*** Official Clevo W110ER / Sager NP6110 Owner's Lounge ***

Does the Witcher 2 have a demo or a benchmark setting? How about Maffia II? Neither are games I've played.

 

So far I'm loving it. Even with the glossy screen. It's just so easy to carry around. I could never go back to 15' laptops. I'd rather just get something like this and a desktop if needed.

 

Does anyone have hinge flex/wobble? Like the notebook check review mentioned? Or was that just a one off incident?

 

Felt the same way after trying the M11x R1 two years ago. I've been dreading having to switch to a 14-15.6" laptop after the m11x was discontinued. Good timing on the part of Clevo.

 

I have seen too much trouble created by people giving out ETAs and then later on having to brake them (for good reasons).
So I won't promise a date, but we are getting closer. You could bookmark the link in my sig.

 

How about the case ? it is rubber touch areas like the PN9150 ?

no one can made a youtube video shoing it working with windows, shoing app open and scrool a pdf text with images to show the usual speed of this machine ? showing theur leds and any blabla bla just for apreciation until my arrive ehhehehe

Tkz,

 

I don't believe it is. You can take a look at some photos and the review courtesy of HTWingNut here http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo-reviews-owners-lounges/660753-htwingnuts-sager-np6110-clevo-w110er-first-look-review.html

 

I have tried GTA IV and it was playable with optimal graphic settings. That was only fast run what I did but it still works I have also Mafia II but not installed to this lappy.

 

thankyou for talk about the game

Now I need pacience to wait until I receive my note heheheh

BR

 

Mine doesn't wobble at all. Very rigid hinge.

 

Probably asked already by someone, but does taking the i7-3612QM (35W instead of 45W) give a tad more battery power?

 

Not a noticeable amount, no.

 

How does the fan sound at full load while playing an intensive game? Is it as loud as the R3? Any fears that the internals will melt down after many hours of heavy use?

 

It's seeming that even a Sandy Bridge dual core is the way to go. HD 4000 is gimped on battery anyhow, and was one of the bigger selling points of Ivy Bridge, so no real advantage or possibility to use it on battery for anything more than basic games.

Makes me want to return my NP6110, buy a full size 15" Ivy Bridge (NP9150), and then get an 11-12" Trinity when it comes out.

 

That's interesting you say that...so based on your last comment, do you recommend sticking with the M11x R3 for now and hopefully Alienware comes out with a powerful ultra portable? Realistically, would I really notice the graphic and performance advantages even though the Sager has the same crappy screen as the R3 at the same resolution?

 

So your saying, one should buy the W110ER/NP6110 with a Sandy Bridge Dual Core because of heat/battery life?

But what about the Ivy Bridge Dual Core, wont they be released soon? Do you think its worth getting a Sandy Bridge Dualcore over a IVB one?

 

That's what I am wondering too because I already have a dual core sandy bridge in my R3, so what's the point for me to upgrade?

 

Sorry to jump in, but wanted to help

The 650M in such a machine is the reason to upgrade! That's how I see it..

 

I'm not saying that since I don't know actual heat and battery life of Sandy Bridge dual core. But my point is that Sandy Bridge is a viable option of HD 4000 isn't of interest for you. My main interest in HD 4000 was ability to game on battery. But since that's gimped on battery, there's really little about it that interests me. I do like a quad core, but if it's at the sacrifice of significant power consumption then forget it. I still think there's hope for improving that though. I would personally wait for Ivy Bridge dual core if I could, but I don't think anyone would be severely disappointed with Sandy Bridge either. Especially considering there is an upgrade to Ivy Bridge, and even quad core later.

If you have an M11x R3 IMHO I'd stick with it. I don't think the 540m to 650m warrants a significant enough upgrade if you run at stock 1366x768 resolution, unless it doesn't manage the games you play well enough. A dual core Ivy Bridge on the other hand would be a significant step up from the 17W Sandy, and would help with CPU demanding games like BF3. I realize that if I fix CPU at 1200MHz (setting min/max CPU performance to 0% in power options on 'balanced' mode), BF3 is CPU limited, surprisingly. Framerates go down compared to when I let it run full speed.

