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    *** Official Clevo x7200 and Sager NP7280 owners lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by italian.madness, May 26, 2010.

  1. reaversedge

    reaversedge Notebook Evangelist

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    strange, one my inmates has x7200 almost similar to mine, he has battery issues, i checked on his laptop and its not booting on battery, i tried to unplug the psu and the laptop can run in battery, but when the laptop is off, and the psu is unplugged in the wall and when we try to start the laptop on battery, its not booting up. please advise. also the laptop can show charging and 100 charged as indicated, i think the main problem is the battery cannot start it alone.
     
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    PPPeterCT Notebook Enthusiast

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    My NP7280 does the same thing. It has to be plugged in, or it won't turn on. After it is on, it can be unplugged.
     
  3. reaversedge

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    solved it, i had to push hold the power button about 2-3 seconds. it booted safely.
     
  4. reaversedge

    reaversedge Notebook Evangelist

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    i also read some issues about the bottom part of x7200, one of the vents is blocked? i think that is a legit design from clevo but the reason is why did they block one of the vents?
     
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    yeah, i thought the same thing, just hold it a bit it finally turns on.
     
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    I´m tried to flash the Bios again but it doesnt work.
    The Bios Files on a USB Stick (DOS), Laptop settings to default and restart.

    type "step1" and it begin to write and verify but in a loop it doesnt stop.

    [​IMG]

    After a while i musst push the Battery to stop this.
    Whats the problem?
    Have the Bios a write protection?
     
  7. DGDXGDG

    DGDXGDG Notebook Deity

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    about that i once attempt to open that vent
    but wait
    both cpu & gpu fan directly get air outside and just blow the heatsink only
    so i think that blooked vent let the fan under it take out the hot air inside the machine, the fresh air comes in from two forword vents and hdd cover
     
  8. wadwad214

    wadwad214 Notebook Geek

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    resellers, any info on availability of 485M and / or 485M SLi? no more NDA right? i mean, its on the nvidia site already. details please? :)
     
  9. leo88

    leo88 Newbie

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    Notebookcheck has even posted the review. They tested Clevo 150HM with SB i7 2920XM and GTX 485M.

    Here is the link
    Review Nvidia Geforce GTX 485M graphics card - Notebookcheck.net Reviews
     
  10. DGDXGDG

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    今日得到蓝天工厂内部信息 在2月底即将正式量产搭配块GTX485M显卡的CLEVO X7200笔记本 支持最高I7 990X的台式机六核心处理器:
    an inside information about mass production at the end of February with the GTX485M CLEVO X7200 graphics card supports up to I7 990X notebook's six-core processor desktop

    485m 470m heatsink are the same
    u can buy a barebone system diy yourself
    or have to wait until clevo fully tested+debug+announce then the resellers then put it in customization

    485m sli $1570
    6970m cf $912
    = =|||
     
  11. earthlings.com

    earthlings.com Notebook Geek

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    Why aren't they releasing the GTX 5xxm series?
     
  12. cookinwitdiesel

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    Because they do not need to to beat ATI
     
  13. reaversedge

    reaversedge Notebook Evangelist

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    they should sell out some 485 cookies first, nvidia can't just put down the cards, it will all come down to business as usual. the question is, who is bluffing? the red or the green?
     
  14. DGDXGDG

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    since the gf110 gpu core socket the same as gf100
    just install a gtx580 gf110 to 480m's board and mod the bios
    >>>gtx580m
    LOL
     
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    SO they are skipping the 990x all together?! Is this a new stepping or the same stepping as the 980x? The 32nm Gulftowns are due for a new stepping I think
     
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  18. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    485M is being released today for the 7280 for those interested in it.
     
  19. cookinwitdiesel

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    I think those interested is ALOT of people ;)

    Not on your website yet though :(

    And what is the point of listing both the S1 and original NP7280? Confuse customers?
     
  20. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    It is on the website, may need to refresh :p

    The S1 has savings with the configuration that is stock versus if you configure the 7280 the same way. Up to $210 OFF. :)
     
  21. cookinwitdiesel

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    So the S1 is otherwise identical to the regular model? And both will get the same upgrade options?
     
