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    *** Official Clevo x7200 and Sager NP7280 owners lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by italian.madness, May 26, 2010.

  1. Johnksss

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    not to many people could actually over clock cpu & gpu and complete a vantage run either.

    but running a game or two would definitely put things into perspective.
    that and if they changed anything with this new machine and it's 485's in it. considering they can run at 1.0V while the rest can't??
     
  2. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    That's all folks. I will let others who have this setup do more with Vantage. All I wanted to accomplish was to pass 26K GPU...and I did! :eek: :D



    [​IMG]
     
  3. reaversedge

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    i could not imagine what score it could have if you OC it lol
     
  4. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    I forgot to add the one with the same settings with PhysX on...Over 30K total but a little lower on the GPU... :)

    [​IMG]
     
  5. cookinwitdiesel

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    These chips are overclocking monsters......and this is all on 1 psu still?
     
  6. DGDXGDG

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    if oc like that and run vantage "extreme" mod setting with 1920*1080
    one psu might brick...........
    if still good :eek:i might get 2 of these beasts......"seriously" lol
     
  7. Speedy Gonzalez

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    Good job Hemi specially since you not up to this kind of things" like overclocking you give us an idea of what Monsters are those 485's ;)
     
  8. reaversedge

    reaversedge Notebook Evangelist

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    2 psus yes, but you had to plug them in a power converter, and the power converter output plug is connected at the back of the laptop.

    you don't actually need to plug both psus when using the laptop, maybe if you want to overvolt or OC the cpu or gpu. these guys do initial benches in only a single psu connected.

    the reason? so i widens the power limit it can draw, with the power requirements of the i7 980x and 485m sli are quite high.
     
  9. pasoleatis

    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

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    It is just two psu's connected in parallel. They will give 2 times more max ampers. They are conected through a simple plug, no other electronics attached on it.
     
  10. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Hi yes this is the system to get! Let me know if I can assist.

    Here is Crysis at VERY HIGH SETTINGS slightly OC @ 1080....

    [​IMG]
     
  11. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    585m may never happen.....people need to stop making up future model numbers lol

    485m SLI should suffice for a few years with relative ease
     
  12. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    As scook9 said it should last a good while. I would be very surprized if a mobile GPU comes out very soon that flat outperforms this 485M SLI.

    This model is just barely larger than a M17X, very close in size. The PSU though is much bigger... :)
     
  13. Speedy Gonzalez

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    Actually is not larger than the M17X r2 BabyHemi means thicker than the M17X r2 because the aspect ratio of the Alienware makes it bigger in dimensions and square now the X7200 is more rectangular based on the 16:9 aspect ratio :)
     
  14. anexanhume

    anexanhume Notebook Evangelist

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    Try Aikimox http://forum.notebookreview.com/member.php?u=235434

    Eurocom is in Canada, but has a poor reputation.
     
  15. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    I was going to say Aikimox too ;)

    He is a great guy to work with
     
  16. cdub357

    cdub357 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I take my 7280 to and from work every night. It is heavy, but not to unbearable. I purchased the new Orion 17.3" laptop backpack and the 7280 fits perfectly with room for at least an additional 15.4" laptop. Haven't figured out how to load photos yet, but I can if anyone would like. The Orion has plenty of padding and is a comfortable fit on the shoulders and back. It is also checkpoint ready for airports. The security sleeve covers all of the 7280 except maybe 3.5 inches, but the compartment itself still provides plenty of protection. FYI..I was able to purchase it from dell for $99 + free shipping to Alaska and I got it in 2 days!!
     
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    Has anyone done any overclocking with the 460M's and how do the respond to it?
     
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    physib Notebook Evangelist

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    The biggest oc so far I've seen is 824 Mhz by speedy. Not sure if you can do more with the new driver.
     
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    New driver? Is there an official one from Nvidia or is there a new one at laptopvideo2go?
     
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    Thanks for the comments re: backpacks...timely as Xotic have informed me the Targus case would need to be shipped separately...

    So I might change the case to either the Orion or the Slappa Koa backpack Daikyu mentioned on page 273. Those Slappa Koa's do look impressive...

    M.A.S.K. Laptop Backpack

    One guy in the reviews also specifically mentions using the 7280 with it...

    "Bingo! the perfect backpackI am using my M.A.S.K. KOA backpack with my Sager NP7280, one of the largest laptops out there right now, and it fits like a glove! Couldn't be any more thrilled with my purchase! Well worth the money for this quality product!"

    Also gets good review here:
    Slappa M.A.S.K. Custom Build 17" Laptop Backpack Review - Pictures

    Thanks all!
     
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    PPPeterCT Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey, You non-novices probably know this already, but it was a surprise to me, so I'll post: I found out that Windows 7 by default limits the # CPU threads (or cores?) the X7280 CPU can use! If you hit Ctr+Alt_Del, choose task mgr, and on the performance tab if there is only one line graph next to CPU then you are limited.