 

since you guys are on the subject...

im contemplating getting this with the SB 2450m instead of waiting for the Ivy Bridge counterparts. Part of the reason is because im currently without a laptop, and the other part is due to budget constraints (ims straining the limit of what i can afford with the laptop in the first place, and id rather put the money into an SSD for example).

so my question is this: What could i really expect by waiting for the IB i5's?

as i understand, the 2450m is not going to be a bottle neck for the 650m as is (for gaming). Which means the speculative 5-10% performance increase afforded by IB would be a nice perk, but hardly a nececity..

so besides the (once again speculative) lower power consumption, would there be any other reason to wait?

does IB run better with kepler or anthing?

i know any opinions on the matter would be educated guessing for the most part, but im curious what your thoughts are

thanks

 

ht - just gave you a rep! I'm hoping Alienware comes out with an ivy bridge ultra in nebula red! That way my wife won't know I bought another laptop!

 

There's a possibility of improved battery life. And HD 4000 gets a significant bump, but as already stated, since it is gimped on battery anyhow, it really is not of significance.

Yeah, lol. That's always a good way to upgrade on the sly. Buy an identical or close to identical chassis, lol.

 

yo Prema, any chance of enabling IDE for drive management? there was some glitch on the desktop Win 7 where it would take like a week to restore an image file from a backup SATA HDD in AHCI mode even with an SSD.
Microsoft recommended to switch to IDE mode where it would then take only 45 minutes. I know we don't have an extra HDD slot but i don't know if this glitch affects restoring Windows Images from an external HDD via USB3

 

DONE, if it wasn't already there by default (which i think it is) it is now!

 

No one think in maybe the nVidia driver is not Ok, and becouse this the optmus not is working properly, and becouse this the batery use is less than a expected for a 11.6" notebook ?

I think it is the way.


Edit,

Have a chance in this model for a MOD to the mSATA work in it ? have a space of the other mPCI in mainboard ?

[]'s

 

Myth was so kind to test mSata, even though all manuals clearly state it doesn`t...and i really doesn`t.

 

I don't. If I push back on the screen without holding down the base the laptop will just tip backwards instead of inclining more. Does it wobble if I shake it? Yes, but it doesn't wobble when my wife walks with it open nor does it wobble when I type violently.

 

Ok, just played like 2 hours of BF3 (64p Caspian). Here are the temps.

Unfortunately, turbo is disabled even for the i5's apparently so the CPU is at it's limit. It wasn't really a constant problem per se because I was 40fps+ (high textures, medium post aa, everything else low/off) nearly all the time, but sometimes it would spike and dip to the 10s. Though I'm still trying to figure it out as it seemed to go away in my last couple games. I'm pretty impressed with the fan though, it got audibly loud, but it never went crazy loud like in my dv6z.

I also took a pic of the Sager side by side the HP yesterday but I forgot to post it. It's hard to tell from the picture, but the HP display is slightly warmer and more saturated. I've also noticed a bit of the screen door effect with the NP6110 display, even though the dpi is about the same as the display in the HP.

I'll try OCing soon, to see how high I can get the vram.

edit: also, anybody have trouble downloading the new NV drivers off the Sager website? It downloads at a crawling 50KBps and it gets interrupted all the time so I can't even finish the DL.

 

Temps are hot !! shouldn't this run cooler ?

 

Well, that's how hot it gets so I guess not. And that's with turbo disabled too. It'll probably be even hotter if turbo was on. I have the stock paste though, so temps might be slightly higher than with ICD.

 

Great to know, thanks for the picture mate.

 

Wow, that is HOT!

