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    *** Official Clevo X170SM-G/Sager NP9670M Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Rahego, Jan 10, 2020.

  1. sniffin

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    11900K and 10900K seem to be the same price at my local Clevo reseller. Makes for an interesting choice, and I guess depends on what you do with the machine.
     
  2. 1610ftw

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    Indeed and not really knowing how much better the new chips will really be when only 8 cores or less are needed does not make the choice easier.
    Luckily for me it was an easy decision as I have a multicore workload where 10 cores beat 8 cores and a few hundred MHz at the top do not really matter so it was easy to get a relatively low cost 10850K. When optimizing for gaming I could see a number of selections making sense and a good bang for the buck gaming setup could for example be a combination of the 10700k with the 3070.

    So I guess it will be hard to know which is the better choice until there are some 10900k to 11900k comparisons in the X170KM-G and even then the 10900K should still be ahead in multicore testing.
     
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  3. 1610ftw

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    That will be a good opportunity for a larger, more powerful chassis.
    I would hope that this time they go vapor chamber for GPU and CPU.

    As I needed something now I could not wait but if something really great comes along with Alder Lake or possibly with a socketed high performance AMD CPU I will be tempted!
     
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  4. Red Line

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    So as of right now we have older 4k60 and 1080p 144hz options as well as new 1080p 300hz panel, all are G-sync across various resellers.

    Does anyone have info if it supports hdmi 2.1?

    Sent from my GM1900 using Tapatalk
     
  5. M17XR42012

    M17XR42012 Notebook Consultant

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    Someone mentioned a 4k 144hz screen for the x170gs-m, any updates on that?
     
  6. 1610ftw

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    Pretty sure it was 4k 120Hz and it will not be available for a while.
    Another upcoming option will apparently be the QHD screen with 165Hz that we have recently seen in a number of laptops.
     
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  7. BillR

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    At least we're starting to see them. I think I'll want a fast compile over fast test runs, ie single over multicore. Soon see...
     
  8. BrightSmith

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    We'll need a more powerful gpu than the castrated 3080 to use that 4k screen anyway
     
  9. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Not so sure they will bother with a whole new chassis design for LGA1700. Only 7.5 mm longer and remember Clevo use TRIPOD heatsink mounting design for Cpu socket in X170. 2 revisions of same chassis is too short timeframe for pay off. A minor change is enough to make it work.
    What is the Return on Investment (ROI) for Engineering

     
  10. admatsapura

    admatsapura Notebook Enthusiast

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    when booting, the keyboard has colored lights, the fan is noisy, the keyboard is blue - the screen remains black. took out the cmos battery, power cord,accumulator . stuck the food for 30 seconds. took out the ram memory. no result. black screen. what else can i do?
     
  11. admatsapura

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    or just reflash firmware using programmer?
     
  12. Meaker@Sager

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    When did it start doing that?
     
  13. ViktorV

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    RTX 3080 in Clevo p775TM1-G, the laptop gave the picture further is not tested yet, there is no compatible radiator, I will try to modify the radiator from P870KM T-shaped, and further tested for Clevo P870KM-G
     

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    apparently changed some bios parameter - I used unlocking the bios.
    tried to change ram settings
    Where is the BIOS chip on the motherboard?
     
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  15. ViktorV

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    The BIOS chip is located at the top under the display. The gd25b127dsig chip
     

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    Would be best if they kept it on as a TM7xx replacement. The bigger chassis could be in the tradition of the P870 or if you want to go waaaay back the X8100.
     
  17. Entropytwo

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    Doubt that those rough edged chassis tools cost alot. It's a very simple manufacturing process. Other manufacturers do it every other year as well
     
  18. admatsapura

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    please help with bios damp file for x170. i make one but affrade size not mutch only 12,582,912 bytes
     
  19. jc_denton

    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Do share your progress, as the mod sounds interesting and hopefully will work. Good luck!
     
  20. joluke

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    Where did you buy the 3080 for it?
     
