*** Official Clevo X170SM-G/Sager NP9670M Owner's Lounge ***

Yeah I'm glad I did. It was odd I could see it in games. But it wasn't terrible. But every game I tried was pegged at 60Hz with no noticeable drops. So long as there is no fluctuations it's hard to say it's a terrible experience. What I wasn't expecting was to see it on the desktop. Anytime Linus from LinusTechTips was all bragging how awesome high refresh rate was on the desktop I thought he was nuts. There is no way it makes a noticeable difference. And here I am wondering. . .how the heck am I noticing this? It's subtle. . .but it's there. But, that also means the 1080p 240Hz is definitely the winner here for me.

So when is Sager putting the X170 up for preorder? Just curious to see all the pricing on resellers.

 

When it's officially launched usually.

 

I am desperately looking for the specifications of this panel to understand if it could be installed in an Alienware A51-M. Would you be so kind to confirm if it is 120Hz and above all if it has same thickness of B173ZAN03.3 ? (if you are aware of).
Many thanks in advance

 

Hello,
What is the difference between the Clevo X170SM-G and the XGM Ultra 17? They seem to be identical.

 

It's globally the same computer, just sold ans modified by xmg, the only diffence are the name and the customer support (don't think there really other difference)

 

The original manufacturer is Clevo or XGM? I hope they solve the heat generation problem because I am interested on the top configuration with i9 10900K and RTX2080 Super.
Anyway I will use this beast for engineering calculations and 3D modeling, I think it will be powerful enough compared to the mobile workstations (which I am very disappointed by their performances).

 

The original manufacturer is Clevo, XMG is a reseller and I don't think they will change the cooling

 

The original manufacturer is Clevo. Everything is up to them

 

Ok, thanks for the answers.
Is there someone who is using a DTR laptop as a mobile workstation for intensive CPU calculations (like CFD) using also the CUDA cores of the Nvidia GPU? I want to be sure that this Clevo X170SM-G will not melt after 10+ hours of calculations.
Sometimes calculations last for days...

 

I have used all of my laptops for these kind of workloads without any issues. You might need to repaste the laptop yourself though because they all will run hot...

Clevo P570WM [10-Core Xeon + 970M]
P870DM [6700K (4.6Ghz) + 980M SLI & 980]
P870DM3 [7700K (5Ghz) + 1080 SLI]

Alienware M18xR2 (3920XM @ 4.4Ghz + 780M SLI)
Area-51m R1 (9900K @ 4.7Ghz -100mV + RTX 2080)

ALL of them required me to do repaste. But after that they are all fine running at stock clocks all day, assuming you don't hit a power limit.

Undervolting CPU will help a lot in terms of long term boost clocks as well as thermals

 

My goal is to not achieve the best score on various benchmarks. Not at all.
My goal is to have a fast machine (desktop replacement) with a good computational capability, graphic performance and reliability. I don't care for the stunning design of the chassis or for the limited dimensions and for the weight of the laptop + power supply.
The fact that this X170SM-G brings a desktop CPU is something which fascinates and captures my interest a lot.

 

I never mentioned benchmarks, I even mentioned I am running at stock speeds.

X170 should be fine for your needs. If you need more CPU power and less GPU power there is also the 16-Core AMD model Clevo as well with RTX 2070.

 

I am not sure of what CPU is the best.
For example, the CAD software which I daily use is Siemens NX which is well known to be a single core CPU usage. Every command is carried by a single core (not multitasking) and in this case the best CPU is the one with higher clock and better performance in single core.
According to the reviews, the i9 10900K should be a winner.
I would like to have a Quadro RTX series GPU on the X170SM-G, but I suspect that this customization is not possible.

 

Quadro performs way better for Siemens NX..

RTX 2080: 22 fps
Quadro RTX 5000: 322 fps
Quadro RTX 3000: 216 fps
Quadro P3200: 233 fps

CPU will matter less than GPU.

Any i7 or i9 CPU in X170 will be enough.

Weirdly enough my Area-51m with RTX 2080 performed much better than the online results I found: Go to 6:00

 

Thought this was an informative video for us that want the 10900K. What I'm getting from this is if you don't go nuts and keep your expectations in check then 4.9Ghz on all 10 cores is probably very possible. Though it'll be toasty. So delidded 10900K is almost definitely required if you're chasing anything beyond that.

 

Then I have to change model because the X170SM-G does not allow to choose the Quadro GPU

 

It goes exponential as you get towards 5Ghz in terms of power usage.

 

I’ll grab the cast iron skillet.

