*** Official Clevo x7200 and Sager NP7280 owners lounge ***

But he didn't play Mafia, which tripped Speedy Gonzalez' psu. He merely used the game's inboard benchmark.
Still cause for concern untill this is looked into and fixed.

 

Well, I've had my NP7280 for just over a week and wanted to give my impressions.

My first 4 days were somewhat waisted trying to get a pair of Crucial C300 256GB drives to work. They would not function correctly with the X7200. I replaced them last Friday with a pair of X25-M 160GB Intel. They are running perfect since then.

I'm running Win 7 64-bit, 980X, 12GB RAM, 2x 160GB SSDs, 750GB normal HD, single 480M.

I'm a software developer by trade and this is my main development machine. I work in VS2010 and have some large projects that take over a minute to compile on normal machines. On this machine it's maybe 5-10 seconds.

So, far mine has not tripped the PSU. I have ran the Intel tuning tool to stress the machine for 30 minutes at 100% load and it never tripped the PSU. I have seen it fail to boot when plugged into my USB external expander, but I think that is a driver issue. If I plug that in after booting it runs fine.

I have ordered an extra PSU to leave at work. I hope if there is an issue Sager addresses for ALL users and not just ones with SLI.

This unit is replacing my last rig which was an NP9262. That laptop is still running 100%. Just needed more RAM. It was already pretty fast, but this NP7280 is just stupid fast. I have found it helps make get more done. Being that I'm paid by the hour and foot the bill for this rig, I sometimes wonder if that's a good decision..

With VS2010 bringing alot more tools to the party for doing parallel tasks, this 980X is the perfect testbed for designing. I have seen a 6-7 fold increase in some tasks when bringing all cores into play. But some other tasks will not see much of a gain. If it's not a very tight loop doing some high end math, I have not seen much of a gain.

I don't regret buying this laptop. I have faith in Sager to address this issue.

 

You have not tripped the security circuits of the psu because you have only 1 GTX 480M, and well within the nominal 300W delivery of the psu.
And it would be Clevo that will have to fix things, not Sager. Sager is just a reseller.

 

I also stress mine with the intel tuning tool, (mines at 3.75ghz at moment) and played Dirt 2 and Starcraft 2 on full ultra settings and havent trip my PSU.

However i nearly tripped over the PSU coz its sooo big! Lol

 

It may take a couple specific titles to get the PSU to trip... Either way you should not have a PSU that is running beyond the maximum load all the time and on the verge of shutting down at any given moment ...

Its good though that Clevo and Sager are fully aware of this problem and its only a matter of time now before they find a solution..

Good news for them is they dont have hundreds of thousands of machines out there yet so even if they have to recall the PSUs and replace them its still early in the game so the cost/loss to them will be minimal ..

Glad you are enjoying that machine Sgh77 and for what you paid you certainly deserve to have a 100% stable machine .

 

after reading the review, the psu able to go up to 410w, which is cool, so i guess full upgrade of 980xm and 2 sli 480m still have some spare room for the psu.

this machine should not be tripping the psu shut as long use normally and not doing something like fumark

 

Something like Furmark is what matters here. You don't want to find yourself in a mess when some more demanding games appear and trip your PSU.

 

Totally agreed. The laptop either works under ANY scenario or it does not. For some reason every laptop manufacturer seems to try to cut a corner with the PSU (Alienware is guilty here as well)

I guess they think they are fooling us or something.....

 

i really hope nvidia could engineer better performance in term of the power consumption usage. O well lets see what they could show in the next season

 

It was never any secret that performance per watt would be atrocious for Fermi. Their goal was raw performance - which the achieved. The GTX 470m and GTX 460m use much more efficient GPU revisions that will greatly alleviate this however.

I do not blame nvidia for this problem however...the shortcoming of the psu is purely the fault of Clevo

 

Excuse my ignorance, but is furmark really a good tool to test every gpu, including the newest architectures? Here is what I mean: Some may remember there was a bug with SC2 (menus) causing gpus to overheat. It was a piece of the SC2 code that was poorly written. This is just to illustrate that poor or, say, potentially unsuitable code can cause issues even if the hardware itself is flawless in general. I am not saying this is the case with the furmark tool, but it is still something to take into account. What brings me to such thoughts, is that furmark stress is considered rather unrealistic by most users, even though there are quite some games that too put very heavy load on the gpu (which is then the realistic case). I am well aware that furmarks get updated every once in a while and that many different systems do not have problems with it, but this does not exclude the case with the newest mobile platforms from nVidia (or ATI) or does it?

 

All FurMark does is use OpenGL code to make sure that your GPUs are 100% utilized in order to see if they remain stable. This is the same as an unoptimized menu in SC2 that causes the GPUs to go to 100% usage and then heatup. If the hardware is indeed flawless, then even at 100% it will run rock solid. If there is a flaw however, this usage scenario will often expose it. The simplest things to diagnose with FurMark are heat and power draw. Things like computational stability have to be determined case by case as an overclock may be stable in one program and not stable in another.

 

ok

how can you afford these laptops

what do you guys do for work


and can you give a young guy advice in life

edit.

if a laptop gpu can play crysis maxed, why bother getting a better setup

 

I'm a high school student that's doing a part time job for the x7200. So yeah, anyone can have enough money to buy this thing.
And there are more demanding games than crysis... and when people talk about maxed graphics, most of the time they are not including AA/AS.

