*** Official Clevo W110ER / Sager NP6110 Owner's Lounge ***

IMO playing at 1366x768 in W110ER's 11.6" screen is OK for shooter and racing games, however, games like PES 2012 look a bit tiny at first, but it will be OK too after a while.

 

I don't play sport games, just shooters, and mmo's. Occasional minecraft. Compiling with visual studio (the purpose I need a quad-core) I went to the apple store and saw the 11.6 inch air. The screen looks tiny. Though I was not even at the height that I would normally use a laptop, I could still easily read everything on the screen.

 

I am typing with ten fingers and I type a lot over the day. On my particular machine it's a real pain. The keys aren't as solid as on nice keyboards, they are even shaky. When typing fast they would even squeek or make different annoying noises depending on where you hit them. The keyboard has a high error rate and is quite uncomfortable. For a gaming machine it is alright. But for any productive typing I use an external keyboar
Sure it's a matter of getting used to it, but generally speaking the keyboard is pretty bad.

 

I repasted using an old artic silver 3 I still had somewhere.
Could get once the cpu heat less, like 10°, but the gpu was hotter.
Could get once the gpu heat a bit less, not sure though, but the cpu was hot.

My heatpipe got a bit distorted on first try, so it didn't apply perfectly horizontal anymore. I just could get my old temps back for now, but I'll have to allow me another screw/unscrew session :'(

Be careful with the heatpipe when you open these, very sensitive and matters more than the paste used (stock one seemed really fine and application was easier, I'm not the best at pasting ^^).

The screw order makes a difference too.. for now I think my best was to screw a bit each one in order, than almost fully, again each one in order, then secure them completely.

A slight pressure on the middle of the cpu/gpu places while screwing might help too :-/

 

The keyboard can be improved, certainly... The arrow keys don't depress evenly - you have to depress the lower portion of the keys for the direction to register.

But still, I'm highly satisfied by the mobility and power afforded by this particular combination of hardware.

 

Did we ever figure out how Anandtech got 5.5 hours of internet use battery life out of their Eurocom Monster? Is it just the luck of the draw?

 

I recently purchased three of these laptops from LPC-Digital, awesome service btw. Love these laptops, a slight imperfection on one where the keyboard wasn't clipped in properly which was easily fixed with a little pressure. They run like a dream, extremely quiet when not gaming, and even when gaming, the fan ramps up initially and goes back to a quiet woosh, couldn't have asked for better acoustical properties.

The keyboard types fine, I don't have any issues with it, I have normal sized fingers. It's overall quiet a beast at this size, so portable yet can play all modern games at reasonable detail. =D

 

Three laptops!? Wow. Larry must be a happy camper.

 

Just curiosity, is there any gpu upgrade available for it? For example gtx680...

 

For the W110ER? No. GT 650m is about as large a GPU it can handle. It's soldered on the motherboard. No way in heck an 11.6" laptop can offer a 100W GPU like the GTX 680m

 

What's up with V.1 and V.2? For example; "WILL NOT WORK FOR V.2". Are you sure that this is the correct version for the w110er? Just want to be sure, since I'm probably going to buy one in the coming months.

Thanks in advance

 

That is the same LCD Mythlogic uses. If you're concerned, Mythlogic will sell you one for $150 + shipping (of course PM them for quote, pricing may have changed).

 

Thanks

Seems the matte screen also has better contrast...

 

Hi,
Unclewebb, ThrottleStop Author has just made 5.00 beta 2 version that may unlock the 8 multi (800Mhz vs standart 1200Mhz) on ivi bridge processor reducing the power consumption on idle.

Can any one check if it increases battery life?

tread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...31329-throttlestop-guide-114.html#post8648769

 

Gotta get access to the beta somehow. He let me test the first one, seeing if I can get beta 2. Prema is very knowledgeable on the subject though, and he's got it. Hopefully he'll chime in here.

 

ThrottleStop_500b2.zip

Prema checked it out and all the multipliers between 8 and 12 seem to work.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/8648470-post1133.html

The last beta is all over the place so keep this one quiet.

