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yep, a 6 core 12 tread i5 is more than enough for gaming atm.

 

I realy do belive you will never reach those temps in gaming, furthermore I think this is the first revision of cooling (that one that clevo arent happy with). Maybe we will see an improved one when we will have avalability.

 

I commented on it here,
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...g-owners-lounge.831618/page-108#post-11028062

There is no new heatsink as far we know, only change that appears to have been made was to the fan curve. So once they are in hand we can say for sure.

 

I have my 10900k in hand, kind of like buying wheels before buying the car.

 

I wouldn't have been able to keep myself from delidding it.

 

Has there been any testing of delid vs stock with the 10900k? I know for the 9900k, it was ~2-4 difference (plus the extra added height love of BartX for the 870tm).

 

About 7c

 

As soon as I saw the cat, I was like, "de8auer"

 

Well lucky yooooooou!

Seriously I hope they’re isn’t a shortage when this laptop is launched. I’d just have HIDevolution delid one for me.

 

Shipped to Silicon Lottery 15 min ago.

 

Why not just DIY Don't remember if SL bins it in the process, ie. test volt/freq curve.

 

If they delidding the chips. They could also bin it for bro @Darkhan

 

Correct
I have gotten 4 various ones from them and they have all been impressive.

 

Will delidding a 10900k make it lose its warranty? Was thinking of getting the Tuning warranty plan from Intel, https://tuningplan.intel.com/purchase-a-plan
But don’t know if it’s with it, since I won’t be overclocking.

 

It doesn't cover physical modifications AFAIK.

 

Generally not worth it as CPUs don't tend to fail and yes mechanically altering it would void the warranty.

 

For soldered CPUs, it will harder to get a delidded chip covered by Intel, as there will be signs of tampering.

 

It really depends on how careless they are at checking chips I suppose but that's quite a gamble.

 

Indeed, I've never heard of anyone sending in a delidded STIM chip and get a replacement. But perhaps it's possible outside of EU?

 

Clevo is starting to ship out units today, early resellers in China are getting it by tomorrow. Limited 2080s units at the moment.

I am testing if I can get the ram to run at 4000mhz on the X170SM-G now, fingers crossed.

 

Finally!

 

Do you guys use conformal coating or high temp electrical tape when applying liquid metal just curious about what the preferred method is for everyone since this laptop will be more than likely requiring it


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I just use nail polish coating, easy and effective

 

Welp, 4000mhz is no go for now, the bios is extremely limited at the moment. Need to wait for someone or Clevo to unlock it and update it.

 

Doesn’t that increase heat though. I’d love to see someone make a video on what there process is I always worry I’m going to fry something


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you only put a little bit on the metal contacts or pins, what ever that might conduct electricity near the chip. Those don’t really give off any heat.

 

3200Mhz ran CL22-22-22, does XMP even work at this point?

Kapton tape and foam works great, plus remember you need VERY little liquid metal, not a blob. And it will stick to the IHS/Heatsink due to surface tension.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...r-liquid-metal-safety-insurance-guide.817207/

 

What ram speed was possible? And could you post pict of important Cpu/ram settings that is working? Thanks

 

Can we please get a video of one of you guys doing this and what process you use

 

Proper LM application


CPU masking


ILM & IHS masking


For foam barrier check the link I mentioned earlier or check this.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...nge-phoenix-3-0.800081/page-218#post-10586940

 

That has to be the most comprehensive video on liquid metal application I have ever seen.

 

A less orthodox method instead of foam barriers is to fold your electric tape into 'straw' dams: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/repasting-my-775tm-gpu-with-lm-a-brief-report.832021/

 

But is xmp profile setting available ?

There is crucial 3200 MHz cl16 ram but xmp profile setting is needed or else it will only run at 2666 mhz.

Also, could you please run a Fire Strike run and show the results where we can see :
- the graphics and physics score
-the diagrams where we can see CPU clock, gpu clock and CPU/gpu temperature

This 1 run of FS and 1 or 2 screenshots could answer a lot of conserns and questions.

 

Nevermind

 

Disable hyperthreading on it and run it at 5.4 ghz.
Is it pre-binned?

 

Does intel's processor replacement overclocking plan cover delidded processors (if you still have the original IHS?)

