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A universal radiator for Clevo x170sm-g for 10-20-30 series of video cards is now available.)))

 

Oh that’s cool. If I ever get my hands on a 3080.

 

This looks like it would greatly help with CPU cooling.

Where can I get one?

 

Does this heatsink have a vapor chamber on the CPU side? It looks like it does.

If so, this should greatly increase the cooling capacity on the CPU side versus the stock heatsink.

 

So out of curiosity has there been any development on getting mxm cards for our machines? I saw an eBay seller have some maybe a month back, but he wanted around $2000 I think for a 3080 with the heat sink. Seems buying barebones with the 3080 and selling the rest.

With that heat sink @ViktorV posted it would be a nice way to squeeze some extra power out of this machine.

 

Series 30 cards work in x170sm, personally verified. Buying a card 3060-3070-3080 is not a problem, they are on sale, but the price is still high.

 

There is no evaporation chamber on the side of the processor, the idea was that the processor received as many cooling tubes as possible, unlike the standard radiator. Soon a water-cooled radiator will be added, so it will be possible to safely overclock the processor and video card with the liquid cooling system connected.

 

I just checked eBay and it’s $2600 for the 3080. Bleh. Only other place I’ve seen is just the bare bone laptops which are the same price. Might have to ask around to see if anyone maybe willing to sell just the mxm.

Is that heat sink you showed us readily available for purchase? I’m sure there a few of us that would be glad to buy it.

 

Everything that I posted can be purchased soon on Ebay, as well as 30 series video cards and much more. There is a lot of work at the moment, so there is absolutely no time to deal with an account on Ebay.

 

Keep me in the loop as I’ll definitely be interested.

 

It is very expensive, we offer these cards to our clients for $ 1950 in Russia

 

Still better than $2600. Dependings how much the heat sink costs it might still be worth it in my eyes since I’d rather not have to lose my 10900k with a brand new machine.

One question though. Is installing the 3080 just like a desktop upgrade. Plop it in, update the video drivers, and your ready to go?

 

Radiator without liquid cooling costs $ 300

 

On x170sm, to work with 30 series cards, you need to modify the driver, add the video card id to the inf file, since there is no support from the laptop BIOS, at least this will be required until smart people fix this problem)))

 

Here is the Telegram contact of our man from St. Petersburg, with him it will be possible to discuss issues related to the acquisition of all goods. @Needstyle

 

I'll be waiting very impatiently. Someone should quote me when it's available so I get a ping XD.

 

I'd be interested in that radiator too in 1-2 more months. Need to pay off my 2080ti first.

Poor credit card.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133828813973

Here is a link to Ebay, here all the goods for order will be posted soon.

 

That one feedback is very impressive.

 

I'm still not sure delidding does you that good with 10th gen, after many attempts, cleanups, re applications, copper ihs or standard, my cpu temps have gotten worse after that, even with normal thermal paste over the cpu I had better temps than now

 

The problem may lay elsewhere, but for my delids for 9th gen I tested and rested on a desktop first as the fit and other issues are minimized. Every 6th through 9th gen delid I did netted gains in terms of thermals.

With that being said, Intel actually did a decent job with 10th gen and the solder to eeek out as much performance with 10 cores as possible and still keep it running cooler.

 

I can’t speak from personal testing, but my 10900k ran at very reasonable temps in my x170 at 5ghz. Depending on the game of course, but it being delidded seemed to do wonders compared to anyone that didn’t have a delidded cpu in there unit. Seemed to consistently run at lower temps and higher boost clocks than a stock one.

 

Did you re-lidde? You need to close the gap between die and IHS due the thinner layer with Liquid metal (Intel’s sTim is thicker). Either with a custom lid or sand down the bottom of the IHS that meets the processors pcb. Do some pressure testing to see if the Cpu die has proper contact with IHS. And I expect you also painted liquid metal on the lid.

 

My 10900k isn't delidded and it runs at 90-100c under full load while pulling ~140w and running at 4.5-4.6GHz. even single core loads causes those specific core(s) to jump up to 90c+

Really questioning if it's my chip or if they are all like this.

 

Off the top of my head in games I’d rarely go above mid to high 80’s at 5GHz. I’d even be in the mid 70’s in titles that are less cpu intensive. So that sounds like a good reason to delid for this laptop.

 

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Did your system get the custom ZtecPC mods along with the delid?

 

Yes. I can’t tell you what exactly they did since they’re keeping that rather hush hush. But the end results don’t lie.

 

Oh I know. I just wanted to verify your temps and performance were indicative of the ZtecPC magic sauce so when units are running amok with proper attention they can be tamed.