The VID doesn't change significantly so I don't think this is going to save any power. If the voltage is the same, a 12 multiplier is more efficient than an 8 multiplier in theory at least. Interesting to play with but I don't think this is a practical way to save power. You could try using the ThrottleStop Power Saver function if you want to prove me wrong. How many watts of power consumption are reported when idle?

 

Thanks so much unclewebb. Yeah, I can confirm the VID remains pretty much same as at 12x (0.7905), which is likely why they put it at that. Why not have a little extra power with the same voltage. Just really wish we had control with clocking the Sandy / Ivy like you can with the AMD Llano. That just opens up SO much potential and allows you to eek the most battery life or power needed on demand. So great. While Intel CPU's are powerful, I don't like that they've taken away the configurability.

 

Thx for the info!

 

Wonder which manufacturer i should get this laptop from.. Sager, eurocom, avadirect, originpc, xoticpc. So many.

 

Where do you live?

 

washington. usa

 

Exactly. All the thin keys have the same problem - arrows, '/', '~', Fn. Otherwise, it's a decent keyboard.

 

This is really a great laptop, the more I use it the more I appreciate what it is, and the form factor. My only big gripe is the heat, playing Star Trek Online with AC on in my place the CPU gets up to 88c! and that's after a proper re-paste with MX-2. I went to a local PC shop today to see if I could get some copper shims but they didn't have any, I'm hoping slipping copper shims between the CPU and GPU and the heat sinks will help lower the temps a bit.

 

I write a review with pictures and testes here Analise do notebook Sager NP6110

it is portuguese, but you can use the google translator.

BR

 

I thought the same the other day. If we just had more control. For instance if we could totally disable two cores and therefore overclock the remaining two, we'd have a fast dual core on demand. But I guess that would make it impossible for Intel to justify the inflationary quantitiy of different models they produce and offer.

 

In a way, but they don't have to officially support it. Only power users would likely do it, and would require some technical skill to accomplish it. At least if they opened up the possibility instead of locking everything down. At a minimum let us undervolt. These are mobile CPU's and with that many users want to optimize battery life.

Plus disabling two cores, your dual core config would still be slower than a regular dual core, only it would be better battery life. Otherwise it's ridiculous to have to spend $900 for that feature in an XM CPU.

 

What is the problem with quads.. Do you mean that in mono or bi-threaded games, turbo won't do full blast because the OS is using the 2 other cores ?

Or is there something else that would justify the need to disable 2 cores ?

 

In my mind, the benefit of disabling two cores would be for a more power efficient CPU for improved battery life.

I think onkelosuppo is saying he'd like to be able to clock max turbo on two cores, but maintain a lower TDP. Ultimately it would be nice to have two cores run at a higher turbo than the quad turbo (3.1GHz on i7-3610QM) for improved performance with single or dual threaded apps.

 

I vote for Eurocom. They were fast in building my system and had quick shipping. I needed my system within 4 days for a trip and they got it to me in 3. They have the matte screen option for a decent price and you can get the system without a drive and OS.

 

+1 with littlerm , for me eurocom is the best for the same reasons ...

Do you know where can i buy ( in europe if possible) a 120W psu ?

Because for me , Eurocom isn't the best choise that i have to do , due to the cost of the shipment ...

In pcw.fr (french) , i can buy one without hdd , no ram , no wifi card , and no cpu , but the major problem is that i can't take the 120w psu , and the mate screen is very expessive (150€ ...

So , i wonder if it's not better for me to take one with no component , buy them on ebay and others shops ( the mate screen on amazon.us , wifi card and cpu on ebay) .. but i tried to search after the 120w psu , no results ..

 

you should consider PWNPC's

 

Another poster here said it'd be better to look after a 3rd-party one.. Would be certainly much cheaper.

ebay, amazon.us won't deliver any electronic to you, and it's cheaper on ebay.
Assembly is really easy, too. I took it naked (barebone) on pcw. One week to deliver !

French meet here
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can you explain me, what is the benefit of a 120w?

Only when the system runs at full speed, it need's more than 90W i think?!

