*** Official Clevo W110ER / Sager NP6110 Owner's Lounge ***

I think 11" screens are a bit too small for most people. It's not big enough for serious work on the go. 13" is nice, perfect size IMHO, but if you look, the competition is using 14" in their "thin and light" gaming notebooks.

 

Agreed. I feel that full HD is also becoming the norm these days. Trying to find it in an 11" form factor is not going to happen. 13" is a fair mix between resolution and size.

I messed with an 11" air and thought it was much too small. Now, moving to the 13" my father bought, its a night and day difference. Definitely miss full HD though.

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Yea, but a lot of us wanted that 11" form factor

Like a smart phone, they fit nice on a airline seat tray. I have witnessed a 14" screen hinge destroyed when "two-blocked" from a reclining seat. Agree. Any screen, at too high resolution, makes my eyes bleed. This is the part where I plug in my external monitor when @ home.

 

The W230ST is only about 0.5" deeper than the W110ER, so I don't know that the airline seat tray will be much of an issue. But I know what you're saying as I can barely fit my legs in cattle class airline seats.

 

If anything, the price on both the glossy and matte panels has come down in price of the last year--used to be around $80+, now going for under $50 on a few sites. I sent my glossy screen in recently for replacement (had discolorations), and they charged me $60 outside of warranty. I doubt they'd be doing the work at less than the cost of the actual parts.

A lit keyboard is the least important thing to me--I want a GT 765M in the 11" form-factor

 

I don't miss HD resolutions on my 11" screen. I only look at it when I'm on-the-go. Otherwise, I've got it hooked up to an oversized IPS monitor at home.

 

The 11" lets U line up a few more drinks along the side

The older Delta 757's do have seat issues with my Clevo and my 1" deeper 13" but was not implying that 13" is not a nice size or would never buy one again. Everyone should be on guard for the thoughtless seat slammers that may be in front of you, no?

@moko, yes I have noticed the prices have come down. It's just that the 11" choices have remained the same, that I'm aware of. My point was if no one but Apple builds 11 inch laptops, then Clevo would have to find a screen supplier to continue the 11 inch. Me, I want a 20" that folds up, if I live that long, but like my 13" just fine.

 

Is there a gaming laptop in the 12"-13" range being released with the 700-series Nvidia cards? So far, the smallest I can find is the new alienware 14":
Alienware 14 Laptop Details | Dell

I was really hoping to upgrade to the NP6110-replacement, but obviously that'll never happen...

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=705795

 

I'm curious to hear what the battery life is for the W230ST.

I wish i could upgrade my w110er to haswell, but unfortunately the sockets are different, again.

 

Should I upgrade to the Windows 8.1 preview or is it too risky? I'm referring to any desktop software instabilities/incompatibilities as I am not reliant on any apps right now.

What do you guys think?

 

Finally got around to replacing the crap thermal paste that came with my sager with some silver 5 I had lying around.
My i7 temps in games and heavy applications had been hitting peaks of 90C. After I replaced the paste, my max temps
have dropped a whole 16 degrees down to 74C. I was stunned. I have never had such a large drop in temp before. Also, I'm
pleased with how easy it is to remove the cpu cooler with this machine. First laptop I've ever had such a pleasant experience with.

 

Thats a nice temp drop!
Putting new thermal compound is one of the best things you can do for a computer. I've worked on many friends computers from many different brands and so many of them have had the thermal compound turn to basically dust.

 

Are you having any problems with 8 now? I'm happy with 8 and classic shell so I'll hold off until they have it all set. Already seeing some software not working with 8.1.

 

I'd avoid the preview if you aren't into troubleshooting compatibility issues. I've seen quite a few things from some friends and around online saying there isn't a seamless compatibility between it and Windows 8.0. Wait until the official release, see what the first couple weeks play out like and if there are any issues. In my opinion there isn't anything crucial it adds that you absolutely would want right away.