  22. cookinwitdiesel

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    HA! I like that the upgrade to a 2nd 485m automatically includes the 2nd AC adapter. That actually helps the value of it out ALOT in my opinion

    It also looks like it is a hell of an expensive card as expected :(
     
  23. Justin@XoticPC

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    The "S1" is basically a souped up 7280 :) Exactly the same but with upgraded components and some savings. :)

    I agree on the 2nd AC Adapter, it is needed to unleash what the 7280 is capable of.

    EDIT: Here is a benchmark of SLI 485's
     

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  24. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    I just got back from CES today, nVidia is saying that the 485M will be the top GPU for notebooks "For a while...a 570M or a 580M is not on the radar screen at this time", anyway with a GPU score possible of 24+ K for SLI...we may be able to wait awhile... :)
    ___
     
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    Any news on an SB refresh of the X7200?
     
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    If that's a stock score, that's amazing.
     
  27. DGDXGDG

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    selling an es $1600!? omg!!
    a 995x just a 2 more multiplier............interesting in the max oc with stock or lower votage
    now 980x batch 3031 3032 can easily do 200*21 4.2g uncore 4000 with all stock votage pass hyper 32m 16c

    thats right, nvidia just put a gf110 on 480m's board and modify the bios then 580m born :cool:
    take out some of vram and modify its bios again then 570m out LOL
     
  28. reaversedge

    reaversedge Notebook Evangelist

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    for those who have x7200, the waiting game is on. upgrade now or later, and personally it is really tempting seeing how 485m performs, don't get too excited now, 580m should be soon. maybe months in speculation.
     
  29. cookinwitdiesel

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    You cannot just replace the core....there are a couple hundred contact points that are soldered

    So unless you can completely reflow the board.....your plan will just end up wasting ALOT of your money
     
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    Weird. Suddenly the resell value of the 480m dropped quite a lot.
     
  31. cookinwitdiesel

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    should not be a surprise....it was essentially discontinued as soon as the 470m came out and now the GTX 485 m DESTROYS it in performance and value
     
  32. DGDXGDG

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    新竹factory BGA solder/resolder $10USD reballing $15USD
    and "a" gpu maybe $200USD
    since my cards are hard to sell in taiwan...........not bad to have a dream :D
     
  33. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    How are you going to go about obtaining the GPU then? Unless you are real good friends with a board manufacturer, I do not think nvidia sells the chips to end users ;)
     
  34. Speedy Gonzalez

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    i don't know if you read but there is not going to be better GPU than 485 released this year so no GTX 580M

    i know you kidding about replacing the core only so no comment on that

    if you want better GPU's than 480 you should list them on ebay for cheap and get you a pair of 485 ;)
     
  35. jclausius

    jclausius Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hello everyone. I'm using a plain Clevo x7200, and have run into a couple of spots where I could use some assistance:

    a) Can people post some temps of idle / load of their rigs? I've had the x7200 for about a month now - built with Arctic Silver5 TIM. I am seeing the following temps -
    Idle:
    CPUs - range from 49C - 55C across 6 cores
    case/mobo - 47-48C
    GPU - 47-48C

    Load (Prime95 2+ hours)
    CPUs - range from 76C - 84C across 6 cores
    case/mobo - 69-71C
    GPU - 42-43C

    These numbers seem a bit high to me. Ambient room temp is around 20-22C with good ventilation under the laptop.

    Note, I think the cooling system is working because if I stop Prime95, CPU temps drop to just above the "idle" temps in under 2 seconds. Case/mobo temps drop another seconds after that.

    Mostly wondering what is the "norm" for the x7200.


    b) Overclocking CPU? Using the i7-970, is there something I can use to overclocking the chip? Nothing is available in the BIOS. I didn't receive any s/w from Clevo. Besides, I'm too old school where OC'ing was done in the BIOS. What can be done for the x7200 CPU?


    c) Overclocking the GPU? Haven't seen anything in any of the nVidia drivers which allow it. Again, too old school as my last OC'ing was done with nTune. Can nTune work on the x7200? What should be used?

    TIA

    Jeff

    p.s. - Also, how do i get my laptop info from the profile info into the sig of a post? I don't see an option anywhere.
     
