slightly slower, doesn't it mean that the heat will be less and the battery will be longer? :rolleyes:
     
  12. R3d

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    The review didn't have CPU or GPU temps, but I guess the temperature on the casing of the laptop is fine.

    There shouldn't be a noticeable difference in temps or battery life between the 3720 and 3610, since they're like 200mhz off from each other.
     
  13. gooface

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    Well looks like I'm super lucky, mine is out for delivery today when it was scheduled for tomorrow! Will post pics and info when it arrives, can't be much longer.

    Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    RAM actually came with the system. I ordered without it but apparently since I had a rush put on it, they built with it anyhow. :)
     
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    I believe its a keeper. I do like the form factor, personally would prefer a 13" but it doesn't exist. If we can adjust the voltage, we should easily be able to drop temps 5C as well as add up to 30 minutes of battery life.

    Will be keeping an eye on the dual core Ivy though. I'm certain a dual core Ivy would be more than adequate for any games, and hopefully run cooler and consume less power. Some users ordered theirs with a Sandy Bridge dual core. Curious to see how those fare as they will likely be a good indicator of how well the dual core Ivy's will perform.
     
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    Will my i7 3820QM with 8MB cache @ 2.7GHz have same battery life as you wingnut?

    Intel homepage rates them both @ 45W.
     
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    The 3820QM will most likely draw more power and generate more heat. The 45W is just the maximum thermal envelope.
     
  21. Coolaidstyle

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    Stellar review! Very thorough and unbiased. Your use of charts and graphs was great and paired with the NBR review, I am confident that I made the right decision by ordering one. Thank you!
     
  22. HaveFallen

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    Thank you for the review! I was thinking I'd get buyer's remorse or something!

    Also, mine comes in today! Can, not... Wait!
     
  23. Ashenor

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    How do you think just a pure stock one will run for games like D3 and Tera. I was going to upgrade one but leaving some money set aside for when they announce pricing on the GTX 670's this week, upgrading my PC from a 5850 to one.

    That said since i can get a base unit from a online retailer for $834 shipped with the i5, stock paste, Win 7 home 64, do you think i will have buyers remorse for not upgrading it more? I will only be playing games on it.

    Thanks
     
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    @ Ashenor

    For D3 the i5 will suffice. Momentarily only games such as BF3 with the FrostBite2 engine support quad CPUs effectivly. though future engines will surely be more and more programmed to use quad CPUs better. Keep in mind that currently the price difference with the SB i5 -> IVB i7 is $100, if you choose to upgrade the CPU in the future you'll pay ALOT more for it. But for current games the i5 will do just as good, the graphics card is ALOT more important.
     
  25. Ashenor

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    Thanks for the reply, i mainly play MMO's and hack and slash games, if i am playing a FPS its normally on a desktop more then likely.

    Hmm though choice.
     
  26. Coolaidstyle

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    It sounds like you already have a capable gaming machine. Do you plan on playing tons of games on the go? If not or to a lesser extent, I would urge you against it. This is by far the best gaming ultraportable on the market, but it doesn't do stellarly at being a gaming rig or ultraportable by itself. The package is what makes it great. If you already have a gaming tower, then perhaps you could be looking at something like a Folio 13 or even an earlier revision of the m11x if you do like to game a bit on the go.

    Just my 2 cents, hope it helps :)
     
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    Got mine today, installing Windows right now. I'm a little concerned by how the HDD is mounted, does anyone have a similar concern?
     
  28. Ashenor

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    Thanks for the reply, i do have a nice desktop gaming system. I would be using this mainly 3 or 4 times a week when i goto my GF's and i am stuck there with nothing to do and she fails asleep at 10 or so hah. Other then that i could she using it to play some D3 or Tera or others casually while on the couch at home and watching tv. Probably would not use it to surf the web much at home since i have my desktop/iPad 3.

    Its not something i really need, but would be nice.
     
  29. Azeroth

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    I haven't gotten mine yet, but am curious - would you mind elaborating on what exactly you are concerned about?
     
  30. drfish

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    It mounts to a small piece of metal with a sheet of plastic on it and then it only connects to the laptop itself with one screw. Its just kind of suspended there and is springy... :confused:
     
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    There should be a feature on the lower panel that pushes against the hard drive when the lower panel is installed.
     
  32. Suzaku6

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    I think you're just panicking, open up any major laptop brand and you will find similar if not equal HDD mounting. If the HDD is plugged into the SATA connector on one side and secured with a screw on the other side, I do not see what could go wrong.

    Keep in mind that a 2,5" HDD is very light (SSDs are even lighter) and it doesn't need screws attached to each corner to secure it at all ;) . Unless your manufacturer did something wrong I can see nothing wrong at the mounting method after seeing the unpacking/opening video on YouTube.
     
