*** Official Clevo W110ER / Sager NP6110 Owner's Lounge ***

What do you mean "its what my laptop is at currently with Prema's mod"? I don't believe the TDP setting does anything, and if it did, not likely unless you had a 55W TDP CPU.

 

Speaking of the BIOS mod. I have troubling news. Since I have installed it I have had 3 BSOD's. 1 while booting up and 2 while resuming from sleep. The only additional option I have changed is disabling hyperthreading. I have since reverted this option and havent experienced a BSOD yet. maybe that could be looked into?

 

If your CPU reached advertised max Turbo Multi anyway it will just keep it there for a while longer. If it has trouble to reach it on standard values then it will put it up there to meet spec.
Many P-series users use raised TDP values to do just that.

IMHO, that may not be related. Any drivers (gpu) updated recently?
The disabled HT will decrease the load on CPU and helped to make many systems more stable.

 

Never noticed that when I was testing it, maybe take another look. With GPU disabling CPU turbo though it's kind of a moot point anyhow isn't it? Unless you're doing lots of CPU intensive stuff without GPU? But my system will keep all four cores at 3.1GHz for hours when running Prime95 with no throttle.

Also, I thought the TDP limit was removed from final BIOS? I don't see it at least?

 

What's the highest TDP values you guys are using? I raised it to 50W, and am wondering if it's too much, or if I can go further up to the short term limit.


**What I mean here is the CPU Power Limit that can be accessed through Prema's BIOS.

 

actually the 3610qm does throttle down to 2.9ghz if you run full IGPU load with Prime95 after about 3 minutes at stock TDP. I tried using AtiTOOL OC scanner. This no longer happened when i jacked the TDP to 55

 

Hey gentlemen, (and maybe laidies ) I finally got my W110ER back yesterday. After all I am very happy now, that mine was broken, because I got a way better device back in exchange. It has a CMO1113 panel which is at least one million times better, than the AUO I had before. Also my temps seem to be quite cool. Running Furmark + Prime it has its max at 85°C, without any optimization so far.

 

Mine isn't overheating.
In the cases it switched itself off (completely off) i was using it on a notepal u2 and it was running at about 45-50°C.
Unfortunatley the event log in windows doesn't give any hint on the shutdown.

 

I think i have resolved the issue,well, i hope ! i think it's a driver related issue with the hotkey driver, uninstalled and all is OK, well, so far.

 

The "Long Duration Power Limit"?

I don't know that it does anything that I've noticed.

 

Interesting. CMO1113, seems like it's a Chimei brand. Can't find any info on that screen though.

 

Here's a test of an Acer Notebook using this screen.
Found it on the german version of notebookcheck.

Notebookcheck Acer

http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Acer-Aspire-One-722-C62kk-Notebook.74508.0.html

 

186:1 Contrast how can that be better than the current one?

 

Depends on what the current one is, i guess.

Heres a test with an IVO panel...
Review Clevo W110ER Barebone Subnotebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

 

It's mentioned in the review. The specs aren't the best, but subjetively it looks way better. I totally agree. You cant count the pixels, like on the AUO plus colors look much more vivid.

 

i am running the latest drivers from laptopvideo2go. That hasn't changed in a bit so I am not convinced its the problem. I think BSOD's have error dumps, if I could find mine, would they help?

 

Hello guys,

I see lots of you are interested in matte screen option for W110ER.
If anyone from Europe is interested we offer all the fancy stuff like Matte LCDs, 45W/55W TDP CPUs etc. Feel free to contact us directly or shoot me a PM.

Basically anything EUROCOM offers we have available as we are their EU reseller.

Cheers!

 

I also had a BSOD after installing the latest laptopvideo2go driver. I exchanged it with the initial one on the Clevo Driver CD and now everything is fine.

 

Is anybody having problems with MSI Afterburner? It's lagging for me for some reason. It just takes for ever for items to register, and also, when I try to change some options, the window goes over the top of the screen and I can't click on any of the tabs.

Hope my query isn't too confusing..

Running on 301.42 drivers and Prema's BIOS mod.
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I updated to the latest drivers from laptopvideo2go (302.59), and I also have a slight lag, about 5 seconds, before my changes register. I assumed that's just the delay from having to overclock the card - I can guess it's a complex process that isn't something instant.

 

I dont know if you guys already know this but on the notebookcheck site:
Review Clevo W110ER Barebone Subnotebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

you can download the icc profile on the screen test and put it on yours computer, it makes the screen much better

Just put it on the color managemento of windows, go to advance tab, change system default, advance tab again and tike the "use windows display calibration".

