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Hi Schroder,

Re: the power...Our Australian power uses 240 Volt.

The specs of the 7280 machine say:
Full Range AC Adapter 300W, AC‐in 100~240V, 50~60Hz, DC output 20V, 15A

By the sound of this all that is required is a standard US to Australia plug...ie. no voltage adaptor of any kind required...it is just simply making the plug fit in our sockets.
In fact in any country where there the voltage is in that range 100-240V all that is need is the actual physical adapter to get the sockets plugging in correctly.

Would love someone to confirm this 'theory!'

I've ordered the SLAPPA Koa backpack...it is supposed to fit the laptop well.

The specs of my machine are for video editing with Adobe CS5 (just a bit of gaming)...so it is not as high specced as it can be...i7 950 and 460M Graphics card with 12 Gig memory. (Apparently this might help with cooling a bit anyway.)

Haven't received my machine just yet...hoping delivery is today.

hope yours comes quickly...(I had paid for the extra quick build just to try and speed things up...so think that helped a bit)

regards, Mavoz

 

I did not use the power adapter from the xX7200, but at least my Nokia phone charger and the power adapter from my D901C (both of them rated 100-240V and 50-60 Hz) worked without problem in both Europe and Brazil.

 

Hello there,

once again another review in German, but Google will translate it for you .
Test mySN XMG U700 ULTRA GTX 470M SLI-Notebook - Notebookcheck.com Tests

The X7200 with SLI GTX 470m and I7 950 is tested.
Basically the test say it´s a hell of a notebook, but the screen is far from being good - and the I7 950 is beaten in every test by the SB 2920XM CPU...
The GTX 470m SLI had only one game, Metro 2033, where it couldn´t get frames better than 24 FPS in highest settings.
But read by yourself .

 

i wonder how 485m sli will perform in metro 2033

 

Thanks for the link ! the screen is the first thing i upgrade when i got mine

 

Just pulled trigger on 7280 s-1 from Xotic PC , props to Brett today from there for working with me and checking with Sager about how fast they could get it to me as I need replacement soon. Was trying to decide between Asus G73 Sandy Bridge but the 460m really held me back as this is going to be my main gaming and work/only rig so the 485 really attracted me.

Plus it just seems the Sager build quality and support from Xotic far outweighs the Asus support and issues with keyboard/touchpad etc (not sure if true but just impression I get ).

Getting it with the i7 950 , stock 12gb ram , blu-ray etc and 2 500 gb drives and single 485m.

I'm IT engineer and comfortable with mucking around software wise , was looking for major tips/tricks folks would advise off the bat for this particular model ? Will be running Win 7 Pro x64.

Side question are suggestions for roomy backpack or messenger style bag for it ? Something with good padding ? Or is the basic bag that comes with it good enough for just it and power adapter if I've got another bag to hold my cables/work materials etc.

Thanks in advance and looking forward to getting it and joining the club.

 

Do not get a messenger bag, will just cause shoulder/neck/problems as this is too heavy. Get a good backpack. The Alienware Orion Backpack is outstanding

 

Thanks for suggestion , leaning towards large well padded backpack , also I wondered if folks with this model recommend going with a laptop cooler for it to sit on while at home doing gaming a good while ?

That was one of the things I read very positive about the Asus G73 was the cooling system negated a need for external cooler (specifically using the 460m video card), haven't read that the 7280 is a heat hound but wondered if would be worth it

 

It doesn't need one. I believe load temps are in the 70s.

 

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SPEEDYGONZALEZ: Did your M17x's screen fit on the x7200?

 

if speedy gonzales can get the new m17x-r3 120hz 1080p 3D-vision ready screen into the x7200... i'll be so excited.

 

Cannot wait Speedy to do that ..

 

I'm really interested to get on Clevo X7200 with core i7 950 with sli of GTX485m.
I found the look of X7200 purely awesome..

Anyway I've just some questions about power supply. I've read that some people had some power cut while playing on X7200 due to too high power consumption of sli GTX480m+core i7 980X.
Have we a clear picture of what is the exact problem about this? Is it due to excessive overclocking? Will I have some troubles for my future configuration?

As solution, I saw that clevo resellers were proposing 2 power supplies in parallel. It seems to be a good short terms solution. But is there any mid term plan from Clevo to get one more powerful power supply?

Thank you for your help

 

The power converter box will be Clevo's only solution for this issue.

