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    *** Official Clevo x7200 and Sager NP7280 owners lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by italian.madness, May 26, 2010.

  1. SacredDreams

    SacredDreams Notebook Evangelist

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    Oh alright thanks!! :)
     
  2. Justin@XoticPC

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    For those interested the 460M is being released for order tonight and available end of October.
     
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    Fixed for ya there Justin...
     
  4. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    No Sager is releasing the 460M on the 7280 (X7200) as we were recently updated by Sager.

    EDIT: Clevo has not approved the 470M on the X7200 as of now, and there is no firm schedule.
     
  5. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    The 470M is not at this time available for the this model.
    Yes the 460M single and SLI is available now for the x7200-NP7280.
     
  6. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    Now an option for a simultaneous 1 GTX 480M 1GB and 1 GTX 460M 1.5GB used for Dedicated Physx. (See Attached Benchmarks)
     

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    ashveratu Notebook Evangelist

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    It's nice to see more options, but I am still planning on SLi 480Ms :D

    Actually, I think it is really frickin cool that you can put a 460 in for physx and a 480 for main graphics in a lappy. That just just plain rocks. It almost makes me want to get one configured like that for its uniqueness..
     
  8. physib

    physib Notebook Evangelist

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    You do realize those performance improvements still can't justify the price for a 460M...
     
  9. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    sometimes.. it's about having the best. especially if money is no object to you.
     
  10. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Wow, SLI 460Ms are an amazing value. There's no longer any logic in taking the 480Ms.
     
  11. Darkhan

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    Agree 100%!
     
  12. SacredDreams

    SacredDreams Notebook Evangelist

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    It's time to place your orders!!
     
  13. ackack47

    ackack47 Notebook Geek

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    with cpus such as these... why not dedicate physx to the cpu and leave the gpus to do their own thing? since the gpus are the weakpoint in this laptop why make them work harder. im speaking for sli of the same card of course, if you buy a single 460 for physx then so be it...
     
  14. physib

    physib Notebook Evangelist

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    Talking about selling points...
     
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    dugt Notebook Consultant

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    It is my understanding that when you have two gpu's in SLI, you don't get the effect of having double the GPU memory. Therefore, are there applications where having one 480 with 2 GB of memory would be better than two 460's with 1 GB of memory?
     
  16. physib

    physib Notebook Evangelist

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    If you are doing professional rendering then yes it matters. For gaming even 1G is enough.
     
  17. ackack47

    ackack47 Notebook Geek

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    Well I got my x7200 a few days ago, put win7 on it and was loving it, been playing some Medal of Honor and Minecraft and it was running great then... Just tried to boot it up today and now it wont post. It constantly restarts after about 12 seconds. Screen never turns on and the power lights turn on along with the fans during that period then off after 12 seconds and turns back on about 2 seconds later. Idk what to do now. Tried unplugging the psu and battery and plugging it back in. Can't return it now, we dont have outgoing shipping at the moment on my base. Anybody else have this happen to them?
     
  18. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    pull the ram and try 1 chip at a time. process of elimination..
     
  19. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    Before you pull ram , while you're in that compartment, take out the cmos battery next to the ram for 10 minutes or so.
     
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    Thanks, physib.

    Maybe a 1G video card is enough for me. I do not render video but I do a lot of Photoshopping (CS5 and LR) of 17 MB photo's. Do you think I would benefit from a 2G memory card(s) or should 1G be enough?
     
  21. ackack47

    ackack47 Notebook Geek

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    Yeah ram idea didnt work, tried one at a time, each slot and combos of two. gonna do the cmos battery now
     
  22. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    if the cmos don't work.. i would open her up and reseat the processor and video cards.. pull all other stuff.. and again.. one at a time..
     
  23. ackack47

    ackack47 Notebook Geek

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    already did that, tried each gpu in the master slot, checked the cpu, everything looks good. nothing bent or dirty. another 4 minutes...

    also, whats this slot thats just above the wifi card and to the left of the cmos battery?
     
  24. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    prob a mini pci slot?

    you might have to do an RMA my friend.. :( if you have tried all of the above.. i mean.. all you can do is process of elim.. and make sure every fan is plugged in and seated.. battery is unplugged.. even hard drives...

    worst case you could have had a screw lose and it shorted? i have seen this.
     
  25. ackack47

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    for something like Intel turbo memory?
     
  26. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    i dunno. maybe get a hold of service manual.
     
  27. ackack47

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    dang dude... the battery idea worked, thanks man.
     
  28. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    no worries mate.

    have it checked out still.. over phone if possible voip from where you are? if you can.. could be battery or terminals.. check to see if it's leaking any fluid..

    i have seen many bad batteries too in my day.
     
  29. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    Err, my idea wasnt it lol?

    Prey tell, did your starting problems happen after you tried to OC via xtu by any chance?
     