 

Sounds like a good idea to me. (I'm not having any problems with 8)

I just wish they would release the ISO files soon so I can try it out with a VM. EDIT: Never mind, they released the files. It's not a major upgrade, but there's some stuff I'll be happy to have when the final release comes out. When using the desktop background on the start screen, the Start Screen feels much more like a temporary menu. I just wish it was easier to switch between the all apps view and the start screen- there's a tiny button that doesn't appear right away.

 

Just a quick question all, clevo lists this laptop with Max 8gb ram. Online I notice a lot of posts/reviews with 16gb.

Is this because people have different modified BIOS ? Or can the machine actually take 16gb.

Tbh prob would never need that much, more of a curiosity.

I currently have a Scan 3XS version .

Many thanks

 

I have 16 in mine, but I also got it from xotic.

Has anyone successfully installed a linux distro on theirs? My biggest worry is the wifi switch. Is it possible to turn it off and on through separate software?

 

Linux works just fine. I have a W150er, but it works great. Nvidia is finally getting around to optimus support through Linux, but it works fine with bumblebee. Game frame rates are comparable to windows as well.

WiFi functions as it should. There isn't really extra software, per say. Depending on what you're using whether it be netcfg, netctl , wicd, etc. No external driver is needed. No issues turning it off/on whether its through the terminal, gui, or hardware button.

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Just may be due to the location of the RAM slots and the second not technically considered "user upgradable" The machines can handle more.

 

This machine utilizes the full Ivy Bridge memory spec:
Up to 16gb of RAM (Modules bigger than 8gb don't yet exist)
Ram Speeds up to 2400mhz (I think it may actually be higher but no laptop RAM goes beyond 2400mhz)

 

Oh great, my w110er failed on me today. Turn on, leds on, no screen. Yesterday it ran completely normal. Any help guys??

 

What kind of workloads have you been putting it through? Might give us clues on which component failed. Plus what is your hardware set up and os?

 

Ok, i have the 3720qm, 8gb ram, hdd Momentus XT 500gb, Win7 x64, and i had the latest prema-bios installed. Mostly used for gaming and browsing, with a cooler pad and always using Afterburner to monitor gpu temp. I had a problem once with high GPU temp, due to bad stock pasting, and it was shutting down by itself. Then I did the repaste and had normal temps again(max 83c on heavy gaming, regular 76c on games i play) for at least 4 months.

 

Well, i just found out that my ram slot(the one closest to the MB, i'll call slot2) is what is faulty. I remove both the ram and tested all the combination possible with ram1 on slot1 and 2, and ram 2 on slot 1 and 2. If i inserted anything onto slot 2, i get black screen.

The problem is that for now, i can have it running on 4gb ram only(baaaad!).

What you guys think? Maybe some dust could have done that? is it "normal" to fail a slot from night-day? I love prema bios, but could some default settings mess with ram slot(long-term)? Please, i dont want to blame your bios Prema, dont take it wrong

Anyway, is there any single 8gb ram so i can only use slot1 ?

 

Likely to be bad luck, the ram stick closer to the MB theoretically has less airflow so excess heat may have contributed to the demise of already faulty modules. Single 8gb modules will neuter the performance of the igpu a lot and a slight reduction in cpu performance. System might also be a wee bit less snappy.

 

Any idea why on certain games (Grid 2 and Skyrim with ENB) my W110er shuts off? Temps are ok CPU max 82, GPU 71/72C

 

if a W110ER would fail due to heavy workloads, it would be mine. I run lots of compression/VM's/games/testing images/making images (OS images not pictures lol) and constantly loading it up and keep it under high temperatures outside in direct sunlight and in humid conditions and it's been a real trooper. I am very happy with how it's been holding up. The only complaint so far is the keyboard, it's prone to getting shiny with heavy use unlike my other laptop keyboards such as the D630 and the Sony laptops I've had. I've typed over 2 million combined keystrokes and it's really showing it surprisingly... It's not bad just makes it look greasy hahaha. Also, since december of last year, my laptop has been off for a total of 38 hours... yup.. I use this program called Manic Time which tracks my time on pretty much everything I do and Power off time is currently 38 hours lol The life of a solo Sys Admin

EDIT: screenshot lol

 

I've had it happen on a rare occasion. I think it's a power limit thing, and also it may not be your CPU or GPU that's overheating, perhaps some other component or the southbridge chip.

