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Yet another review:

MALIBAL NINE X7200 Gaming Notebook Reviewed - HotHardware

Problems with the powersupply and cooling have been found in this article.

 

I get reports of users all over the world using the x7200 and other Clevo-Sager offerings and the vast majority say that the Intel SSD's are more consistently stable and have excellent reliability with great speeds.

I was not saying that the current Intel SSD's were the fastest at all. Yes if you can wait, the new upcoming line of G3 Intel SSD's are the way to go...imo......
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Thanks for the link, M8!

Regarding the issues pointed out in the review:

CPU throttling problem:

Most likely resulted from a poor paste job. Most x7200 owners with 980X report no throttling so far. As soon as we receive the first batch of x7200's I'll be able to shed some light on the matter, but at this point I'd ask those who own the extreme config. to do more testing and see if they can reproduce the problem.

PSU tripping:

Is pretty much confirmed by many owners/reviewers. Clevo is well aware of the problem and, as many know, we might get a PSU bridge or BIOS update as possible solutions. Personally, I hope for the former, since BIOS update might limit performance/OC'ing capabilities of the system.

 

@Aikimox so you become notebook retailer ?

 

Yes, 10 char

 

FortNax? Is that a play on Fort Knox? You should ask flextronics if they'll sell you their in house branded designs. I bet they could sell something that closely resembles the M17x.

 

Hi,

Just bought my X7200. i980X and 460M. Very pleased with the machine exept one thing. My CPU starts to throttle when running prime95. It takes about 5 minutes before it starts. My cpu temps are 85C max when it starts to throttle. Should it start to throttle in that temp yet? I used CoreTemp to measure temps.

 

I guarantee that Dell has an exclusive deal with Flex for the M17x design haha

The W840DI however, that you might be able to get.

 

Originally, ForTnax comes from Fornax Technologies. Fornax is a constellation in the southern sky. Its name is Latin for furnace -> Furnace of Technologies. But hiding the Tech part in the middle FORTified the name and also gave some resemblance to Fort Knox, you're right.

Regarding flextronics, awesome idea! We're looking for sources of basic barebones. I'll definitely check that possibility. Thanks!

What thermal paste was used on the CPU? You might need to re-paste it.
Also, does it throttle in games?

That or something else, we don't have to be locked on M17X

 

W840DI was the M17, the 3870s in CF one. Still a very capable notebook and unusually powerful for its price.

 

depends on which reading is 85. if it's the tcase, then chances are pretty good your cores are hitting 100 on at least 2 to 3 of them. if it's all the cores and the tcase is something like 65...you probably dont have enough watts.(speculation of course)

side note:
where is dexgo? his week is up! lol j/k
but seriously..been waiting to see what this machine can do out side of our trusted retailer (babyhemi)
heck, i just want to see what one card can do. since these 470m's seem to be making waves and all...lol

 

I re-pasted it now with Noctua NT-NH11. It didn't change the situation, it still throttles in Prime95 after ~5 minutes. I haven't checked if it throttles in games. But it shouldn't throttle in Prime95 this fast?

 

surprisingly my gtx480m didnt run as hot as i predicted. it was 74'c max when i was playing bfbc2

 

265W was when gaming.

I only have had it for few days, but so far I'm quite positive about the X7200. Bought it for editing machine and little gaming. My configuration is i980X, 460M, 12GB, Intel 80GB SSD and Bluray burner. There is plenty of power for my needs. Screen is bright enough for indoor use, but could be brighter for outdoor use. Color I find little pale compared to IPS panels. Overall it is ok, but could be better considering the price of the X7200. In normal use it quite silent. Only thing that is bothering about the fans is that when completely idle GPU fan kicks in full when reaching ~41C and then when it reaches 36C it goes back to low speed. This could be handled more gradually. So when GPU is stressed to some degree its fan is actually more silent and steady. These are my initial thoughts.

 

Ahh I would like to know about how internet TV works..

 

I read the review from hot hardware. They did not speak highly of Malibal lol

 

Toms Hardware just did an interesting piece on PhysX, they used Mafia II for alot of the tests if anyone is interested.
Analysis: PhysX On Systems With AMD Graphics Cards : Introduction

My take away on it was this:
My CF 5870s in desktop will be receiving the PhysX love that my old 8800 GTS 512MB has to offer lol

 

What kind of RAM does x7200 use?

 

DDR3 SO-DIMM

800 1066 1333 speeds

 

Hmm so how much can I save by ordering a barebone and parts seperately? I calculated and I got around $200.

 

Usually it is just a few hundred and then your warranty is more trouble to manage as well. I got a barebones OCZ whitebook and very much wish I had just gotten the Alienware M17 all the way up to selling the whitebook and actually getting an Alienware M17x

 

They are totally Samsung memory modules M471B series...

