*** Official Clevo x7200 and Sager NP7280 owners lounge ***

whatever route works hey?

i like to mess with stuff. if it breaks.. oh well... moving a scene foreword is what i think is cool. don't want to go to much into stuff. we will see what happens when i get my new beast.

this is just a hobby. get to the bleeding edge.. and watch the blood pour.

 

I do enjoy making laptops bleed!

 

Is that when they actually start melting and the drops are falling on your floor?

 

well my x7200 got shipped today. not bad 3 days then shipped. now just gotta wait the 10 or so days for it to arrive

 

Started here... Lets go!

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...al-bench-thread-x7200-np7280.html#post6806167

 

oh, dont get me wrong..we ARE waiting on you to get it. since no one else has seemed to beat out our beloved resellers machines yet...lol. and since the psu cuts out at about 360 watts or so...is not a whole lot of head room, but when you get yours...at least run a few single gpu test for full speed..

also..sager/clevo dont work like dell...they may frown if you "burn" a 950 dollar card up!.lol dont think they will be letting you test/burn 4k in cards....now....i could be wrong though...lol

 

no worries mate. I will post single GPU tests too. I will have lots of detailed threads coming up soon.

I didn't claim warranty on those cards on my dell. I paid cash for all replacements.. i had like 6 or 7 in the end.. after buying the first 2 cards new.. i started to look for fried ones.. then did a reflow with mah trusty weller portasol. then tested on those..

I don't doubt the psu ceiling. not for a minute.. since the TDP is high when you add it all together.. I have dealt with hitting beyond PS specs though.. on my m1710.. when it was all said and done the 7950 gtx i was running was beating all other mobiles... until the next gen came out. but It cost me a pretty penny.. and 3 psu. it topped out needing a 150w psu. and I had to back off because the 3rd psu I blew was a 150w custom.

can't wait for my beast.

 

Hey some (3) of my cpu pins on my mainboard are bent do some one of you also got this problem??

HEELP

 

3 of your pins are bent huh....it didnt happen when you tried taking the cpu out of the socket, did it..since that happen to allot of people before.

and take a picture of the socket, because those pins can be fixed if they aren't bent to bad.

 

Dayam! Can you post a pic? When it happened to me I used a pin to move them carefully back into place

 

Oh ok than I can apply a whole new one if it's unusuall !

 

The pins were bent when I bought it. my reseller knew that!

 

What!? What are they gonna do about it? The cpu still works with the bent pins?????

 

really?
who is the reseller...would sure like to hear their side of the story.

 

+1 this sounds weird.. please post a picture so we can see what you are talking about.

 

I bought the Notebook from MySn it was a showcase Modell. I recieved it for about a month without CPU, RAM, HDD so I have to put the compounds in by my selfe.

When I opend the case I saw that 3 Pins on the CPU- Socket where crooked. But when I put in my CPU it still works.

I called my reseller and told it to him. He said he knew about that and he want's to wait untill the other models from clevo come to check if its normal.

So if my reseller is telling me that it's "normal" I don't know if he is lying to me
so I wanted to ask some other owners.

I think mysn must send me a new model, also I heard about a update at the cooling system and I think I need this too!

Sry my cam isn't that good to resolute the small pins clearly.

Do you think that this is a reason to send it back, because who knews when the pins get broken or something else happen ?!?

 

if that is the case...it's best to send it back.
warranty usually does not cover bent pins or they charge you to either replace the socket or attempt to fix the bent pins. with no guarantee that it will work correctly afterwards.

 

It absolutely is not normal! It is also unacceptable in my book. I think they should gladly exchange or replace it for you if this is the case...

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side note:

if it's open box...not sure why they didn't state that before you bought the machine.

as babyhemi said...that would be unacceptable.

 

My reseller told me that he tested the system for it's stability with other kollegs as witness, but what is if the book gets broken in about 1 or 2 years?

I it acceptable that the reseller say he has done a test ??

 

you kind of misunderstanding this...
1: nothing wrong with them testing it and it testing fine. - not the problem
2: if they told you before hand about the bent pins and you still bought it - still not a problem
3:if they replace it when new ones come in - not a problem
4:waiting to see if the new machines come factory certified with bent pins - A BIG PROBLEM!
5: a year later you try to collect on your warranty - A BIG PROBLEM. almost no one is accepting bent/broken or burnt pins as a valid warranty. that goes for fried circuits on the motherboard as well.(speculation as to who you go through) (usually up to the tech working on your machine that day)

 

Make sure you do all your communication by email so you have it all in writing and have legal proof of their admittance.

 

no they don't told me before buying the notebook.

i also got an engeneering sample of my gtx 480 and not an usuall one or is this mark on the gpu normal

 

oh...wow....

i would give it back for a legit one.

 

easy to say, but what do you do if the reseller told you that the gpu works so he has no reason for exchange?

 

as long as you have warranty on the parts and an agreement with the reseller that they knew (in writing) that the pins were bent before hand.. and if something happens and you have to send it back... they will take it. then that's ok.. this sounds strange..

why didn't you get a new notebook? did you get a deal on it? as is...? perhaps?

 

hummm...considering it's illegal to sell an ES anything as retail (USA that is..not sure about your country since allot of ES chips come out of there..lol)

and that gtx480m you say SAY's ES on it...pretty much violates that law. (USA. not sure about your country)

but can i ask you this....are you fishing for a solution using us here...for a purchasing mistake made because of the "you can't beat this price...it's so good i had to get it" deal?
and now that things might not be going well..looking to get it exchanged?