 

Yeah, i guess bad luck too, what u said make totally sense.
A bought a Corsair Vengeance, must be arriving tomorrow to test it, let's see how it goes.

 

It seems to only happen with Throttle Stop running with it off it doesn't do it and its only on certain games. I have a 120w PSU so pretty sure its not that.

 

Someone was talking about Linux back there.

Bumblebee user! How have you got clocking to work under Linux? I'm pretty sure my GPU is only clocking around 405MHz regardless of performance mode and I don't buy this crap from Nvidia that performance is the same and the stat is just falsely reported in the Nvidia X Config. Mirrors Edge seems to run quite slowly under Wine and I'm pretty sure it's because of that low clock (the game is pretty damned fine in Wine!).

 

I installed the new Corsair in the failed slot just for testing... And it is working! =S i don't understand why.

 

Its very rare for the slot to stuff up, it's almost always the memory modules.

 

I've never once had mine shut off due to temps, but I also have all of my C states, EIST, and Turbo disabled. Although, that hasn't stopped the temps from getting to 90C at times. I have noticed something funny, though. After I replaced the thermal paste, I tested my i7 cpu temps at it's native speed of 2.4ghzwith and without Throttlestop. The results surprised me

Hyperthreading disabled, C states off, Turboboost off, EIST off, Throttlestop OFF
Idle: 50C
Load: 81C

Hyperthreading disabled, C states off, Turboboost off, EIST off, Throttlestop ON and locked @ 2.4ghz
Idle: 55C
Load:70C

This didn't happen when I always had EIST on and was locking the cpu to 3ghz. Disabling EIST and locking it with Throttlestop actual lowered temps by a huge amount compared to just having the speedstep crap run regularly. It would appear that the very tools designed to constantly throttle the cpu down to save power is actually causing mine to overheat within native clock speeds.

 

The slots have been know to go but yeah most likely the module.

 

On many CPUs, ThrottleStop does not work correctly when EIST is disabled. I usually leave EIST enabled because you can fully control your CPU with it on so I don't see any need to disable it.

Having the C States enabled reduces power consumption whenever your CPU is not at 100% load which for many users, is the majority of the time. When gaming, unused cores can enter these low power C States so leaving the C States enabled reduces power consumption and heat.

 

I've been wanting to add a ips to my W110er. It would be the perfect computer if it had the ips. I know that they are asking 10 panels min. I found on ebay LP116WH4 SLP1 . This has the same lvds and pin as the clevo screen but this is sold as a tablet screen. According to panelook , it does not come with brackets. Anyone has any input on this?

Edit: Found a guy who put a LP116WH4-SLN1 in the laptop. This is in chinese. Anyone want to translate?

 

Looks like you've found a picture of a successful transfer!

Excellent find! This makes me interested in doing this again.

EDIT: Hmm, seems this screen is only 262k colours just like the W110ER.

http://www.panelook.com/LP116WH4-SLP1_LG Display_11.6_LCM_overview_18793.html

That gives us the exact type of connector to look for now though if we wanted say a 16.7 million colour screen...

If it's still 1 channel LVDS, does it matter whether the screen is 6 or 8 bit?

There are lots of other models of this screen in the same series each with different qualities.

 

I really dont know as I can't read chinese. I plugged it into bing translator and google translator (still hard to understand as it is broken english but you get a general idea). This is the only panel that is easy to do and does not require modification. The interface pin pitch is the same as the one in the Clevo. The connector is the same pin connector. The guy bought a longer connector cable as the original one is too short he says.

According to sellers, this is a IPS screen with good viewing angle but I can't confirm if it is 16.7 million but the pictures of his work does make the screen look much better.

Looked everywhere for this screen all 500-800 for 1 panel. The only other place is from china but you need to order 10 pieces. Someone else mention this panel but didn't know if it would work. Now that we have someone who successfully modded into their laptop, I think this might be a option.

 

New LP116WH4 SLP1 Exact P N Matte IPS LED Tablet LCD Screen LED A 1366x768 | eBay - Can we not just buy this one..?