  21. ViktorV

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    If there is a positive result, I will definitely inform you)
     
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  22. ViktorV

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    VideoCard 3080 was taken from X170KM-G
     
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  23. ViktorV

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    X170SM or x170KM?
     
  24. joluke

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    Oh. Thanks. Thought it was available to purchase
     
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  25. BrightSmith

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    Great sacrifices have to be made :D
     
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    I said that the card was taken from x170km, but that does not mean that I bought this laptop)
     
  28. admatsapura

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    ssory dump not full bios
    like fptw or from programmator
     
  29. M17XR42012

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  30. S.K

    S.K Batch 80286

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    What I'm interested in seeing is what is the actual real world performance edge for the 3080 with just 165 watts power cap over the 2080 super. My gut feeling says it's pretty much the same, or may be even worse. But haven't seen any comparisons done yet.
     
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  31. 1610ftw

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    If Time Spy benchmarks are any indication you can probably expect something like a 15% increase in performance with higher resolutions.
     
  32. Meaker@Sager

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    With better ray tracing performance.
     
  33. BrightSmith

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    Yes, RTX and DLSS are its main selling points.
     
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  34. Terreos

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    Synthetic benchmarks seem to indicate it’ll be in the ballpark of an overclocked 2080S. If that’s stock vs overclocked im not sure. But that maybe worth it to some of us if it’s stock performance. So long as it’s not unreasonable to get one I’d like to test one out. So fingers crossed they’re easier to get than a real 3080.
     
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  35. ViktorV

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    X170KM-G test in game
     
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  36. ViktorV

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    But you need to take into account the fact that this is essentially not a real 3080, but at best a full-fledged 3070, and getting these cards is also not so easy, at least in the near future, they are sold only as part of the X170KM laptop.And the price is very high at the moment)
     
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    I’ve been warning people about that for months. More or less telling people to not buy anything above 3070 laptop this gen. ;) Still since they capped the 3070 with less watts it seems like if you’re gonna bother upgrading you might as well go all in.
     
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  38. ViktorV

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    I agree that if everything goes well with the installation of these cards in previous generations of laptops, it will help people move to the next generation cards at a lower price) Now, if Dsanke makes a BIOS for these laptops, it would be great)))
     
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  39. S.K

    S.K Batch 80286

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    I am talking about 165 W version in this laptop, not the regular card that takes 300+ watts.
     
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    The 3070 could be a nice upgrade over the 1080 with a much lower price than the 3080 and still a ca. 50% performance increase and of course the addition of ray tracing.

    And it would really help if mxm cards were available at decent prices!
     
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    Of course it's unreasonable. It's the same price plus new heatsink.

    1300+$ wild guess
     
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  43. ViktorV

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    At the moment, the RTX 2080super will be a smarter purchase than the RTX 3080, the performance figures are approximately equal, the 3080 slightly outperforms the 2080super, but not enough to pay extra money for such a small difference in performance.
     
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    If only you could practically buy a mxm 2080S... They're scarce and, hence, expensive.
     
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    They are, the price at the moment my supplier has $ 1275
     
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  46. jc_denton

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    Can you check whether the 3080 MXM has two or more power monitoring resistors on the back? 1080 had 3 resistors (1 at front, 2 back) that were moddable, while 2080/2080S had 2 on the back of the card.
     
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    [QUOTE = "jc_denton, post: 11085561, member: 712380"] Can you check whether the 3080 MXM has two or more power monitoring resistors on the back? 1080 had 3 resistors (1 at front, 2 back) that were moddable, while 2080/2080S had 2 on the back of the card.. [/ QUOTE]
     

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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Good stuff, thanks! Looks like it's a 2 resistor setup as the 20x0/S. Modding these shunts will hopefully not trip anything internal and circumvent the DB 2.0 cancer.
     
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    You'll have at least two, one monitoring the slot and one monitoring the aux power connector.
     
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    NP9672M -  X170KM-G  Specs_Page_1.png
    NP9672M -  X170KM-G  Specs_Page_2.png

    The X170KM-G - NP9672M is now released. Who would like to make a Owners Lounge for this model or do ones feel it should stay here? Thanks.
     
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