Best regards

 

Exactly. I was just saying that unlocking the full options (like AMD's ACC) would improve the CPUs versatility by miles. You could for instance make your CPU become a 17w dual core (probabbly do some undervolting) when your on the go and at night in the hotel set it back to its regular four cores.
I wasn't saying, that the quads are slow by any means.

 

The system is locked at 90W whether with 120W PSU or not. Even with the hidden BIOS features that Prema unlocked, we tried, and still won't charge when drawing close to 90W power.

However, the benefit is that the 120W PSU isn't working as hard since it won't be running near peak power output when loaded. At 90W it's still only 75% of peak power for the PSU so less likely to get as hot and/or burn out as quickly.

 

I got one of those 130w power bricks with mine, and it runs hot as hell.

 

My psu is 150w, it never turns hot, just like the body temperature.

 

Just don't want eurocoms name engraved in two spots on the laptop if i buy it.. They seem decent though.

 

PWNPC's communication is great an all, but it is too expensive compared to PCSpecialist, which has listed the Clevo W110ER as 'Inferno'.

I save around £150-£220 from PC Specialist with the same spec's on PWNPC's.

 

Its always an option to remove branding on Clevo machines in the configuration. I got mine unbranded and love it.

 

Not if you buy the laptops without HDD/SSD and such... you'll save a lot of cash that way, I plan on doing so sometime this summer

 

After experimenting with Throttlestop 5 beta 2, I can say that I am more than happy with the cooling in this little thing even when both CPU and GPU are maxed.

I transcode videos for my YouTube channel often and now they are much faster with throttlestop. I lock the multiplier to 30 (3.0 GHz turbo) and when it is running at 3 GHz on all cores WHILE using the GPU to transcode video and most of my RAM, the max temp on the hottest core was 87 degrees. While gaming it peaks around 80.

Does anybody know, do mobile ivy bridge chips support Intel quick sync? If so, what is the best software that supports it?

I hear it is by magnitudes the fastest way to encode video and when I am doing batch conversions, it can take a while, even with a 650m and quad core processor.

 

Anyone think about putting a touch screen that is made for a netbook on our laptops? I was thinking of getting one of those kind that you solder it onto a free USB port. Does anybody know of any free headers that are not terminated on our W110ER's?

 

I dont think I would recommend a touch screen for this laptop. While the hinge is nice and solid, it was not made to be solid under touch pressure. Especially when opened all the way.

Dont know about the connectors, but thats my 2 cents

 

Sorta concerned how small the text on websites will be if i get this.. I took a look at a lorem ipsum site at the apple store on the mba 11.6" and it was pretty dam tiny, though i was standing back a bit though.

 

resistive touch screens aren't all that great anyway. Multi-touch is better, I still don't like the idea of touch screen on a laptop, seems kind of odd.

 

I found that Mediacoder is quite good for implementing Quicksync. The x64 is a little buggered at the moment but the 32bit verison works fine. I think you might have to also download Intel Media SDK as well but the transcoding is insanely fast.

 

I'm confused how some people are getting their HDMI cable to work. Yes - WIN+P brings up various monitor options, but as others have stated they're still not having any luck. It still seems to only see the original laptop monitor as an available option. My last netbook immediately recognized the TV as a second monitor when I plugged in the cable, so I have no idea what the problem is.

 

Just tested HDMI on a WVGA projector, worked fine on first plug, no keyboard shortcut to activate, switched to mirror mode in WVGA.

When I plugged my 24" VGA display the other day, it was not recognized properly as the resolution stood maxed @1366x768 instead of full-hd.

I had to hit fn+f2 to get it well. Not sure what this shortcut really does, since I'm trying it right now and it only makes the laptop lcd flicker once.
Usually this key is used to bring the output display OSD, maybe I'm missing the driver though, can't remember.

I'm dreaming of samsung's slate 11,6" gorgeous capacitive multitouch display on this little beast, maybe as a complete tablet mode with kickstand.. let's remove keyboard and touchpad, I hate those anyway !

 

One problem that I've encountered is that the laptop cannot power multiple USB external HDD's. I have a few external WD external 1TB drives and i can't seem to get more than one to power up at a time. Putting one of the usb 2.0 slot and one on a usb 3.0 slot does nothing. Anyone else experience this also?