 

You'll want 5.4Ghz for that The smokiness enhances the flavour.

 

X170 System teardown and a look at the internals.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ZZ4y1M7hP/

Thermal testing, FurMark, AIDA64 FPU and unified heatsink temps w/ 10700k
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1op4y1U7YQ/

Toasty @Papusan @Mr. Fox

 

Still unbelievably excited to get one.

 

AIDA64 FPU + FurMark is a very unrealistic load. Proper UV, delid and a few mods and it should be fine for gaming.

 

100 bucks says you return it within 30 days lol.

 

Fingers crossed this is the one buddy.
Btw you’re on.

 

New video which shows off the insides of the X170.
We can also see the BIOS which confirms:
1) Clevo moved from AMI BIOS to Insyde BIOS
2) Clevo updated their BIOS design and is using now a modern graphical user interface instead of the old 20+ year design

 

For the other new models Clevo was already using Insyde.

 

Oh I didn't know that.
Hopefully this will be better, there were some issues with AMI bios.

 

No laptop can stand an Aida FPU test with 10700K/10900K, not even after modding and delid. For an FPU test AIO or custom built water cooling is mandatory to keep it under 90C.
However as you said it is an unrealistic test and most game will be fine.

 

Does anyone see the spot where the 2.5" hdd goes ?

 

YES

 

Unless HIDevolution is incorrect there isn’t any. It’s all M.2 storage. Four of them.

 

Oh I didn't notice that, but why is there M.2/SATA in some configurator ?

 

One of the M.2 with only sata support.

 

Yup. Which is fine. Can use that for movie storage.

 

Are these things shipping yet at all or are we still playing the waiting game. I haven’t seen any of these in the wild so to speak. I notice quite a few people on this thread seem to be ordering from hid is that more so you can get conductonaut and delidded. I’m in the us and I have had my eye on this rig the only thing I don’t really like is the 2 power bricks needed to run these rigs.

 

What is the difference with a M.2 et M.2 only SATA support?

 

Preorder only right now. ETA is July. And we have no concrete release date yet. HIDevolution not only is the cheapest option I’ve seen they also offer delidded CPU’s. So if you want your CPU delidded right out the gate they’re a great reseller to go with. Sadly if you want a Desktop replacement of this caliber the two power bricks will be required during heavy loads.

 

Oh no, that is a bummer
Asus tried the "only ssd" route in the past and a lot of customers weren't happy. Even myself have a 2 tb hdd to store large files. Much cheaper and much more reliable then going ssd :/

 

There's still USB-c for HDD but it's true that it's not always nice

 

Only Sata support means old ssd speed as etc 540/540

PCIe ssd’s more like 3600. But you won’t see the huge difference in real usage. The benefits come with transfer of huge files.

 

Well even though this machine is big, it is smaller than the last generation. That’s the curse of thin bezels. Less room. I can’t say for sure, but looking at the inside it looks like the battery and sub take up a lot of space. M.2 ssd are becoming cheaper and cheaper. But again there are four storage slots. So you could add a lot to this machine. Last time I used a hdd as a game drive I was just shocked at how terrible the load times were. So I’m all good with ssd only.

 

Thanks, so it's "more for storage" than other

 

Yes. Or as cheap OS disk who don’t need handle big file transfer.

 

It’s perfectly fine for games too. Plus SATA m.2 storage is a good bit cheaper than PCIe ssd’s. I’d have to look because I don’t think the difference in game load times is noticeable to the naked eye between the two.

 

With GTA V it's already really noticeable

 

I have giga line Internet. Then it will help with fast ssd when you download what you need.

But many can handle 3-6 sec higher load times in games.

 

It’ll depend from game to game too. Any game that has bad load times to begin with would probably be worth using PCIe. Skyrim has load screens all over the place. On a hard drive you could read the in between loading area tips. Even with a SATA ssd you didn’t have time to read them.

I keep forgetting it makes a difference when downloading things. Neat.

 

Gigabit theoretical max speed is 125MB/s, a non crap HDD will be able to cope with that, because real world download speeds will be in the 104-108MB/s due to error correction and overhead, but a older HDD can indeed limit download speed.

 

Do you guys think the i5 is plenty for a rig primarily used for gaming I was looking at benchmarks and it seemed like to me it was beating I9 9900k in some cases


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https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpus,3986.html

Btw for storage. Coming 980 Pro is backwards compatible with PCIe-3.0 for cooler running NVMe drive. And expensive and max out at 1TB
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/r...ung-980-pro-ssd-will-have-max-capacity-of-1tb