*** Official Clevo W110ER / Sager NP6110 Owner's Lounge ***

You should be able to use boost by default and can overclock with MSI Afterburner or nvidia inspector or any number of overclock utilities.

 

i could use msi afterburner but u cant adjust the voltage but someone did successfully overclocked the core to 1ghz with a modded driver on another thread

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...gt650m-ddr3-vs-gddr5-difference-tested-8.html

 

The wireless drivers for the intel wireless cards are built in. Zero problems with the wireless in 12.04 Ubuntu x64. For the 4000 chipset you have to install bumblebee. It covers the nvidia gpu plus all the chipset support for power management and other stuff.

 

They are built in, yes, but in Gentoo they don't work without grabbing additional firmware. At least as of 3.2.*. I have yet to test wireless on this new kernel, but I'm sure I'll be more successful than before---even after downloading the 6230 ucode I was able to connect and get an IP but couldn't send or receive any packets. Fun project.

 

Mine runs stable @1085Mhz (which is the highest MSI afterburner will OC GPU this card) and memory @1110Mhz. Using the 302.59 drivers from laptopvideo2go.

 

It will not work...


BUT, after this bios is released I plan on porting it...

 

Is there anyway to disable multi-touch? It's to bad for me to really feel comfortable using, plus some of the gestures are really annoying.

 

RivaTuner lets you overclock higher without any hassle, but do it gradually as slipping it into maximum OC-mode might crash the card or do something worse... anyways, here you go: RivaTuner - Guru3D.com enjoy

 

I think MSI Afterburner use the RivaTuner engine.

 

It does, and it doesn't let you overclock higher for safety issues, as far as I am aware.. but RivaTuner lets you overclock slightly more, works very well if you want to benchmark or something...

 

Configure it on synaptics driver.

BR

 

Anybody having problems with the power button? It's not registering presses very well for me. Takes quite a few presses to actually get the notebook to turn on.

Also, HTWingNut, which websites did you use for your browser battery life? And what setting was the screen on?

 

Ive used rivatuner before and I like msi afterburner a lot better. Even if it does allow a higher oc. I like the monitoring that msi afterburner has.

 

This is typical of Clevo machines, in my experience. The power buttons require a decent amount of force to actually register a press. On the flipside, they have the most solidly built power boards I've encountered (I service laptops at work, including Clevo, MSI, Compal, and the big name brands as well).

 

Can you make any comment as to the quality of the capacitors used on their mobo's? Japanese, or the cheap Chinese stuff?

Edit: I just looked at internal pics of the W110ER and it looks like they are using Nichicon and Fujitsu solid Japanese capacitors, but I'm not exactly an expert and I can't really see them in details, maybe you could confirm for me if these are used on other Clevo models?

 

Cpt. Derrek how did you get the 302.59 drivers to work on your laptop cause' when I try to install them it says it can't find compatible hardware...

 

You need to download the driver then once you extract the file download the modded inf file and them copy and replace the inf file in the driver root folder. It should install once the inf file is replaced

 

Hi,

New, happy, owner of MythLogic Chaos 1212. Wow, I have 177 forum pages to weed thru, lots of good stuff.

Somewhere around page 70ish, some one asked about linux + w110er. Well I got a no OS rig and had Fedora 17 rc4 x64 up and running within a few hours of receipt. Little bit of bumpy ride, and still a few things to shake out; but I am using it and it works well.

Any other linux peeps out there? Wouldn't mind sharing tips, how to's and such with others....

My rig is:
i7-3612qm
16gb ram
matte screen
128g crucial ssd
...and the rest of the stuff...

ttfn...

 

that seems like a good overclock isnt the core well over the 660m. is there any way to get the memory to the 660ms 2000mhz or is that maxed

 

No. That'd be like a 122% overclock. The best we can hope for is 20%-30%. I only got 100mhz out of my chip, which is like 11%.