 

wow, that's right. it is illegal to sell an ES. it's in the TOS with the person whom sent it to them. It's the same here in canada.. and common sense.. you would think it would be the same in any Westernish Nation...

 

Here are my somewhat uneducated opinions about this. If the CPU works when it is plugged into the socket, it will continue to work at least until it gets unplugged and why unplug it again unless upgrading, in which case it doesn't matter.

I would plug it in and if it works, ask the seller for compensation for the bent pins. Half of the price of a new CPU sounds fair to me. This way you will probably come out ahead in the short and long run. If it does fail in a couple of years, you could replace it for half the price of a new one today. If not, the seller might be willing to help you out.

 

@ Upper1


Das kann ich garnicht glauben. Ich habe mysn mehrmals nach billigen ES Grafikkarten gefragt. Sie wollten mir nie eine Grafikkarte verkaufen. Bilder?

Ich kaufte ein X8100 Ausstellungsgerät von der Games Convention. Mysn sagte im Voraus das dieses Gerät Gebrauchsspuren hat. 12 Monate Garantie. Dafür war das Notebook preiswert. Du bekommst was du zahlst.

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I can not believe at all. I have asked mysn several times for cheap ES graphics cards. They never wanted to sell me a ES video card. Pictures?

I bought a X8100 exhibition device from the Games Convention. MySN said in advance that this device has signs of wear. 12 month warranty. But the laptop was cheap. You get what you pay for.

 

Mine is being delivered tomorrow! Looking forward to joining on some test with you guys.

 

I believe these cpu come without pins, the pins are all on the motherboard, easy to bend them when they drop the cpu on them while insertion or extraction.

 

@ Upper1
How much did you pay for it? For a show model with ES chips, I would imagine that you have a huge Sonderangebot...

 

I thought you can sell ES things personally?

 

You can but not as retail.

 

Oh ok. Somehow I have the idea of "most show models have ES stuff in them".

 

what company in the US of A is selling an es cpu or gpu machine for retail???????????
killernotebooks not included.
and this is an open sale...not a secret handshake deal in a back room or over the phone using no names..lol

 

^^^nobody---as far as i've ever read or heard that would be stupid!

 

pretty much so.

 

Also, ich habe 1990€ bezahlt für das Barebone mit:
+ gtx 480m (entwickler version)
+ WLAN 6300N (mit lediglich 72Mbit übertragung statt 450, ja ich habe einen Hotspot mit mehr als 72MBit!)
+ bluray (read only) Laufwerk.

Im vertrag steht leichte Gebrauchsspuren, doch für mich sind die genannten Punkte nicht nur "leichte gebrauchsspuren" die kleinen Kratzer sind für mich ja überhauptskein problem genauso wenig wie das veramschte sicherheits "loch"

Ich habe jetzt einen Termin beim Rechtsanwalt am 28.10. dann wird sich rausstellen was mysn muss und was nicht.

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Okay, I've paied 2753$ for a barebone with this konfiguration:
+ GTX 480m (engeneering sample)
+ WLAN 6300N (with only 72Mbit transferrate instead of 450, and yes my hotspot supports more than 72Mbit!)
+ Bluray Read only drive

In the agreement is written that the notebook shows light usage marks, but I think that the problem which where shown up are not only simply marks of "light usage". The other scratches and the little bit destroyed securelock don't matter to me. This is something what I understand for "light usage marks"

I've made a date with my advocate at 28. of oktober, then we will see what mysn must have to do and what not

 

Has any 7200 owner tried tampering with the XMP profiles in their memory (namely Kingston hyperX modules)? I have some modules rated at 1866 mhz laying here, which won't work with my M17x (even though I edited the JEDEC/boot-up timings), but should work with the x7200 with its XTU compatibility...

 

Seriously thinking about this memory but you could only have 6gigs max memory, not enough for me, but it should be sweet for OC'ing, will have to stick with my 12gigs corsair 1333mhz.

I pm'd another x7200 member on here, he has the 1600mhz kingstons and they work on the lappy, but he has trouble oc'ing via xtu apparently.

I'm lucky as my 980x can be oc'ed to 4ghz nicely via multiplier only via xtu, stable, LOVE this flipping lappy!

 

I think I've made up my mind. I'm buying an x7200, when the Mobility 6870s come out.

 

We need to remember (and I need to keep reminding myself... ) that we owners have a true cutting edge, or bleeding edge laptop in the x7200. In a short time things will be figured out and sorted out...

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exactly what i've been saying.. it's clevo's flagship. they won't let us down.

 

i was saying that exact same thing with my d901c....right when clevo (not sager or anyone else) flat out told me..no! we are not changing the bios...lol

but i have faith in them...i think they are finally on the right path with this model.

 

btw Lawtq,

you're in the UK right? is your adapter Power Plug the 3 Pin type or?
mine is using the 3 Pins Power sockets.. hope it came with 3 pins or i need a adapter for it

 

Yes it is the usa 3 pin type, I have the 3 pin plugged into a UK adaptor no problem

 

You just get the plug (power cord) off a desktop for your region as the PSU has the same end as your desktop. (eg.. The back of a desktop where you plug a power cord into it is the same as the back of the PSU)


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d idea lol, never though of that