 

Joined navy, saved money

And how can you call yourself an enthusiast if you dont always strive for the best, and make it better?

 

A lot of people have this laptop (or a comparable one) because they made it a priority to them. Most people have the money they just prioritize it towards other things.

A lot of people with highend laptops that I know of are deployed military who use their deployment bonus to get a good laptop to take overseas with them.

 

nurse anesthesia. it's a kickass profession.

 

How i afford it ? Because i sale


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That is M for Mexico...what are you talking about.....lol

 

That's a classic one speedy!!

 

Has anybody run Unigine Heaven on it yet? Can't wait to see results...

 

For most people an X7200 is necessary for work and therefore and investment or it is a total luxury item. Keep in mind that less than 1% of the people on our planet want or need a computer that is this powerful and most of them that get a computer this powerful get a desktop because they cost about half as much. For the price of this computer you could buy a great desktop and a good notebook and have money left over.

I would guess there are less than 50 people on this forum that are considering getting an X7200. There might be 1000 people that are not on the forum that are considering getting an X7200. Since there are almost 10,000,000,000 people on our planet, that means that you are one of the 99.999999% of people who can't afford or don't want to afford an X7200. In this way you are exactly like almost everyone else. So don't feel left out if you can't afford a X7200. Instead, you should feel lucky if you have enough food and if you have access to electricity, you are better off than more than half the people on the planet.

How do people getting X7200's afford them? All the usual ways. The studied hard in school and got good jobs or work real hard or buy a x7200 even though they really should be saving for a car or moving away from their parents house. In my case, I got a BS degree and then worked hard for twenty years. I saved a lot and invested aggressively in the stock market. Now I'm retired and can afford things like this. I would get a good desktop but travel back and forth to a mountain cabin and just want to have one computer that is good at games and photoshop.

Sorry about the long winded answer but that is what old retired guys do.

dt

 

I think that is a superb answer. Just out of curiosity was that a Bachelor's of Science degree or just a "BS" degree, like my humanities degree (thankfully from a top tier school.)

 

I totally agree Dug, however, I think you would be surprised how many of these will sell. Far more than your estimated 1050

EASILY more than 50 of them on this forum alone, probably a couple hundred. Not everyone is active as alot of the members here are. You would have your mind blown by how many M17x's Dell has sold (granted they publicize a little more)

 

Thanks, CalBear!

I thought humanities degrees were always Bachelor of Arts degrees?

Mine was a real B of Science degree from UCD but is in Food Service Mgt so not all that scientific.

 

Scook9, my wild guess forecast of x7200 sales was based on people arranging to buy and x7200 real soon but I should have said that.

My wild guess forecast of x7200 sales worldwide for the coming twelve months is 3k-8k. I know that is a wide range but the figures aren't in yet for Yemen or Kenya. :-0

 

They've been selling preconfigured m17x's in Best Buy for a while now, at least the ones in my area - I was surprised to see them in the store.

Then again, I was surprised to find myself in a Best Buy too.

 

hey all got mine yesterday, runs great, she is a beauty and a beast all at the same time. Question, the sound seems awful quiet, and the only speakers working are the ones directly under the screen. ( I assume the perforated areas next to the power button are speakers). I thought i read something about some one else with sound issues but i can't seem to find the post. If any one knows the fix to this please enlighten me.

thanks for your time.

 

You have to go switch on 5.1 in the sound manager

 

Is there a notebook yet to get WEI 7.9? I bet this one can...

 

More importantly, who cares? That is probably the worst benchmark out right now....

 

will this thing run wprime1.55 12 threads without tripping the power supply?

want to see how high it will over clock without messing with the gpus.

 

As long as it's a mark, someone will want to bench it

 

its 7.8 stock, OC im sure someone could break the 7.9

 

Just wanted to answer the guy who said who can afford the x7200. I have a much better answer. 90 percent of the people that buy it can't afford it so don't feel bad.
The chinese banks own most of the x7200 sold, they are whats holding up our banks that are lending people money to buy things they cant afford.

 

For reference on WEI, my DESKTOP (in sig) gets like a 7.6 lol

And it is sooooo weak....

 

@scook9 who cares about WEI scores sometimes you turn off your pc and when you power it on again the scores are different

you know what i am talking about

 

I do, that is why I called it a horrendous joke. It just makes people think something is wrong with their computer when it is not a high number. Way to go microsoft......

 

Real time bench lol

 

What does the chinese bank have to do with this? You already trolled in four threads, seriously, are you related to bwebcoder or something?

 

Ya that is really some hard core trolling going on in that post haha

 

Thats why i said he was back under a different name ..

 

no two people are alike in this world

 

4th different name to be exact

 

Two people can be alike if they get the same score on vantage lol

 

It is a BA, but as my dad says it is also "BS". lol

 

Sorry I didn't get your joke the first time!

 

Did this prime as well as another prime stock with some other stress stuff. This was at totally stock settings. Will try more later to push it. Absolutely no issues at all with furmark or wprime 12 threads regarding the PSU, stability and such.

 

Nice score, Hemi!
Could you please run this tool and post a screenie?
This will tell us how good the drivers are in 2D acceleration.
Thanks

 

May want to find that in English Aikimox