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    i still think it's the xtu...it's not ready for prime time like they hoped.

    how in the hell does a laptop need 300 watts and 190 amps to the cpu :eek: that is just crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    that xtu is broken if you ask me....my classified/intel board or gigabyte board dont use that much to the cpu..even my phase change is tuned to remove like 230 watts of heat...and your pushing close to 300 in a cpu that can run off a 150 watts....pretty much all the way up to 4 ghz. on stock voltage (3.8 to be safe)


    clevo needs to address that.


    but to be fair...anyone running a single card with 980x?
    has a kill o watt meter.
    and will need to remove that battery.

    then we can see just how many watts that cpu is pulling at stock.(a pretty good guess rather)
     
  31. ackack47

    ackack47 Notebook Geek

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    oh, thanks to you then

    and no it wasnt by OCing it, last thing i did was remove the cpu/gpus and apply AC5 to them. worked fine, temps were way better, then next day... yeah...
     
  32. ackack47

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    Dissabling SLI would be the same right? I can could try it if thats the case.
     
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    need to pull the card out...it still sucks like 35 watts when not in use.
    you'll need to turn all the lights off and the screen to it's lowest dimm setting..

    but we can still try with sli disabled.

    let the computer sit idle for like a few minutes...just to get an idea where the idle watts are at.
     
  34. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    i will try this,
    i have a kilowat meter
    980x single 480m

    XTU is broken for sure, the heat caused by having to ramp up the max amps and watts is silly
     
  35. Johnksss

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    cool...it's time for us to start finding work arounds till they can get the correct fixes in place.
     
  36. GTO_PAO11

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    sorry for noob question but what is xtu?
     
  37. Johnksss

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    the software used to control the bios settings.(oh yeah..and over clock your cpu.. :))
     
  38. ackack47

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    Is anyone using drivers other than the ones that came with it? I'm wondering if any Laptopvideo2go drivers work yet.
     
  39. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    Doing what you suggested: Hope this is what you meant

    Stock everything system idles between 91-95w
    Using lix 0.6.4 problem size of 32717 (8gb memory) stock 980x pulls 224-228w

    Now the same senario but with my 4ghz OC, 1.3125v is using 338-342w! Way above the psu spec.

    So stock cpu stressed is using around 130w
    4ghz cpu stressed is using around 250w, a little bit on the high side no?
     
  40. Johnksss

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    hummmmm.
    and is that the lowest votlage you can use?

    next test up:
    run msconfig.exe and hit advanced options. set cpu to 8. then reboot. doing the exact same thing you just did.

    thanks in advanced.
     
  41. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    Will do, and yes, the 4ghz OC voltage of 1.3125 is lowest I can use
     
  42. Johnksss

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    that is actually a pretty good voltage though... :)
     
  43. ackack47

    ackack47 Notebook Geek

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    [​IMG]
    New Comp

    Just took a few pics when I took my computer apart. The other guy I work nights with called me a "total nerd" for taking pictures, haha. sorry for the low lighting... Hope the link works
     
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  44. lawtq

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    Stock everything system idles between 91-97w with 8 threads
    Using lix 0.6.4 problem size of 32717 (8gb memory) stock 980x pulls 183-190w

    Now the same senario again but with 8 threads 4ghz OC, 1.3125v is using 244-248w stressed and the same idle loads as above, it still needs the silly amps and watts setting in xtu to achieve 4ghz
     
  45. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    Wonderfull pics!!!

    Sli just looks so right, there is a huge hole where my 2nd gpu should be :(
    Still hate the cover over that chipset heatsink fan, gonna save your pics and use them for my reference
     
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  46. ackack47

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    Why thank you, some of the pics kinda look, dramatic, haha. Took it with my new $1000 camcorder. I would take some 1080p video to go along with your screen res but... my up speed is literatly dial up speeds.
     
  47. lawtq

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    lol, mine too, its why I havent youtubed yet. My panasonic hdc-tm700 is full of video footage of this lappy, the unboxing, insides, benchmarks etc, lol, shame one small clip will take a week to upload.

    God I envy your sli, was that liquid metal you were using as thermal compound?

    So stylenote are finally selling this eh? They have 470m's as a slection, do you know if its actually in stock by any chance?
     
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    yep. your a nerd!.
    lol
    but so are most of now adays...hahaha
    huummmm, looks like a temp fix right there...run 4/8 and it knocked off 100 watts!. dayuuuuuuuuuuuuum! :eek:
     
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    Now that I think about it, sometimes my laptop won't even boot up if some USB cables are connected. Not exactly sure the reason behind it lol
     
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    i have seen that with some devices.. mostly hdd's. particularly... i've seen that on the box i'm typing on. it auto-detects usb hdd chassis/drives and tries to boot from them... dunno about mice and other devices.
     
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