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HID does. Not sure about Sager or Xotic.

 

We use standard thermal compounds.

 

Yea but hid is not offering it on the cpu this time only the gpu which to me makes no sense usually the gpu is adequately cooled not the cpu


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Using liquid metal on the gpu makes sense because the die is exposed and makes direct contact with the heat pipe. Dissipating the heat more efficiently. The CPU is a desktop cpu and has a heat spread on it. And using liquid metal on it is pointless and a waste as it’s another layer that you need to dissipate the heat through. Delidding the cpu and putting liquid metal on the die on the other hand is effective.

 

This seems to make sense.who does a person deal with now at hid ? Also sine I had ever ordered from them what’s there quality control like? In the evoc with the 2070 super I saw quite a few reports of doa or issues shortly after recieving


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@Spartan@HIDevolution is now their forum sales and support rep

As an aside @Spartan@HIDevolution ... When did this happen? I just noticed a few days ago

 

Does anyone have more information on what display panel this model uses(both 1080p/4k)
Color accuracy and pwm dimming specifically.

Thank you.

 

Hmmm... Does polishing the heat sinks or pipes aids better heat dissipation? That's kinda ...worth testing!

 

Seeing this new video I am starting to get worried :



Worry #1: stuttering
We can see a Time Spy run which stutters like hell. If it was running without Gsync then I guess it might be ok however if Gsync was used then oh boy...p775tm1g with rtx 2080 and 144 hz 18ms auo Gsync panel run this smoother.
According to the video the test machine used LP173WFG-SPB1 (LGD0615) 144 hz 5 ms Gsync panel so it should have been much smoother.
What gives ?

Worry #2: rtx 2080 super with rtx 2080 performance.
Again, same issue that mysn test had. 2080s is underperforming . In TimeSpy it gave slightly better performance then 2080 however that could be because the vBIOS with higher tdp. A vBIOS with 200w can give that extra boost over the vBIOS with 150w.

Is everyone using an outdated driver with battery saver mode set in w10 or these tests are accurate ?
Is Clevo cheating and just updating the vBIOS to 200w and then falsely renaming it to 2080s ?

So as far what I saw about this laptop are 2 issues:
1) unexplained stuttering
2) underperforming vga

 

I fix it for you.

CBR20 with 8 cores 10700K should be nearer 5000 than 4K


https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/intel_core_i7_10700k_processor_review,8.html

Edit. See also my previous post regarding performance results... http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...m-owners-lounge.831618/page-137#post-11035299

Have you seen proper bench results? I never jump directly on new only because it's the newest out there.

 

Correction, I'm no a technician, just a salesman. If I do help someone though on the forum it's because of my personal knowledge but isn't my my role. We have a dedicated support team.

 

I saw a lot of sellers in China selling it with the B173ZAN03.3 (4k@120hz) as a official option for x170sm-g(Taobao - Mainland china). I currently have that screen, going to install it on the P775TM1-G( The edp cable is a bit different plus the tape to stick the screen). I want to FOMO and go for the x170sm-g but the only thing holding me back is the performance difference between the rtx 2080 (200w) and rtx 2080s (200w) its negligible(using my p775tm1-g with 2x330w).

 

Nope but I will be next month hopefully

 

Are display panels in the same 'family' interchangeable and plug&play?
I'm interested in the Adobe RGB, 1 billion color version of the 4k screen, AUO B173ZAN03.2.

 

Both Obsidian, XMG and Clevo-Center are offering 240Hz screens with G-sync. I'm VERY tempted to get the Obsidian one as they pretty much offer exactly what I want out of this bad boy.

 

But those 2400mhz RAM offerings tough

 

it is actually a very good screen, that particular screen can work on the p775tm1, dont know about the others, it needs a 0.5mm 40 edp or 0.4mm 40 EDP make sure of that and then buy. (WITH HDR)

 

on the x170sm, i have seen an option for the mini led 4k screen 60hz, which should be better than the B173ZAN03.2

 

Is that the 1000nits display?

 

True, but I'll likely opt out of RAM and buy 3200mhz sticks instead.

 

any link or panel serial?

 

With all the uncertainty I was going to order one of these but I’d like to see someone on here with a legit review of screen and gpu power.

It seems concerning that the 2080 super benchmarks aren’t really beating the 2080. That and the fact we don’t seem to have any solid info on the screen which is huge for gaming.

I could see this laptop being able to handle ultra 1080p for years to come but the screen could hold it back and depending on what’s really going on with the gpu.


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Not knowledgeable enough about that. Hopefully someone will chime in on this.
I seem to remember someone talking about this. It might have been Gamers Nexus.
I´ll have to look this up again. I´ll post it when I find it.

 

I´d love a decent review on several things. I was ready to pull the trigger. But kind of waiting and seeing if we can get some more info.

 

Hello, i've orderd this machine from XMG and hope to pick it up within the next 2 weeks!