This is a 262K screen which is surprising considering it's an IPS display. I'd just hope colours are much more punchy on this display than on the current display I have because tbh, viewing angles aren't much of a concern, it's the really dull colours that let the W110ER down the most. You can get perfectly good TN panels with eh viewing angles (my main display - syncmaster b2430).

 

Nope, it's eDP, W110ER is LVDS.

 

The new LP116WH4 is actually a LVDS. The only problem is the pin pitch is .4. The one we are looking for is .5.

 

That's where you'd be wrong

LG Display LP116WH4-SLP1 Overview - Panelook.com

Pin pitch was what I assumed to be an issue. However, this chinese thread shows that whatever screen they are using can be put in the W110ER, apparently with little in the way of modification.

Is that the SLP1 that is in the ebay link?

EDIT:

Re-read the thread, yes it is.

So, the pin-pitch is wrong, but this person has got the screen in there. I think the adaptor that they have used (or rather the extension) is probably the key to getting this to work, although I can't really be sure since the English is so broken when translated.

I still have no idea if we can use an 8-bit panel or not? I think I /may/ have had this conversation with someone before but I've completely forgotten, my brain really is like a sieve.

 

Yea, the english is really too broken to get any detail information. I only got a general idea of what the message was. From what I know, the SNL1 goes in without any mods needed. The SLP1 needs mods and might be complicated. He did not go into details. I've been trying to find a place that sells the SNL1 for cheap instead of 500+. I'm going to see if I can ask a friend to translate the page and see if there's more to it than what we got from the broken translation. Also see if he knows anyone in Asia to get me a panel for cheap.

I think I read somewhere in this forum the SNL1 was mentioned. The panel was expensive and Alibaba has it for 60 or so but requires min 10 per order. People didnt want to order it to find out it does not work and waste the time and money.

I have no idea if a 8 bit will work. I think the SNL1 is not a full IPS but a MVA/PVA panel (which is btwn a TN and a true IPS). I owned a MVA/PVA screen and it is much better than a TN.

 

I think you've hit the nail on the head with that.

The SLN1 is the exact right display for what we need. It's a 6-bit LVDS with 8-bit colour. It has the exact right pin pitch as well, while still displaying 16.7 million colours. MVA/PVA should be so much better than the current panel so sounds good to me. So has this person used the SLN1 or the SLP1? I /presume/ they have used the SLN1 since it's the perfect panel.

Have the people talking about this panel seen the chinese thread? If not, then maybe showing them that would help.

I'll have a look around for the panel too. I'm going to Hong Kong in 4ish weeks so... could even get lucky there XD XD

EDIT:

http://shengruihk.en.alibaba.com/pr...rice_LCD_Screen_for_Laptop_LP116WH4_SLN1.html

Here is a possible place to pick up the display.

If we really want it and can't find an alternative place to buy, we need 10 of us ;P

EDIT 2:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/1029670934/Wholesale_notebook_screen_wholesale_for_LP116WH4.html

An even better looking prospect there.

I have contacted the supplier about buying one of these displays and have explained that there are others who may be interested in buying.

 

The guy used the SNL1 and not the SLP1 due to pin pitch difference. Yes, the MVA/PVA are leaps and bounds better than the TN one we currently have.

Let us know what the supplier says. I have a 2 other friends with the same laptop and hate the screen.

I been looking around and found those two same suppliers. I doubt anyone saw the chinese thread as its in chinese. My friends sister in law is actually in China and HK area right now. I asked him to see if she can find a seller for one of these panels. If she can, I'll post the place and hope someone can get it also.

I'm also looking at 12 inch IPS also. See if I can find one that's a perfect match and if the panel is cheap, I'll be the guinea pig.

 

I'll be keen on one too if you guys have to do bulk

 

Turns out I maybe one of the first to have the LP116WH4 SLN1 on hand.

I am having a friend in China ship me one.

 

Oh brilliant! Please say it's possible to have them ship out more to us ^^

I haven't had a reply back from this supplier as of yet, I'll tell you guys if I do. If I don't get a reply in a day or so, I'll pester them.