 

It looks promising at me i9-10900K but it 5GHz already a lot for him (stress test) and the 4.9GHz yet acceptable. (90c cpu temp)
The refrigeration does not know more unfortunately. (max. 340w factory value - cpu+gpu)

 

I didn't re lid with solder or glue, that would just add more thickness that would need to be covered, have been using the copper ihs but I suppose sanding could be an option.
Not sure how to conduct pressure testings much though, unless it's just putting substances and check how well it is spread out, but from past attempts, it seems like it did contact.
I do wonder how guys like Ztec do the delidding, if they encounter similar problems

 

It's helped mine... but the CPU I had delidded is in my desktop. It's rarely goes over 70C while gaming with an all-core 5ghz.

 

Well then consider that verified. Temps have never been an issue with my unit.

 

Any word on whether this laptop can be upgraded to an 11th gen CPU if you have the Premamod BIOS?

 

Just a quick question.
Is it worth me upgrading from my 2666mhz CL18 memory to 3200mhz CL16
I've found this kit
https://uk.crucial.com/memory/ddr4/bl2k16g32c16s4b/ct19647097

 

Bragging rights mostly. In some games you might get a few fps boost here and there. But you’ll never notice. I didn’t notice any difference from going from my Corsair 2666MHz 32GB kit to my 3200MHz 32 GB kit from Kingston.

 

Thank you

 

I asked ZtecPC and they said there were no plans for 11th gen support on the SM with Premamod. I don't know why if it is unable somewhere or a marketing decision?

 

This seemed to be more of a passion project more than anything else. And the writing is definitely on the wall that DTR laptops are very likely going to go extinct. With ZTecpc not going to give the same treatment to the upgraded KM model paints a clear picture they’re not gonna put anymore time and money into the x170. Sad as that maybe.

 

I agree with you, it is more profitable for them to sell BGA solutions than modular DTRs, since modular ones can be upgraded within several years, but people will buy BGA every year a new one because the hardware is outdated or stupidly dead))).

 

This is the exact same kit I got for my laptop.

It may or may not be worth upgrading depending on your use cases. There are cases in which faster memory does make a significant impact on performance, such as if you're CPU bound.

If we're talking about video games specifically, fast memory coupled with high CPU clockspeeds can yield a significant increase in framerate if the game is CPU bound. The reason CPU bound games like fast memory is because it decreases the number of clock cycles that are wasted on waiting for information from RAM.

Examples of games where you would see a significant increase in framerate would be Far Cry 5, Shadow of The Tomb Raider, Battlefield 5, Hitman (the reboot games from 2016 and after), and Fallout 4.

In games that are GPU bound, there will be little to no benefit. As far as I'm concerned, most games are GPU bound.

To sum it up, if you only play GPU bound games (which encompasses almost all first person shooters and many third person ones as well), then save your money and don't buy this kit. However, if you're like me and you play both CPU and GPU bound games, and require 144 fps in all of them, a good CPU and high speed RAM are a must.

 

Out of curiosity, is there a way to purchase a pre delidded ( who knows, binned too) cpu like the 10900k ? ( europe , but if taxes aren't astronomical, from the US as well ). I want to test whether it is truly worth it compared to my home made attempts with my 10600k

 

will it truly run 3200 mhz though? unless you got prema bios, then I believe you got access to xmp anyway

 

Higher memory clocks tend to help with frame times, especially at higher frame rates up to a point. 3000-3200Mhz with tight timings will give most of the benefit.

 

Correct. You can get to run at 3200 mhz only if you have the Premamod BIOS as far as I'm concerned. I don't think the stock BIOS supports XMP profiles.

 

I don't think they offer it. More complex than 9th gen chips.

CaseKing offer pretested chips in Europe https://www.caseking.de/pc-komponenten/cpus-prozessoren/pretested-cpu

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Thanks for the correction.

@Joe4zio So this laptop does indeed support XMP profiles even without Premamod. Also, there is a seller on ebay currently selling delidded i9 10900Ks: https://www.ebay.com/itm/3535988922...25422e909:g:iIoAAOSwhaBg07-9&autorefresh=true.

 

good thanks, I got some 3200mhz jedec with horrible timings 24 22 22 52. I do wonder if they run anyway without compatibility issues
yeah those pretested come a bit too expensive

 

Wow at those timings, I run mine at 3000Mhz 14-14-14-37 which does pretty well for me. They are older sticks so don't tend to clock too well.

 

You guys can unlock it using my/dsanke bios! Not as good as prema but it gives memory tuning and cpu tuning options

 

I really should see if there's a way to legally/legitimately obtain PREMA for this machine.

Especially since my warranty expires at some point this month.