 

i didnt realize it was a 120% overclock i just thought because they were the same chip essentially u could overclock the 650m to 660m speeds

 

Nah that was the highest stable memory speed. Above that it starts to artifact. you might be able to a bit more out of the gpu though.

 

just a hunch but because gddr5 is double date rate does that double Cpt.Derreks overclock of 1110mhz to 2220mhz or am i wrong

 

The 660m uses gddr5 and the 650m in the NP6110 uses gddr3. gddr5 offers much more bandwidth per clock than gddr3.

The 660m and 650m have the same core, but they have different memory.

Yeah the ddr vram at 1110mhz will have an effective clock of 2220mhz of non ddr vram, but using the same logic the 660m with it's vram clocked at 2000mhz will have an effective clock of 4000mhz. Either way the 660m has much higher memory bandwidth.

 

wow ive been looking at the np6165 but ive been asking my questions in the np6110 thread the np6165 has gddr5 and the np6110 has gddr3 i didn't put 2 and 2 together my bad.

do u think the 650m in the np6165 could be overclocked to match the 660m?

 

I wouldn't call myself an expert either. But yes, the Clevo systems I've worked on have all used Japanese capacitors and high quality MOSFETs, chokes, etc. Very few dead Clevo mobos have come my way. It's all subjective, of course, but I've never known them to use cheap parts.

 

Excellent, only thing I was worried about with Clevo is mobo quality, it's comforting to know they are using high quality components.

 

just got a w110er from Metabox AUS
Service was fantastic and this puppy is covered for 3 years warranty for a measly extra $60
Best part of all, the Metabox depot is like 2 suburbs from my place, might pay them a visit to swap out the 3610m for a dualcore ivy when it comes out....

Impressions
Great build quality, solid parts, no wobbly bits
keyboard feels nice
rubber finish is divine, easy to grip machine in one hand
GLoss Screen isn't actually that bad once gamma and RGB are calibrated, still cant match my IPS desktop screen though

Proc gets pretty hot 75-80s under load (BF3)
GPU about the same

Optimus is pretty seamless no stutter or anything

currently running 302.59 NVIDIA drivers

Intel 320 120gb boots Windows 7 in like 15 seconds from the power button press to a fully useable desktop

overall quite happy, PS i came from a HP DV6-1045ee

 

Could you please elaborate how to calibrate the gamma and RGB for the W110ER's glossy screen?

 

its best done if you have a calibrated IPS screen to compare to but basically Windows 7 has colour calibration built in

You follow the settings and instructions

Gamma can be tricky but i think you need to slide the bar to almost the bottom end for the circles to fade

Contrast cant be altered and I didn't mess with the RGB but i guess its monitor dependent
At the RGB section, you basically fiddle with the RGB bars until your whites no longer have a tinge, this is the part where you need an IPS screen to compare to.

I'm figuring out a way to export my colour settings so i can upload for everyone

PS does anyone know the benefits of the 1.0.3 BIOS? i have the 1.0.2

 

BIOS 03 has PXE and Optimus as well as fan tables & CPU microcodes updated.

 

hey !

i need help please ! i just installed a new CPU(i7 3520M-QS) but when i power on the machine, the lights stays on for a while, and maybe after 1 min or so the fan starts to spin and the clevo powers off...weird! any idea?

My bad, my first time changing cpu on a laptop....problem solved

 

all right i'm in the bios:
bios version 1.00.01
EC : 1.00.02

 

So how is the 3520? I know it's QS but i never heard about it before.
What are the clocks 1 core, dual core and Turbo?
How are temps?

 

I7 3520M Dual Core 4 threads 2.9, 3.4, 3.6 GHz
i'll report temps soon

 

Maybe this has beeb elaborated on already, but i am curious about the heat output of the 2450m vs the 3610qm. On a small form factor it seems this could make.a sizable difference and of course save battery. If the difference in heat and battery really doesnt exist i should just get the 3610qm.