    You can change it by runing msconfig, under boot tab advanced, uncheck # CPUs. I did it, now there are 12 graphs in task manager next to CPU!

    I don't know how it helps for speed, I don't run benchmarks.
     
  22. Johnksss

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    it should have been already set for 12 threads....
     
  23. ackack47

    ackack47 Notebook Geek

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    Mine's always been 12 threads...
     
  24. jclausius

    jclausius Notebook Virtuoso

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    Not here. Granted. I'm using a plain Clevo x7200 i7-970, Win 7 (x64), but default was 12 Threads in Prime95, 12 CPUs w/ in Task Manager's performance tab as well as 12 CPU(s) listed under Device Manager.

    Weird your's would've been set that way.

    Note, within Task Manager, you can change the setting to see all CPUs in one graph. Goto View -> CPU History, and choose Choose "One Graph, All CPUs" or "One Graph per CPU". Also note, this change within Task Manager doesn't affect performance of your machine.
     
  25. MALIBAL

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    For those who were inquiring, the 470M cards are now back in stock on the NP7280 / X7200
     
  26. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    Also there is a drop in price for the CPU's... :)
     
  27. Burnt

    Burnt Notebook Consultant

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    quick update: had this computer for about a month, i've flown it cross country and also took it to mexico. no trouble carrying it. sure it's heavy at 12 lbs....but....for pete's sake it's 12 lbs! that's like a women's lightweight barbell.

    the sound is somewhat disappointing.

    temps are very cool, even when gaming, with no additional cooling.

    i like the power button. it's huge.

    so glad i bought this.
     
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    gejoreni Newbie

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    any ideas about when the x7200 refresh will be? I don't want to buy one now then have them update things next week. thanks
     
  29. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    All we know at this point that it is not in the immediate future... :)
     
  30. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Yes, 990X remains the most powerful CPU for at least 6 more months. IMHO, the x7200's successor may appear a few months after Computex. But I don't know for sure...
     
  31. reaversedge

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    i hope so too, man that 2 psus together opened the door for the knocking 485m and sli. i wonder what else comes knocking in the future lol
     
  32. r0gue3

    r0gue3 Notebook Geek

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    Thanks to the few comments I got for my inquiry a couple days ago about the 470M's coming in stock, I ordered one of these bad boys up!

    Specs:

    • CLEVO, X7200/GF100/FHD Core i7 Notebook Barebone, Intel® X58, 17.3" Full HD LED Glossy, PCIe x16 MXM-III Discrete Graphics
    • INTEL, Core™ i7-950 Quad-Core 3.06GHz, LGA1366, 4.8 GT/s QPI, 8MB L3 Cache, 45nm, 130W, EM64T EIST VT XD, Retail
    • ARCTIC SILVER, Arctic Alumina Thermal Compound, Ceramic-Based Polysynthetic
    • NVIDIA, Dual GeForce® GTX 470M 1.5GB GDDR5 Mobile Graphics Card for X7200, SLI Configuration
    • CRUCIAL, 12GB (3 x 4GB) PC3-8500 DDR3 1066MHz SDRAM SODIMM, CL7, Non-ECC
    • SEAGATE, 500GB Momentus® XT, 7200 RPM, 32MB cache, 4GB Hybrid SLC SSD, 2.5-Inch, SATA 3 Gb/s NCQ, OEM
    • SEAGATE, 500GB Momentus® XT, 7200 RPM, 32MB cache, 4GB Hybrid SLC SSD, 2.5-Inch, SATA 3 Gb/s NCQ, OEM
    • RAID, RAID 0 (striping), min 2 hard drives required
    • CLEVO, Blu-Ray Burner and Super-Multi DVD±RW Optical Drive for Clevo X7200
    • NETWORK, Built-in 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet LAN Card
    • INTEL, Centrino® Ultimate-N 6300 Wireless Card, IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n, 11/54/450 Mbps, Internal PCIe Half Mini Card
    • NOTEBOOK ACCESSORY, AC Adapter 100-240V (Included)
    • NONE, Standard Carrying Case for Notebook Included
    • NONE, No Operating System (Choose OS or subject to Limited Support)
    • SERVICE, System Binder
    • WARRANTY, Extended 2 Year Warranty for D900F / X8100 / X7200 Clevo Notebooks

    I've also been watching some of the driver updates on this forum, but haven't seen a lot of chatter until recently what the best drivers are for the 470M's.

    Has anybody tried the new WHQL's that came out just now on their machines with 470M SLI? How are they? Working right out the box, or do they need a modified INF?

    Reference to some people's advice:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/548653-best-driver-gtx-470m-sager-8690-a.html

    Thanks in advance!

