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That's really a waste of time and money. Just get two of whichever chip you want in SLI.

 

You can use the GXT 460m for Physx and the GTX 480m for gaming. Because PhysX does lower game performance when done on the same GPU as the 3d gaming.

The GTX 460m would still be overkill though, you could in theory get away with just a GTX 260m (which should fit - I know that at least Alienware sells MXM 3 GTX 260m's). You could also get a Clevo GTX 280m/285m which would be more likely to work. They should start showing up on eBay somewhat cheap (in the $300 range)

 

When this was discussed a few pages back, someone recommended assigning PhysX to the CPU because the CPU has excess capacity compared to any GPU.

 

That would work if physx was coded well for the CPU....but it is not. Nvidia has kept it crippled so that it only runs well on a GPU despite the fact that a CPU could easily handle the calculations.

Personally....I do not miss PhysX, it adds almost nothing to games and is not worth it

 

I was wondering the same thing; good to know

 

Add in the fact that so few games use PhysX, and you have a GTX 460M just idling most of the time. Then you feel dumb, having spent enough on that single GTX 480M to have had 460M SLI and a nice SSD. Plus there's still a little bit left for the strippers and blackjack.

Strippers and blackjack > 480M. Clearly. I rest my case.

 

Well folks, I took the leap.
Np7280
i7 980X
GTX 480 Sli
12 gig of ram 1333 MHz
80 gig SSD and 500 gig HDD at 7200rpm
Blu Ray reader.

Massive Overkill. LMAO!

 

Wow!! Welcome onboard!

 

Nice system specs! Congrats!

 

Thanks guys. I was debating on getting the 460s but I don't plan on overclocking so I figure why not get the best cards for it now?

Fallout NV is gonna be SWEET!

 

no doubt. but did they get the bugs ironed out?

 

Only bugs I have heard of were when the PSU trips because of too much power draw. It's seems to only happen when people overclock and run multiple demanding benchmarks at the same time. Either way, the Np7280 is on backorder till the middle of this month so they might be revising something.

Oh, I think you ment fallout NW lol! There has been a patch released a few days ago but I don't know the details as of yet. Some people has said the patch has cleared some problems but not all. I gotta do some more research on that.

 

I would not not be ordering with i7-980X + 480M SLI, until Clevo releases a larger PSU. Why pay for power you can't use?

 

Because when you can use it, it will be a huge pain to get it back

 

i concur!
dont let that be an excuse not to buy.
if you dont over clock..the thing runs as it was intended to. over cocking is a benefit, not a must have feature.

there are ways around the power draw issue for the time being....whether you choose to use them...is entirely up to you.

 

If you want to stop into our store in Nebraska you are always more then welcome to. What usually differs between sellers is support. Some of the resellers bundle 24/7 Phone Support and Extra Labor Warranties where others do not.

Regarding the power issue Sager is looking into this and there should be a update soon on this.

 

Hi folks

Anyone have any insight as to why I can't seem to hold an overclock when my system boots the second time?
I can tweak the system in XTU and it will reboot with the new settings the first time andrun everything stable Prime 95 etc. As soon as I power down or restart it either does the reset post to defaults or just loops and I have to remoce the darn CMOS battery. I narrowed it down to something memory related, and I think it isn't keeping my timings when I reboot the second time after changing with XTU. I tested this theory by lowering my multiplier to 18x at a 160 mhz host clock frequency, and it does the same thing. I'm running 1333 memory and an 950 CPU I've had it running prime 95 full stable at 4.2 ghz before rebooting. Any ideas?

Bueler.... Bueler?!

Thanks

 

well.. got my system! yay!.. but i forgot the thing needed ddr3.. ugh!

luckily i'm going to the city tomorrow and can pick up some..

 

why the 930 when the 950 can be had for the exact same price?

 

^^^I think he got a barebones...
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hello justin.first of all,thank you for providing great customer service support to your customers. your employee hutsady did a tremendous job on helping me on my purchase(the x7200).my status states that my unit is going to the nebraska store.

i want to ask,if my x7200 unit is at my home already and sager offered the solution to the psu unit(e.g sli psu), can i order at your store or what is the protocol?

 

The SLI 460M's started shipping yesterday, so we hope to see some numbers here very soon...
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yuppers! i am a diy'er. just what i had layin around.

 

great,so you got your system. please use it asap and OC it to the max.let me know what problems you encounter etc...

oh yeah,if you got crysis,can you play it on high(not ultra) on max res and tell me the fps you got?

 

Thank you for your kind words. Glad to hear Hutsady helped you with your questions.

You are exactly right you can easily order from our website or contact us and we can provide you with any additional items you are interested in.

 

no worries on that. I have to put some ram into it first. then get winblows on it.. and then feel her out. i got crysis. and x3 and morrowind with the graphics extender. that one really really benches your system.

in time..

 

any gtx 470m sli options? is gtx 470m better than 480m?

 

At this time unfortunately there are no plans for the 470M.

 

Toms Hardware did a decent review of the x7200 and compare it to a spec'd out M17x as well

Is That A Notebook? MALIBAL's Six-Core, Dual-GPU, Speed Demon : Incomparable Performance?

Give it a read

They also point out what an abysmal failure the GTX 480m is since the desktop GTS 450 (CHEAP CARD) is higher performing while using the same power......