BTW...Where are all the owners??? Where are all of the benches??...

 

Hi!

My first Score in 3DMark Vantage with I7-950 and GTX 460M SLI Setup-- 16271 Points! Out of the Box, no tweaks!

Link: ORB - Compare

Regards

 

That CPU does wonderful things for an 06 score!

 

Looks like the GPU score is in line with the stock 5870CF?

 

GPU scores mean nothing in 06 though haha - it is a CPU benchmark more than anything else. The GPUs just set the stage for the CPU to stand on

 

His run was in Vantage not 06. I was commenting to his GPU Vantage score of 13k+.

 

You are absolutely right. I assumed it was 06 from the number haha. ya that is about the same as stock 5870s

That is a my bad.

 

^^ NP! Yeah, from the numbers the first thought is - 3DMark06, lol. I thought so too, then clicked the link and saw a single GPU score.

@ La.Ultima,
Could you please post temps as well?

 

The score is of course artificially high due to physx though....cpu score should be around 20k with that cpu

 

A new bios is released for this beast....

http://74.212.252.103/Sagernotebook/misc/728bv05cs.zip
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So I just ordered the following configuration:

Display: 17.3" 1920 x 1080 FHD LED Backlit Display
Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-950, 8MB L3 Cache, 3.06GHz (Desktop CPU)
Memory: (6GB) 6144MB, PC3-10660/1333MHz DDR3 - 3 SO-DIMM
Graphics Card: Dual NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 460M 1.5GB GDDR5
Hard Drive: 80GB Intel® X25-M SATA2 SSD Drive
Hard Drive 2: 80GB Intel® X25-M SATA2 SSD Drive
Hard Drive 3: 500GB 7200rpm 2.5" SATA 300
RAID: 0 High Performance (Two Hard Drive Configuration)
Optical Drive: 6X Blu-ray Reader 8X DVD+/-R DL Super-Multi Drive
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium; 64-bit
Wireless: Internal 802.11A/B/G/N LAN and Bluetooth Card
Cooling: IC Diamond 7 Thermal Compound, CPU & GPU

I couldn't seeing paying the premium for the 480's so was just wondering if there are any good comparisons of this machine with the 460's vs. 480's. If dell would have let me put an SSD and second 500GB SATA in the configuration I may have gone with the M17x. I do think this machine should have a decent amount of lifespan though so looking forward to getting it.

 

So you have a 460m SLI setup? awesome! play some games and let me know how you get on please~!

 

Hey babyhemi, what are the changes with this bios?

Thanks,

 

If I had to guess, power throttling sadly

 

That just means many or us aren't upgrading anymore..

 

No that means Clevo patch the power issues with a modded bios to prevent the PSU to shut down but they kill the performance in the process to bad Clevo not good business

if somebody is still brave enough to try two power supply's in parallel before updating to this bios they may be able to show the real power of the GTX 480M

 

Yes that's what I meant. If they limit the performance so it won't trip, then too bad I'd rather trip it.

 

Let's hope this is not the case here.

 

FYI I have one of these animals for review.

Core i7-980X 6-core @ 3.33GHz
12GB triple-channel RAM
Dual GTX 480M 2GB in SLI
A-DATA 256GB SSD, 500GB 7200RPM secondary
Intel 6300N

It is one nasty beast.

 

Oh come on review the ***** out of it.

 

Will it come with the new bios? If it has the current bios, it would be really interesting to some of us to see a real demanding benchmark or two with the current bios vs the new bios.

 

Will the PSU issues also affect dual 460's?

 

You should not have any PSU issues with the SLI 460's...

 

Thanks. Have you (or anyone else) done any tests on how the 460's stack up to the 480's. I am assuming that the 480's will be quite a bit faster just haven't heard how much faster.

 

The new bios doesnt limit the power of the system at all, tyring it for a few days now, seems ok.

I saw one change in the bios options (Boot Fail Clean RTC) which allows the system to clear cmos upon 5 failed bootup attempts,(I think?) thus enabling the system to boot, saves pulling the battery lol which I have had to do once

 

Glad to hear it is not limiting you, I know that was a big concern. now going the other direction, does it alleviate the power issues? Can you now max out your system without tripping the PSU? Do realize you are using a single GTX 480m and may not see the same behaviors someone with SLI will

 

I can trip the psu while running prime plus furmark, as I have OC'd the cpu, my psu trips near the 400w range, not bad for a 300w psu. Will try to see if it will trip 2moro with this new bios, I bet it still trips

 

Why does Clevo out of all concerns make the PSU 300W when 130+100+100=330>300?
I know it's a question asked numerous times before, but still..

 

Dont forget they also advertise overclocking as a feature on top of the already 330w, so maybe the answer is they're stupid?