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it’s plenty bright, even under normal room light condition, they are easily visible.

 

I bet flattening these heatpipes on the CPU would help temps. I'm not sure why Clevo didn't do that and only installed flat heatpipes on top of the GPU.

 

They must have come to the conclusion more on top of the die is better than flat. The pipes take up about 50% more width flat.

 

It's very strange that the GPU temps are much lower than the CPU temps though during stress tests. Clearly the CPU fan has significantly more cooling potential than the GPU fan. Just look at the size of that thing!

It could just be because of the thermal densities of the processor dies, but something smells fishy. Surely CPU temps should be much lower than they are.

Given the GPU temps, this laptop should be able to cool cards with desktop level TDP with no problem. That may be a hint of things to come . Just speculation though.

 

That's because of how they designed the heatsink, copper block on the CPU and vapor chamber for the GPU. Once GPU becomes saturated, excess heat bleeds into the CPU.

Flat heatpipes cover a much higher contact surface than regular round HPs, allowing for more efficient heat transfer.

 

But flat heatpipes are less efficient that round ones.

 

This is true, but the perf reduction depends on heatpipe thickness and how much it is flattened. I assume the X170 pipes are sintered, since P870 also used them and they are cost effective.

 

I’m just curious if anyone here is looking at this heat sink and thinking of ways to mod it to add some more efficiency to it? While I’m definitely waiting to see it with my own eyes before I pass any judgement on its cooling, I’m not against improving it.

 

Just have to remove undercase and add a big watercooling XD
I'm kidding I don't know a lot in cooling ^^'

 

A while back I wrote about my speculations and worries about the X170 socket orientation and how it will affect the thermal performance.

 

Do you think that a cooling pad could help (even a little) for cooling this laptop ?

 

You mean like this?

This would be really fun honestly. But I could imagine even if you were to take some waterblocks from aliexpress and zip tie them to the heat pipes you’d get some difference.

But my computer room has a window ac unit and I just crank that when I’m in there. So it’s always like 68 degrees in there. So that would help.

Im also looking into making a laptop stand using a small desk fan to use to help cool it.

I’d never think the orientation of the socket itself would be something that would contribute to heat issues.

 

Yes exactly that XD
But do you think that put a aio watercooling on the vaporchamber could be useful? XD

 

Most cooling pads have a tendency to obstructing airflow, if you find one that has fans positioned properly or mod one, it will help a little. X170 backcover might need some work itself, depending on how restrictive it is. But should be tested.

It's a combination of socket orientation coupled with the heatpipe layout. Had the heatpipes covered the die and IHS horizontally instead of vertically, it wouldn't have been as bad. Since you would have 5-6 heatpipes over the actual heatspot, instead of 2.

It isn't to say it's terrible cooling and will likely be fine for stock and mild OCs. However, I'm a big fan of min/maxing and I see potential for improvement.

 

I mean it would draw some heat away from the heat pipes. It wouldn’t be anywhere near as effective as directly on the cpu. But atleast it would be easier to take apart if you wanted to use your laptop as a . . .you know. . . Laptop.

If it was possible to make it like that one Asus laptop that had the docking station for liquid cooling, then I’d be all over that.

 

Any discount coupon codes for ordering any of these?

 

I already have this one : https://www.amazon.fr/TopMate-Ventilateur-Ordinateur-Refroidisseur-Ventilateurs/dp/B07HD3227M
I know it help my Rog G752VS to lose some degrees after I remove the little black plastic sheet :



So the cooling pad send air directly on the pipes.
I even use it to cool my smartphone by putting it on the side of the cooling pad XD

You are talking about the ROG GX800, It was my dream laptop XD

Maybe one day I'll do something like that XD

 

A lot of high end coolers still have the same round heatpipes at the contact area.

 

Optimally you would have a mesh backcover with structural elements supporting it. To allow fans pull as much cold air as possible, while radiating any residual heat out.

Yup, but that is the difference. Desktops don't have to deal with limited internal space. I would love it if they could fit some short thick heatpipes into the X170 and have them in a layout that makes sense. But as you can see, the CPU pipes are flattened over the vapor chamber anyway.

 

Thaaaaaats the one. Shame it cost so bloody much. Very awesome idea. Sadly clearly not practical. But one can dream.

 

You mean this mesh? (I'm not sure I understood, my english is not always good^^)

Yes but a great 1080 SLI ^^

 

As much as possible for it to breather unrestricted. This was one of the things that I liked about GT76.