 

I think the fact most games are dual threaded and the 3520 has a much more attractive 2.9ghz guaranteed clock means that this CPU is superior for gaming and general purpose work. Plus the thermal output should be theoretically slightly lower. I have experienced horrific heat with the 3610m which i don't think will be solved with an unlocked Turbo since it might just throttle, might pick me up one of them ES chips if the heat isn't too bad

 

Call me a scrub, but I dont actually know how to check my BIOS version. Whats the procedure?

Edit: According to a system information utility, my BIOS date is 4/26/12 and versiosn 4.06.05 (by American Megatrends) Still dont know how to interpret that...

 

Hey Prema, How would you backup the BIOS and then flash the 1.0.3 BIOS? do you just paste the 1.0.3 on to a bootable FAT32 USB and then boot from there?

 

About the 3520M, well, with original BIOS, my idle temps are pretty hot , i used HeGrease compound but maybe i applied the wrong method and quantity...

So far temps at idle are about 66 degrees and i noticed the ratio is jumping from 1200 to 3600 erratically...

What's the best method to apply thermal paste, and how to fix the frequency jumps ? Thanks

 

IC diamond is better because the thickness is not so critical, almost all of the laptop resellers use it standard.
I find a credit card is good for spreading the paste quite thinly, to place a line along one of the long ends of the die and spread to the other side in one stroke.

NB this doesnt work with IC diamond. you place a line in the centre of the die parallel to the long side and just smoosh the cooler on.

I think the jumps are normal. IB and SB are designed to clock down to 1200mhz when not heavily loaded, it probably clocked to 3600 when a single thread was running and when the job was finished it went back down. I don't think you can prevent the downclocking to 1200mhz unlike on the desktop where you can disable EIST which is responsible.

 

For some reason idle temps are lower on quad cores i get 37-47°C depending on the cores (0-3) with my core i7 2720qm ES while i get 55-60°C with dual cores. I tried core i3 2310M and pentium B960 in my Clevo W170ER. Same for both. Again idle temps, fan off.

Maybe it's because the die is larger on quad cores for same idle power so more contact with the heatsink and heat is better dissipated.

I always prefer quad cores for idle temps and low workloads. It depends on how the bios manage the fan on each notebook but basically with a quad core, the fan stays off more often if not forever for basic stuff.

 

Case and point that something is not quite right with the battery life:

ASUS B23E Conclusion

That is the review for the Asus B23E, a 12.5" laptop running an Intel Core i7-2620M (35W), 4 GB of RAM and a mechanical hard drive. AND it has a 3 cell battery! It's battery life on their test is almost an hour longer than the w110er, and it has a battery HALF the size of the W110ER with the 3612qm rated at a similar 35W.

 

The one difference is that it does not have a dedicated GPU. This would lead me to believe that the GT 650m is the culprit. It's some Optimus sorcery!

 

Press F2 while booting to ge to the BIOS menu.

For backup:


afuwin64.rar

For flashing create a bootable flash drive and run the step1 & after reboot step2 bat.

 

Here are the idle temps, room at 26C, light web browsing

 

A bit hot, then again you are running at 2.9~ whereas they are running 2.3 on the quads.

What I really want to know is how that dual fares in gaming and battery life vs the quads

Would you have time to run a few benches?

 

No comparisons of heat and battery between i5 2450m and i7 3610QM?

 

most games circa 2010 and older tend to be both CPU demanding and/or dual or single threaded. E.g. SC2 which still uses the CPU intensive DX9 API so it will run better on a fast dualcore. The game is very CPU bound especially on the custom maps.
Games like BF3 and later tend to be multithreaded so its not such a big deal. I expect to see a perf difference in RTS games that have only been dual thread coded. Therefore since Turbo is disabled, we lose the benefit of having 2.6-2.7ghz cores whereas the 3520m has 2.9ghz guaranteed

 

This is interesting.....seems like IVB draws more power at idle/min by looking at the CPU Package/IA Cores Power data. This would explain why the temp is on the hot side.

Below is the data from my i5-2520m

http://i49.tinypic.com/35lbukk.jpg