  33. HTWingNut

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    See the indentation on the foam? And then the feature on the back panel. That holds it snugly in place. No worries unless you run around with the back panel off.

    [​IMG]
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  34. Coolaidstyle

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    Besides, with a laptop this small, there ain't much wiggle room ;)
     
  35. drfish

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    I guess maybe I need to add a spacer under my SSD? I have the Samsung 830 in there and it is thinner than other SSDs. It does not touch the "bottom" of the HD area so it has a lot of room to move. I'll take a picture or maybe video after these infernal Windows updates are finally finished installing.

    Love this thing so far otherwise. :D
     
  36. HTWingNut

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    Doesn't the 830 come with a spacer? Intel laptops are 7mm, but come with a spacer ring attached on one side.
     
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    Mine did not. Retail package. :confused:

    Not a big deal, I'll just find some adhesive felt pads or something if I don't like it.

    BTW, only real complaint so far is the screen. The brightness/image quality is actually quite nice and the glossy is fine, however I can really see the "grid" you mentioned, especially on solid light colored backgrounds. Not enough to drive me nuts but I'd prefer not to see it at all.

    I'm really happy that I can use it on my lap without blocking the intake. If the intake was on the other side I would not be able to rest it on my right leg. Also, I can't believe how much smaller/lighter this thing is compared to my old Asus F9Dc - even though the screen is only .5" smaller.

    This thing is just a beast. I can run Minecraft with the unbelievable shaders mods at 30fps! :D
     
  38. HTWingNut

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    Hmm. Seems that at loads over 90W even with the 120W PSU, the machine won't charge. I guess the advantage is that you can actually go OVER 90W if needed, but Prema took a peek at the BIOS and saw the 90W limit in there.

    I am not sure if that limit can be changed, and if it risks frying the hardware or not though.
     
  39. LaptopUserExtreme

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    Hmm. Will you charge faster with the 120W when under the same load as compared to the 90W?
     
  40. HTWingNut

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    I doubt it, probably regulated. Plus you don't want it to charge too quickly. It actually charges pretty fast to 90% then slows down considerably.
     
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    :( Then there really isn't much of a point to getting a 120W adapter then is there >.< It's a brick in size and mass... I really don't want to be carrying it around if I don't have to.

    I mean, even in the current configuration, you really have to push the machine to exceed 90W consumption, right? From your review, I can see that even with Battlefield 3 at max, you were consuming 89W. And most of the time I won't be pushing it that hard.... unless maybe future games and programs will utilize the power a bit more... but I doubt it. Hmm.
     
  42. HTWingNut

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    We'll see if that limit can be fixed. If it can't be changed, I agree, 90W is more than adequate. The only advantage is that you won't be peaking the power supply all the time which can shorten its life by quite a bit if you do run it for long periods near peak power rating.

    To be honest, I'd rather have a 65W just so I can use the laptop on the go for basic work. Then again, I'd be restricted in gaming if I decided to.
     
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    This will undoubtedly be useful for all of those wishing to do their own upgrades.

    <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/zW3g5jjFgug?version=3&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/zW3g5jjFgug?version=3&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width='560' height="315" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>

    Perhaps a mod could put this video somewhere it can be easily found?
     
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  44. HaveFallen

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    Finally received my laptop! I can say I'm a proud owner now... Man, this thing is tinier than I thought, but I love it!

    Too bad I can't touch it for a couple of days, what a shame. Damn work...
     
  45. R3d

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    Thanks for the informative video. +rep
     
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  46. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Changing that limit should be no problem and my best guess is that it is there to ease the load on the PSU ones its reaching its 90W limit and prevent people from using something on a level of an Extreme CPU in there (they work).
    Since Sager decided to sell these things with a 120W PSU they would have to flash a different BIOS to different configurations, which is to much for a Seller of that size.

    If you want HT I make you a custom BIOS with a limit of your own choice.
     
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    Does this offer only stand for HT? How about me? or the rest of us?
     
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    What do you mean by 'which is to much for a Seller of that size' ??

    what is too much, the flashing or the wattage. Im confused.

    please explain.
     
  49. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    No its only for HT....ha ha ha ;)

    Let us test it first and if it turns out fine (safe) we can maybe just make a 120W BIOS for the 120W PSU people.

    Flashing a different BIOS according to the CPU ordered/ PSU shipped...
     
  50. FNAKFHE

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    I'm okay with that,

    HT, come on hurry up and flash your BIOS with this update.

    I wanna push my i7 so i melt solder on the motherboard!
     
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