 

Have to be VERY careful with that foam!! it looks way too thick!
Fan filter foam is better, foam that comes with some case fans. Or you can buy this air conditioner foam.
https://www.amazon.com/Duck-Replacement-Conditioner-24-Inch-1285234/dp/B002GKC2US/

 

Members have been asking to post how I tried OCing the ram. Welp, the bios is locked so that was no go. I tried XTU but XTU got stuck every time I went to the memory menu, so that didn’t work either. At this point I just gave up. But yes, 3200mhz does work, I will post CPU z info a little later.

 

don’t worry about GPU temps, they are really good, even when cpu+gpu stressed, it doesn’t hit 75c (2080s), but cpu is another story. I delided a 10700k, but didn’t have time to test it yet.

 

You have made a physical change. Maybe you get your money from warranty if they don’t see the change vs original/don’t open the lid.

 

I don't worry about the gpu temp, that was fine even with p775 which has inferior cooling compared to this .
What I want to know is the quality of the unified heatsink and bios.
Max temps after a Fire strike run will give you the temps that you can see during gaming. Some games will make it hotter but most will give the same as you see after FS.

I also want to know if you can set a fixed multiplier for all cores, for example x47.

I would also like to know that the set 4700 mhz is how stable during a FS run by checking the CPU core frequency line (purple line) at the diagramm showed after the run.
Is it perfectly fat with 4700 mhz value or is there throttling ?
Clevo p775tm was most of the times stable regarding this however older P775 bioses throttled and the CPU sometimes dropped to 800 mhz for a millisecond and the purple line was not at and had some visible spikes.
Rtx p775 models had some issues with the bios. 9900ks was fine most of the times however 8700k showed the bug a out 2/10 times when the machine was turned on. The bug is that the bios "forgets" to enable turbo boost and will run the CPU at stock factory frequency. A reboot could fixed this problem but it was a pain in the *ss.

So I asked this test for to see:
- is the bios quality good meaning the CPU line is flat when you set all cores the same multiplier or it's garbage like in the older days a few years ago and there are spikes
- combined temps during a "normal" run environment to get an idea about gaming temps
- new Fire Strike added a new value to the diagramm and now gpu core clock is also visible. Would be nice to see how the gpu clock was during the run

All these info (the whole diagram with CPU and GPU score) can be fitted on to 1 screenshot.
1 screenshot could answer a lot of questions so please do it when you have the time.

For example here is a run that I made with my P775TM with rtx 2080 and 9900ks.
9900ks should perform the same as a 10700k but 2080 has a vBIOS with really low tdp and less shaders so the 2080s should outperform that easely.
As you can see you can fit a lot of data on 1 screenshot just made of FS.



Thank you!

 

Intel Core i9-10900K & Core i7-10700K CPUs Now Available In Pre-Binned Flavors - Up To 5.1 GHz Clocks For $950 wccftech.com | Today

As of 7/1/20, the top 24% of tested 10900K fell within our 5.1GHz bin.
https://siliconlottery.com/collections/all

 

Only $950? @Darkhan where are you at?

sheeeeesh.

 

Should be a great chance for 5.0GHz all cores on retail chips. But will be hard to reach on laptops. At least this has to be my goal with X170

As of 7/1/20, the top 73% of tested 10900K fell within our 5.0GHz bin or greater.

Delidding:
Peak core temperatures under a heavy overclocked load typically decrease anywhere from 5°C to 12°C for Intel 10th generation CPUs

 

Well that sounds like good news for myself to get a delidded cpu then. I have no hopes of getting the best scores. Just a good reliable machine that will get more life out of that a thin n light.

 

Nope, they rule delidding as doing physical modification to the CPU and as such do not cover it.

From my first pic? It's illustrating CPU masking, just so happens CPU was on some white foam when I took the pic.
I use compressible foam for my gpu & cpu.

 

With 10900K a SL chip makes a lot of sense.

 

I paid retail for my 10900k and another 50 for delid, SL reported the one I sent binned at 5GHZ. it ships back to me today.

 

Interested to see your results. Appreciate your time taken.

 

What kind of compressible foam did you use or where did you buy ? Also is it my understanding that you leave that duck tape on the cpu area? Thanks


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