  36. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Those temps look acceptable to me. For overclocking there is XTU for the cpu but it is pretty unstable at the moment

    For the GPUs you can use NST through the Nvidia Control Panel or flash the vbios using nvflash and nibitor
     
  37. Speedy Gonzalez

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    The Cpu is not running cool on this laptops if i overclock 4.0 ghz and run prime 95 the temps go up to 93c that's why i give up overclocking the CPU :)
     
  38. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    I would be happy to have a desktop cpu in my laptop period......lol

    If I was in the market for a laptop now instead of a year and a half ago.....I would definitely be getting an X7200!
     
  39. jclausius

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    Speedy, that is what I was thinking.

    I don't know what the threshold is of an i7-970, but if I start overclocking, I don't think there is much room to move as the temps are already high.

    scook9,

    Downloading nVidia System Tools as we speak. Thanks.
     
  40. cookinwitdiesel

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    no problem

    You can use that to push as far as your gpus will go under stock voltage
     
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    Hi all,

    Just got my x7200 yesterday :D . See signature for configuration.

    I was very surprised to see that my system was equiped with an LG screen (LP173WF1-TLC1) instead of the Hannstar (HSD173PUW1) that I read about in all the reviews. :confused:

    All the reviews that I read previous to purchase were VERY positive about the Hannstar screen. However, I never saw a review with the LG screen. Therefore I am very interested in the following:

    - objective quality and performance comparison of the LG screen and the originally used Hannstar screen
    - is this a screen suitable for a high-end system like the x7200 ?
    - reviews of the LG screen LP173WF1-TLC1
    - other users with the LG screen and their experiences with it
    - is it normal practice that suddenly another screen model is used ?

    In the meantime I know that several other European customers got this screen (all orders after early December) and it seems that the Hannstar is not returning in the x7200...

    My first impression after first starting the system up yesterday night was: very bright and clear screen, but a solid black screen seems not really black but more grey-ish and also quite dependent on the (vertical) viewing angle. Very different from my current clevo m57ru and also compared to my HP Probook work-notebook... :(

    I am really hoping for your info, experiences and advice in this unexpected issue
     
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    The Hannstar screen has rich blacks, but backlight is horrible (as in you can see the light when the screen is dark).
     
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    Speedy, are you going to grab a pair of 485M's?
     
  44. Speedy Gonzalez

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    Nahh i can't live with the idea of having to plug 2 of those PSU's just to run 485's is good for overclocking but my machine do more than that is my primary gaming machine

    you have to see the size of this PSU's if you stock two together it will be bigger than a 1200w desktop PSU lol :eek:
     
  45. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Yeah stick with the 470s and the single PSU :D..

    That thing is a monster with 470s+980x+B+RG screen and the added bonus of only a single PSU ;)..

    Its not going to get much better then that for quite sometime i would say...


    It looks like Clevo dumped the 470s after only a month or so based on Babyhemis website offerings ?...

    With Clevo knowing they were going back to major power sucking cards i would think they could have designed a single PSU just for that purpose...

    Looking at the new 15inch and 17inch offerings coming they seem to be getting 3 different PSUs (based on specs) so why not they X7200 ?..
     
  46. Speedy Gonzalez

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    yep looks like the 470's becomes a rare item since they not offered no more ;)

    Clevo should make a single PSU for the 485's SLI like you say but i guess they refreshing the machine with Sandy Bridge and in that case is not going to be necessary
     
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    Yeah since SB draws less power they might not need the SLi power converter after that. I'm glad you got a B+RG screen working, once Clevo releases a backlit refresh I'll be all over that. I think they're supposed to eventually release a 120 hz display too.
     
  48. pasoleatis

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    It would be great if it would be enough only one power adapter for Xeon hexacore and 1x485m.
     
  49. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Actually the 470M's are still going to be offered...but not for the NP7280... :(


    At this time there is no SB refresh for this model in the immediate future is what I am hearing, as far as the other items, I guess we have to wait and see... :)
    __
     
  50. anexanhume

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    There can't be. Enthusiast SB isn't due out until H2. What Clevo needs to get rolling on is a x8100 refresh with mobile SB and CF HD6970's and/or SLI 470/485's.
     
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