 

Yes it's a good thing, there's one too on the X170, am I wrong? even if it's look really better on the GT76, it should be customizable I think.

 

Yes, but it appears to have a lot of structural plastics under the mesh. I would love to see A/B testing with and w/o the back cover.

 

I didn't see there were so much plastic, but I,'m supposed it's for "guide the air" but I'm not sure, I really don't know a lot about this :/

 

That's why A/B testing with and without is interesting. Does it actually do anything besides blocking air

 

So I'll be happy to find a way to remove it ^^
Even if I'm not sure if I'll really need with a I7 10700kf and a RTX 2070 (no super) ^^

 

For stock performance, not really necessary, but likely better thermals overall. For records, benching and min/max, everything adds up in the end.

 

Just ordered my x170sm 17.3 fhd 144hz, i9-10900k, RTX 2060, 64gb Ram 3200.

 

Good to see you made your mind up on a configuration. I’m still trying to decide on the screen. I’m either going 240Hz or 4K.

 

Been lurking here for some time now, but all the positive information here coaxed me to move from my dream laptop (The GT76) to come to the X170 myself.
Bout time to take my GT72 out in the back and put her down once my order shipped.

Went with the Delidded 10700k, 2080 and 240hz screen and of course Krytonaut and thermal pads from HiD since I was a little worried about cooling given how naturally warm it is where I live. Here's to hoping cooling isn't a problem.

 

Good choice!

I think you meant Grizzly Conductonaut + Fujipoly Extreme Thermal Pads, not Kryonaut...but that is fine because Grizzly Conductonaut is better. That should drop your temps by about 10-14 Celsius.

 

Same goes for people who want a powerful Laptop that is as quiet as possible when all that power isn't needed.

 

Hello,
Donald, your HIDEvolution configurator doesn't include a "No CPU" option for any of the X170 models. Is it possible to order these without a CPU?

 

Yes and on those desktop coolers they are round on the contact area then flattened when it moves up so thermal transfer it highest when it entered the pipe and will be at it's hottest. If the likes of thermalright are doing it on their highend coolers it's probably simply a design decision which you then design around.

 

If it was was gaming, I’d get the 4K. Great for movies also. Since it’s for work, I don’t need higher resolutions. Code word need. I would love 240Hz or 4K.

 

True true. A lot of games I play are adventure style. Witcher 3, Kingdom come deliverance, and soon CyberPunk 2077. So I really don’t need high refresh rate for those titles. Plus G-sync would good with most of those titles. Im still gonna sleep on it since I’m used to high refresh rates these days. Hopefully in the next few years high refresh rate 4K panels become normal and I don’t have to chose. I’d have my cake and eat it too.

Yeah I’d imagine code work would actually be obnoxious on a 17” screen unless you had really good eye sight. Sadly I do not. Age is blessing and a curse and has decided I can’t have my eye sight as I get older.

 

Yup 100% correct I totally meant the Conductonaut! With some tweaking and both of those I should be able to tame that hot Intel beast.

 

I'd not take 4k for gaming simply as I need above 60 FPS to get a properly smooth experience for me. Each person is different.

 

Too true. I’ve been using a high refresh external monitor for awhile now. So 60Hz will probably feel sluggish to me. Might mess around with that tonight and change it’s setting to see how I feel about 60hz.

 

I’ve been using a desktop with 60hz displays and I don’t like it. Can’t wait to get the X170SM-G.

 

Good call on testing it.

 

That is the reason that I still think a high quality higher refresh rate 2560 x 1440 or 2560 x 1600 display would be nice.
It would give us good pixel size for all screen sizes up to at least 20", bigger desktops than 1920 x 1080, and much better refresh rates than 3840 x 2160.
Ridiculous that we now have to choose between a resolution that is resulting in ultra high refresh rates for high end cards with most games (1920 x 1080) and a resolution that has 4 times the pixels where some games will not even give you 60 FPS (3840 x 2160).

 

Do you know anything about 4k 144hz display?

 

I'm not aware of any 16:10 high refresh rate panels.

 

Exactly, this also strongly reduces our chances of ever getting a new laptop with an MXM GPU; LGA CPU and a 16:10 display.

 

But this is from:

Maybe you have right, but see, the Clevo Center adveritsement talking about 4k 144hz display options for extra 499 Euro

 

UHD 144Hz with G-Sync? Maybe AUO B173ZAN03.3 ?

If it's true, will be my option 100%, i ALWAYS had to decide between Resolution or Refresh Rate, why not both?

 

That's 16:9.