    - r0
     
  33. Speedy Gonzalez

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    The best driver till now is the one BabyHemi post on the thread you linked i didn't try the new driver yet but you usually face problems using nvidia drivers and not the Clevo ones like no brightness control or the GPU clocks stay at max
     
  34. oO edison Oo

    oO edison Oo Notebook Consultant

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    w00t!

    i just configured and will be placing an order for an x7200 from BabyHemi!.

    here are some of the specs

    Sager NP7280-S1



    • Display: 17.3" Full HD LED Super Clear Ultra Bright
    • Thermal Compound: IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
    • Proccesor: Intel® Core™ i7-950 (3.06-3.33GHz) 8MB L3 Cache
    • Video & Graphics Card: Dual nVIDIA GTX 485M with 2GB GDDR5 in SLI*
    • Memory: 12GB Triple Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz -3 X 4GB
    • Primary Hard Disk Drive: 120GB Intel SATA2 Solid State Disk Drive
    • 2nd Hard Drive: 500GB 7200rpm SATA 300 Secondary Hard Disk Drive
    • Optical Drive: 6X Blue-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive
    • Wireless Network Card: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 - 802.11A/B/G/N
    :D

    ..can't wait.

    first sager/clevo, and can't wait to see what I can do with this thing...

    thanks to everyone here!! can't wait to contribute more!
     
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    Hi All,

    This is my first post so be nice!!

    Been reading everyone's comments over the past couple of months and am getting close to ordering myself.

    I have noticed that a lot of people choose the I-7 950 processor. Is there a reason for this? The reason i ask is that i can afford to go all the way to a 980X processor but i haven't seen many people order this processor and was just wandering if i am missing something

    Thanks for the replies
     
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    For a laptop the i7 950 is more than sufficient. More than that is just if you want bragging rights. The i7 950 is better than ANY mobile processor out and is well priced.
     
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    schroder112 Newbie

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    Thanks for the replies.

    Can you update the processor in the future is you desire?

    So hypothetically, if i got the i7 950 now, could i swap for a newer processor down the track?
     
  39. MALIBAL

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    Yes, you can upgrade the CPU later.
     
  40. pasoleatis

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    If it fits the socket and if there is BIOS support for it.
     
  41. Chrack2

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    @ the resellers of the X7200

    Can anyone say me where is the Bios Chip on the Mainboard?


    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  42. genocidew

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    from the picture you`ve posted, seems like if i want to change the ram, wifi card, i have to dismantle almost all the machine, or just lift up the keyboard will do?
     
  43. jclausius

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    I think a lot of this will depend on what your plans for the x7200.

    In my case, the x7200 is a tool to write/compile source code. I'm adding more and more threading to software every day, so having a hex-core processor makes more sense than if I was just gaming. I also think if you do a lot of video and/or music encoding-decoding, more cores help as well as super fast disk i/o. Finally, reviews of the i7-970 mentioned it can easily be OC'd to 4GHz. However, I think with the heat footprint of the x7200, that might be pushing it.

    You should sit down and make a list of what you will be doing on the x7200. If it is mostly browsing, gaming, email, etc. than a quad core will more than likely suffice. However, if you are using multiple, heavily threaded applications a two more cores or just want the pure power of 6 CPUs (12 when hyperthreading), then spending the extra $$ won't hurt.

    Also, FWIW, if you have limited funds and need to choose where your $$ is going to be spent, springing for an SSD instead of more processing power wouldn't hurt. I put in a 256GB Crucial C300 (System/Tools drive) along with two 500GB Momentus XTs (Mirrored data drives). Once I flashed the C300... it was amazing to see this drive's bench marks.
     
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    @ genocidew

    Only Keyboard ;-)
     
  45. oO edison Oo

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    i agree with jcluius. I'm springing for a SSD because it will give me more performance per dollar. This is a gaming machine to me, and i will get more performance immediately from using the funds towards an SSD vs a processor upgrade.

    For most cases (i say most because there are BOUND to be those who feel otherwise, and there are exceptions to the rule) the performace/dollar spent path is GPU/SSD(instead of regular HD)/CPU
     
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    I would upgrade the GPUs before getting an SSD personally.....
     
  47. jclausius

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    For me there aren't too many compilers that need Direct10X or Open GL. :>)
     
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    The I would implies a focus on gaming and benches ;)

    For compiling get the cheapest GPU option lol unless you also care about gaming
     
  49. jclausius

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    ;)

    That's what I love about the x7200. Being more of a desktop replacement it has a lot more versatility than other laptops!
     
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    Driver question....

    I've had my x7200 a little over a month now and I have enjoyed every minute. Even the wife love's it which makes it all the better cuts down on the wife agro from the money spent :). Anyways, I am wondering is it necessary to update all of the drivers listed on the link provided earlier in the forums or is it a "you must cuz you owe it to your machine!". I only ask because, all has worked well except one video glitch where the screen went all rainbow swirly on me, but a hard restart and I have not had the issue since. I can't remember what exactly I was doing or trying to do, but it made me wonder. I downloaded all of the drivers listed except the bios and they have just been sitting in a folder on my desktop while I contemplate double clicking! So....some advice..yea or nay...I just don't want to brick it. It would increase my wife agro!!
     
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