Also, the game must just be CPU limited because even on default high settings at 1366x768 I'm getting 65-70FPS. Turn off AA and turn off BF3 DXDeferred setting and it's even higher. Not sure if vRAM will help much considering your CPU might be holding you back especially since it can't turbo.

 

About the size of this notebook, 60c idle and 90c full not is bad temps. it not have space for air flux. it is the price of a 11,6" notebook with 15" power.

the CPU and GPU is under the tolerable secure intel and nvidia specifications.


The only for note is if the case go hot or not in the areas where you put your hand.

if the keyboard and palmhest is acetable, it is ok.

BR

 

Yeah, I was mainly thinking of other games. I wish turbo wasn't disabled... That's like 20% CPU perf gone right there.

 

Yeah, I guess with the "slower" CPU's turbo disabled can be an issue. Although still interested in battery life with the dual core.

 

hmm u guys have strange temperaturs in bf3. I havent seen my passing higher than 82C playing on 64p karkand. i7 3610qm high performance

 

I'll get on that soon. Just want to play around with it a little more.

 

Play to your heart's content. I understand entirely! I am now getting about 82C with BF3 with it propped up.

 

I'm thinking about picking up a 15.6" Sager now too. I'm told it's a simple process to access the 6110's CPU/GPU to reapply paste, and I"m just wondering if the construction is the same for the larger Sagers as well. Anyone with other Sager laptops want to chime in? Thanks

 

Alright, 30 minutes on battery so far and it's at 89%. I've been browsing the web and downloading games off steam. No flash content so far except maybe for some ads in some websites.

I think I figured out the stuttering in BF3. Set the "render ahead" option to 1 (from 3) and it seemed to go away. Also managed to get the temps down by 2c by moving the comp downstairs. My room was very warm (~85f) and the room downstairs was about 70f.

Also, does the fan ever turn off? Even when it's idle it still seems to be on.

 

It's just as easy yes

 

Figured as much. Thanks for confirming.

 

This is my first Sager/Clevo. Used Apple and Dell before this. Build quality is better than any dell including the corporate laptops. Keyboard isn't as good though but I prefer the Microsoft Natural Keyboard. Performance is night and day better than a Dell using the i7 quad core. At least any Company/Personal dell I've used. Screen is not as good as an Apple. Will say that. But at least the hardware is cutting edge. Hinges look hard core industrial. Definitely Clevo went with function over style when they designed this laptop.

 

Exactly what I'm looking for. Function over form. I'm not looking for something pretty. I'll primarily hook mine up to a desktop monitor/keyboard/mouse at home, so the lcd isn't so important to me. The battery life really is a bit of a drag though.

 

my only main complaint about this laptop is that it has terrible battery life. Unless i'm doing something wrong, I really can't last off of battery for very long, and it's becoming an issue. what have other ppl done to fix this?

 

You could try a portable battery backup system like this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-XP8000-Universal-Adapter-External/dp/B0029U2WZU

 

Still your temps seem higher than normal, when gaming or running benches the CPU/GPU on mine hover around the very low 80's, no cooler, not even propped up in he back just flat on a table.
On idle the fan is barely noticeable it maybe always on but I can only hear it with my ear close to the vent.
Seems like you might have to repaste your CPU and GPU. Using ICD7 myself.

 

If I'm going to pay $90 for a bulky accessory that can only give me another 1-2 hours, I'd much rather just buy an additional battery.

That said, I hope a future bios or driver update will improve upon the problems with battery life.

 

You're ignoring an obvious difference in terms of continuous usage. You have to power down to swap batteries--not so with the pack. Both are bulky, neither side has the advantage. And does a spare battery double as a USB/device charger?

You may not fancy the idea, but it does provide several additional hours of uninterrupted use.

 

You're right - but I can hibernate instead of powering down, right? I don't think batteries need to be connected for hibernating... but I agree, it does have its use, and I'd consider it if I had the cash to spare.