You need to deactivate the igftray on the msconfig so that it works with optimus.

hope it helps anyone.

if someone has a different screen, the CMO1113 just use the corresponded profile

 

Review: 11 inch Ivy Bridge + Kepler (Clevo W110ER) | The Verge Forums

The i5 Ivy bridge just gets as hot as the i7. The review above uses i5 3360M and the battery life is similar to the i7, but it is a 2.8Ghz - 3.5Ghz, so i'm guessing underclocking may reduce heat-ish and bettery battery life.

EDIT: My bad, it's already been posted.

 

Hey all, Have just finished trawling this thread and there is lots of great info. thanks to everyone who contributed
I will be shortly ordering one of these awesome notebooks and wanted some opinions.

Xoticpc are by far the cheapest place to order from, but the maximum CPU upgrade is the 3610, whereas origin will instal a 3710 for a reasonable price. Overall it costs almost an extra 400 dollars to get the same setup with the more powerful CPU from origin. How much of a difference do you think that will make for games?

Also, does anyone have a good dock they can recommend? I want something to sit under the TV so i can just hook the clevo into fairly easily, and have my TV output, wireless controller receiver, keyboard and external HDD all ready to go.

Can't wait to try this little beast out

 

I have the some lag using 2.2.1 afterburner and stock drivers. Seems to take a minute to load and acts a tad off. Just feels like it doesnt like the 650.

 

Can anyone confirm of deny that this 9-cell battery can fit our laptops?

MSI L2700 Battery | Replacement MSI L2700 Battery Online Store

The wesite claims it fits.
MSI Wind L2700 Battery - 9cell MSI L2700 Battery Replacement CLEVO W110ER gaming laptop

that would be awesome news!

 

Hey guys, I'm really confused about something. Thinking about getting one of these, or possibly the 150er, but battery life is a pretty big factor for me. I decided to wait for the dual core ivy bridge cpus, hoping they'd get better battery life. I was basing this mostly on someone earlier in this thread who seemed to be saying that they could get ~6 hours battery life with the old sandy bridge processors. (Maybe I misread?) I assumed that the smaller dual core ivy bridges would worst-case use the same amount of power as the sandy bridge cpus, maybe less. But reading the review linked a few posts above, the 3360 ivy bridge dual core seems to only get 3 hours 45 mins during web browsing, which is barely better than people are getting with the quad core 3610.

So, my question is, does anyone know if the ivy bridge dual cores actually are significantly less power-hungry than the quad cores? Would the entry level 3210, which seems to be the only dual core available from most clevo builders, be the best option for getting longer battery life, or does clock speed != power usage in the ivy bridge mobile dual cores which are coming out right now?

Anyway, thanks for reading. I just thought I'd ask, since I haven't been able to find a single source about power usage of the new dual cores in these Clevos. And this seems to be the internet epicenter of info about these laptops

Alex

 

You should see the error in the event viewer, but sometimes not.

This app is probably the easiest way to analyze dumps, we used it in the datacenter when servers crashed.

Blue screen of death (STOP error) information in dump files.

 

The reason for that is mainly that unless the quads are stressed on all 4 cores, they dont use more power than a dual.

And further sometimes on single threaded loads (like light usage) the quads actually draw less power because they run at lower clocks.

 

That makes a lot of sense... But why would the dual core sandy bridge get 6 hours battery life, basically twice as much as the ivy 3610 quad core? Or maybe I just read that part of the thread wrong?... will go back and check.

Thanks

 

Well i would be very gob smacked if someone actually posted 6 hours of web browsing with any CPUs.

Maybe that 6 hours was Idle with 0% brightness, that sounds like it's possible.

As for me I changed my mind and went with an i7-3720QM because at the end of the day, I will get a higher base clock than the current Dual offering, while still haveing the grunt of 4 cores when they are needed.

As I said a few posts up also I might have found a 9 Cell battery for this baby .. if so that should project our light use battery life in the 6~7 hours ballpark anyway!

 

If you want a bunch more advanced power option copy and post the following into cmd:

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 06cadf0e-64ed-448a-8927-ce7bf
90eb35d -ATTRIB_HIDE

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 12a0ab44-fe28-4fa9-b3bd-4b64f
44960a6 -ATTRIB_HIDE

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 40fbefc7-2e9d-4d25-a185-0cfd8
574bac6 -ATTRIB_HIDE

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 4b92d758-5a24-4851-a470-815d7
8aee119 -ATTRIB_HIDE

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 7b224883-b3cc-4d79-819f-83741
52cbe7c -ATTRIB_HIDE

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 943c8cb6-6f93-4227-ad87-e9a3f
eec08d1 -ATTRIB_HIDE

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 06cadf0e-64ed-448a-8927-ce7bf
90eb35d -ATTRIB_HIDE

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 12a0ab44-fe28-4fa9-b3bd-4b64f
44960a6 -ATTRIB_HIDE

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 40fbefc7-2e9d-4d25-a185-0cfd8
574bac6 -ATTRIB_HIDE