 

I think this review showed why you need bigger power supply and overclocking is necessary for gtx480m (because its very low clock rate).

 

atleast it destroys all other offerings of notebooks.. and especially xfire.

 

No one ever doubted that it would destroy all other notebooks. That was expected. The only downside to the x7200 is that the price of the GTX 480m is a complete and utter joke. In the past the argument has been that the mobile chips cost more because they are engineered to achieve lower power usage, but the GTS 450 (which is a $120 card.....) uses the same power as the GTX 480m while performing better. And did I mention it is a hell of a lot cheaper? Nvidia really failed here.....not saying it is a weak card, just that nvidia failed miserably.

And there is no point in saying especially xfire, it destroys all other SLI offerings too....the GTX 480m is just a monster compared to anything else on the market. No point in throwing in what is most likely a snipe at Alienwares

 

your right. that wasn't a snipe bud. i've heard this many times before. every time a card comes out it's only a downclocked version of a cheaper desktop counterpart.. that is usually horribly overpriced.

I like that ati can get a lower TDP for what they have.

i guess it is what it is..

we walk a fine line between desktops and laptops here.. sacrifices have to be made to satisfy the form factor..

 

i just want to see one 480m unlocked and pushed to the limits. since this should not be a problem..and the card can draw 150+ watts with out drama from having two cards.

 

Well I have had my x7200 workstation for over a month now, and while I am extremely satisfied, I have some issues.
Specs:
980x
gskill 12gb 1333mhz ram
single 480m
crucial c300 128gb SSD
2x500gb 7200rpm HDD

1st of all, changing any voltages on this machine makes it VERY unstable.

2nd my 480m cant hold an overclock, it always reverts

3rd, my ram keeps getting allocated to Hardware Use, so I have to keep turning max memory on and off

4th, I can overclock to 4ghz by using multipliers, but after extended use i get blue screens. I am using this thing with 60-70% of my ram being used at any time. After about 6 hours of constant use simultaneously running AutoCad Civil 3d 2011, ArcGIS, Photoshop CS5(64bit), Illustrator CS5, Google Earth, Google Sketchup Pro, and sometimes DreamWeaver, I get a timing error or a physical memory dump.
I don't know if the problem is OCing, my ram, windows 7, or something with this computer.
I would greatly appreciate some guidance on this.

Also, when I don't overclock, I dont have issues, maybe I just answered my own question.

 

atm i'm testing the 990x @ x7200
but what settings i have to change in the xtu to overclock stable?
(atm i only oc the memory)
any advices?

 

I'm in the same boat as you almost, spec wise and OC wise. I got no stabilty problems like you mention.

What bios revision are you using? I'm using this one and it rocks, very stable http://74.212.252.103/pages/notebooks/download.cfm?ProductType=7280
What you using to OC the 480m, evga precision OC's mine nicely, hold the OC too no probs.

 

i have a question about the benchmark link in toms hardware

will the i950 + dual 480m gtx have the same performance with the i980 + dual 480m gtx on the crysis and call of duty benchmark( on the high and very high details)?

 

unlock overclock via bios. then you are on your way

 

I would say it should, being that at the highest settings the game is more gpu dependent anyways and if there is a difference it would be very minor. Clock for clock should not be much difference being that most games don't really utilize more than 2 cpu cores anyways.

 

Anyone know if they might enable changing the memorydividers? I'mnot really sure why they didn't. I think that's why I can't go past 150 host clock frequency no matter what voltage I give the uncore. This really sucks. I know I can go higher. I also wonder if maybe the XTU changes the divider when you overclock automatically,but then it gets changed back to default when I reboot the second time. Because i can set higher voltages and overclock after the first xtu reset stable at at least 3.8ghz then reboot and no post. Not sure what's doin there. Would be nice to be able to use a high host clock.

 

anyone help?

 

Default Re: Sager (7280) Clevo (X7200) Power Supply Issues.
i cant understand. according to this link Review Deviltech HellMachine DTX (Clevo X7200) Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

it states crysis on very high no AA but 30.9 fps

but this link Benchmark Results: Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 And Crysis : Is That A Notebook? MALIBAL's Six-Core, Dual-GPU, Speed Demon

crysis with very high 4 xAA 32.9 fps

both have dual 480m gtx sli. whats the catch? does the cpu make the difference?
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yes. it will be pretty much the same.

 

what driver are you guys using for sli? I tried the stock driver and am getting stuttering and vsync issues.. albiet i am new to sli in notebooks.. my d901c only had a single 8800m.

got ram installed.. got win7 up and running.. and drivers. i used the ones that came stock. are there better ones?

thanks

dex

 

I have no issues at all with the below driver...

http://74.212.252.103/Sagernotebook/video/02Video_64NP7280.exe
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thanks i will give them a try.

 

so which benchmark should i follow? the first link shows very high with 4x AA and it shows 32.9fps while the other link shows very high with no AA and it shows 30.9 fps? how can that be the same?

 

Dex,

I am using the 259.51 stock drivers. I have no issues besides a weird graphic artifact in Fallout 3. I attribute the artifact to driver issues.

I am playing. Battlefield 2 BC, L4D2, Civ 5, and Fallout 3.

 

I think one of them result's in Ultra Details setting compared to Very high.
I remember seeing it in that link.
Anyway my notebook will be here by Saturday!
A Big Thanks to BabyHemi!!