Here are my specs:
1 x 17.3" Full HD IPS | 240 Hz | G-SYNC

1 x NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER | 8 GB GDDR6

1 x Intel Core i 7-10700K

2 x 8 GB (16 GB) DDR 4-3200 Samsung

1 x 500 GB M.2 Samsung 970 EVO Plus | PCIe 3.0 x4 | NVMe

1 x Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 | Bluetooth 5.0

1 x RGB-Tastatur mit Einzeltastenbeleuchtung | Deutsch

1 x Vorinstallation Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (ohne Lizenz)

1 x 24 Monate Basis-Garantie | Pickup & Return

1 x Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut

1 x XMG-Logo auf Displaydeckel

2 x Netzteilstromkabel C14 | EU

 

Nice! Let us know the details when you tried it out.

 

Sure will do

 

Der8auer did a video on how polishing an IHS with different grit affects the performance. Overall flatness and contact affects the performance the most, so you want to lap both surfaces that meet.

 

i understand but i wouldn't worry especially if you order it from HID they test the computer first
they wont ship a computer thats under preforming or bad performance , overheating also if you dont like it you can always return and get your money back

 

Would be nice from the resellers to clear out the concerns and finally give us tests with up to date drivers and maybe get to the bottom of the issue of why the 2080 super performs as a 2080 in the tests so far.
Is it a power issue ?
Is it a driver issue ?
Is Clevo cheating and lying to customers and they are labeling a 2080 with higher tdp as 2080 super ?

As for the CPU I have a hunch why it scores lower as expected. I bet that it was left at the default 125W setting, however even a 4.6 GHz setting needs at least 130W for cinebench R15, the stock 4.7 GHz and cb r20 needs even more. So cinebench hit a brick wall and the CPU throttled down to 4.0-4.3 GHz and thus the low score.

But what is happening with the vga ? According to mysn the gpu clock is above 1800 mhz and stable at around 1850 mhz so by this there is no throttling...so why the low score ? Did everyone use a so old driver that it literally crippled the vga or is Clevo cheating and selling us a 2080 labeled as 2080s?

 

Mine's also coming in the next days at most.
10600k and 2080S,
curious thing was 3000mhz ram was deemed unstable and as such PCSpecialist went for 2666mhz, I think I'll be doing some decent testings indeed. With updated drivers.

 

Please let us know what kind of thermals and how the gpu performs


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if they were labeling 2080 as a 2080S then selling it that would be fraud and they couldnt get away with that the resellers wouldn't allow sales of that they know they would get in trouble if they did

 

3000 mhz Rams were fine in the p775tm, would be weird if x170 can't handle them.

Not to mention that the Chinese guy with the earlier videos were running his x170 with Rams set at 4000 mhz...

 

Sounds like to me there are quite a few weird things being reported and it depends on the vendor


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That is why it would be nice to find out why it performs as a 2080.
It has more power, a higher tdp, so it should give at least 26500 due to the higher clocks.
And since it has more shaders it should give us at least 27000-28000 graphics point in fire strike but instead we only get 26000 which is just slightly above 2080.

 

Will be interesting to hear about it

 

When I ordered mine, I didn't have a 2080 Super option. It was 2070, 2070 Super or 2080.

Not sure if that's just a UK thing or not.

 

PC specialist didn't offer the 2080 Super for me. Just 2070/2070 Super/2080.

Went with the i7-10700K, 32GB DDR4-2666 and 2070 Super for my config.

Just went and checked though and it looks like the 2080 Super is available now, so that's interesting.

 

How come you went for the 10600K? It does look good enough on paper, but wouldn't the 10700K be the sweet spot between i5 and i9?

 

Maybe because the 2080 super is just not much better than the 2080 in mxm


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PCS did not offer 2080, only 2080S.
But even if they did it must have been an error or last attempt to clear out the few remaining in stock when the 2080S shipment got delayed for a week.

However I am starting to get worried...many resellers here in NBR have it in stock however none of them stepped up and showed us a proper Fire Strike and Time Spy benchmark where the score is not close to 2080 and instead closer to a normal 2080S .

 

Couple of reasons I guess, main one being cooling, I dislike high temperatures, if possible I'd like to keep it on the mid 80s on worst case scenario for my usage, secondly, I am used to 5820k and to the performance around the range of 10600k, I don't need anything more, at least for the time being.

 

With a little time I suppose they´ll post something. Maybe next week we can get something.

 

I also wonder with the soon to be released new gpu and they will deffinetely have a mobile version within 6 months after. Nvidia has been know you have reatailers get rid of old stock. This could be part of it.


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i understand your concern and i wanna know why it has scored lower as well this benchmark is from a alienware 51m R2 with a 2080 Super https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/49149879?
if this x170 with same specs scores below this area 51m R2 then there is something wrong if not and scores the same or above then its fine

 

If gaming is what you need a high clocked 10600K will do the job very well.

 

That's why I went for the 2070S since it was saying that or 2080. From what I could find (for the desktop version) there wasn't much difference between the 2070S and a 2080... other than about +£250 price.

 

The 2070S is a very decent balance.

 

I noticed many are showing the laptop in stock, but none are saying that they will go out before August 15.
Maybe it’s what they’re saying to be safe, and laptops will go out mid next week. Who knows at this point.