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 4b92d758-5a24-4851-a470-815d7
8aee119 -ATTRIB_HIDE

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 7b224883-b3cc-4d79-819f-83741
52cbe7c -ATTRIB_HIDE

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 943c8cb6-6f93-4227-ad87-e9a3f
eec08d1 -ATTRIB_HIDE

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 0cc5b647-c1df-4637-891a-dec35
c318583 -ATTRIB_HIDE

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 0cc5b647-c1df-4637-891a-dec35
c318583 -ATTRIB_HIDE

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR ea062031-0e34-4ff1-9b6d-eb105
9334028 -ATTRIB_HIDE



I have been playing around with the options and have half my cores parked, but this thing is still sucking down power like there is no tomorrow.

The voltage on this chip is less than my su7300 on my m11x, but that cpu was a low power champ.

 

The seller posting about the w110er replacement battery is... a bit dubious. The text is just a jumble of buzz words of various components in the laptop. I don't trust them to keep $60.

 

I'm glad I'm not TW only one who has random freezes and lag with MSI Afterburner, I guess it's the driver and somewhat non-compatibility with the 650m.

Also, I see that 9 cell battery, but it has different hardware than what a normal W110ER would have.. I wouldn't trust it..

 

Hey folks,
I just read on the German Computerbase that nVidia managed to drop the idle power consumption of Kepler Desktop Cards significantly with their new driver.
So there is still hope for us W110ER users concerning battery life. ;D
At the official nVidia forums I read from a mod, that the next upcoming driver will unify Desktop and Notebook drivers to one package. Of course it will include the 650M.

Have a nice weekend you guys.
onkelosuppo

 

What is the diameter in mm of the open part of the fan here?:




Just ordering some fan-grills...

 

Sorry I dont have a meter stick with me but it is 1.5625 (1 9/16) inches exactly so around 39.6875 mm. Hope it helps!

Also, can somebody describe how to calibrate the screen using an icc profile or link a good tutorial? Thanks!

 

lol. Sorry for laughing, but your number 39,6875mm could only be measured with a microscoppe.
[EDIT] No offense though. When I was staying in the US for a year, trying to figure out your units, I also always read the numbers strict from the conversion table.

@Prema: The diameter is exactly 40mm.

 

Your best bet might be a combined software/hardware tool that named "spyder" Learn how to Calibrate your Monitor - YouTube

 

here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m11x/492790-m11xr2-calibrated-lcd-icc-profile.html

 

My question got lost in the dearth of posts...

What do you all think for the CPU? I'm not at all concerned with battery life, only performance.
the 3610 seems like a better choice as it is a slightly higher base rate than the 3612, but HTs review thread kept popping up that the CPU doesnt turbo with the 650m being used, while the 3612 does. Does that mean that gaming performance on the 3610 would actually be better?

the other option is that origin is offering the 3720M which is at 2.6Ghz. How much better is this likely to be?

I end up having to order from different sites for each CPU, so cost varies wildly.
Xotic PC with the 3610 is just over 1000 USD, Maingear with the 3612 is just over 1200 and the origin with the 3720 is just over 1400

I'm not really concerned with the cost, but don't want to waste money on an unnoticeable performance increase. what would you all suggest?

 

3612QM nor the 3610QM will turbo with dGPU being used, at least the way I understand it.

Personally, the 3610qm is more than adequate for gaming, and heck anything else you can throw at it.

 

Anyone ever used CPU Tweaker before?

 

If you have money to burn go with the highest rated CPU you feel comfortable spending money on but in the end all you really need is the 3610QM if your most pressing need is to game on it. I'm pretty sure reviews(Notebookcheck?) have said the 3612QM does not turbo with the 650M in use either.

 

Ok, thanks guys. I'll stick with the 3610 from xoticPC. I would prefer to order from them anyway. saves me 400 dollars so as long as it handles BF3 multiplayer I'm happy.

How have people fared with overclocking the CPU so far? Would be nice to compensate by pushing it up to 2.6.

 

No overclocking. Look at my review. 1366x768 BF3 at high settings runs 60+ FPS easily.

 

I'll overclock just 'cause I can. as long as heat doesn't prove to be too big an issue. Even if i only get another 100mhz I'm happy. but i getr as much fin out of OCing as i do from playing games

 

No, you CAN'T overclock the CPU. That's what I'm saying. Not yet at least. Not in BIOS and Throttlestop doesn't work with it yet either.

 

Oh really? But Xotic PC offer paid OCing. I just assumed that meant it was possible? what exactly are they selling then..

 

I was going to say 40 mm but I thought I might be absurdly precise

More to the point though, its hard to imagine that a single 40 mm fan can cool this powerful hardware. Props Clevo!

 

OC GPU or XM CPU.