 

So I see they're adding in a second power brick with the 470 sli now. Speedy, you don't have any issues with just one brick, and you have the 980x on top of it right? Have you had any shutdowns or anything so far? So is the second power brick just merely a precaution, and we don't technically HAVE to use it during SLI gaming sessions? I was going to get the 470 SLI over the 485 just mostly for that reason, and well the price mainly.

I will be lugging this thing around school, so I wouldn't have to bring the second brick for that situation, but still it sucks either way that I would possibly have issues with 1. I was just thinking about going with the 8170 and 485m, but I had a 9280 and switched to a 8690. I regret that decision to this day mostly for just power and upgrade sli options, and I want the x7200 now as it's the successor, and well is the best looking laptop Clevo has put out since the 570RU/860TU days.

I would go as far to say it's the best looking Clevo I have seen yet, it's just not the most portable laptop in the lineup. I know from the time I had the 9280, I was in a transient period here in town, and I also had to walk up to the coffee shop to get internet. The 9280 was right on the brink for just being a pain in the sometimes, mostly because I couldn't really set it on my lap with the big rubber feet and vent hole placements. The weight wasn't too big of a deal, in the shoulder bag it was awful, but the backpack was no big deal, just felt like an extra text book. So I already know what to expect with the x7200, but the 2 power brick thing is really turning me off here, and I will avoid it like rabies.

 

I saw it was also possible to use power supply of 2x220W (the one on x8100) instead of 2 x 300W. is it possible? If yes it will save a lot of space/weight, isn't it?

 

The 220W power supply are almost identically to the 300 W with the exception of max possible current. The 2x220W will give 440 W and if the total needs are below his value no need to have 2x300W.

 

you are saying that 220W power supply has same size as 300W one?
I thought 300w was bigger

 

Sorry. Not the physical size, just the fact that the voltage is the same.

 

Would the power adaptor/ dual PSU be required for a w7200 system with:

Sli 485m
980X

or is it just the older spec cards e.g 470m,480m SLI that are causing troubles?


Also, anyone got the dual 485m configuration yet? Id love to see some benchmarks.

 

Just look at previous page. I think someone already post it

 

Wait... what?

Where did you see they were sending two bricks with the 470M SLI? Other than the price, this is the only reason why I didn't go for the 485M SLI; didn't want to have to worry about a second brick.

 

it depends a lot on the proc. The systems runs out of power when both cards are used at 100% and the cpu as well is used at 100%. Add the TDP of the gpus with the one of cpu and you get the max power needed.

 

Actually it barely depends on the CPU at all.....all of the i7 line will use comparable power unless you overclock

 

Yeah whatever. I meant it depends on the load on processor, . The point is that it draws up to 130 W at full load +200 W from the 2xgpu at full load, it goes over the 300 W limit and there are other things which draw some power that i did not take into account, so it makes sense to have 2 power supplies for 2 470m.

So there might be problems when a game is played with the gpu at max load and the proc is as well at full load.

 

you don't need 2 PSU's with dual 470's because the cards are 75 watt so 75+75+130=280 the max usage i saw playng games was 310w and that was overclocked

Edit : @brianvp i never had a single shut down on the power supply even overclocking and is totally safe with dual 470's and 980X

 

Sorry my bad. I thought that 470 TDP was higher. Thought 280 is quite at the limit and there is also the DVD burner and the screen.

 

Our demo NP7280 does have a 980X AND the 485M's SLI and there is not a need for the extra PSU unless you are doing very heavy extreme benching or the like. For regular gaming of anything I know out there you will be fine just using the one PSU. I have posted what is below up to now....

 

Well my 4870s feel weak now!

 

Yeah, that's a GTX 580 in a laptop

 

That's insane Alienware is going to have hard time competing with this

 

take that AW! that's sager for you lol, im glad i choose this laptop over others

 

Alienware was doing great for a while when the x8100 was all their competition. They did not go to the next step though, something Clevo has done in the x7200. Hopefully the mystical M18x will exist and help bridge the gap. In the mean time....I would be buying a x7200 if I was in the market

 

Wow that's a relief, so we don't even technically need a second power brick for regular use even with SLI 485!!? Oh man I am psyched now. Well I might just get 1 485 for now then another later on, or SLI 470, not sure which. More power right away, or have a sleeper cell, hmmm. I need to go study benchmarks.

 

How is it that the 485Ms don't need the second PSU, seeing as they have the same TDP as the 480M?

 

2x gpu at full load are 200W, there is still 100W left and if the processor it is not used at max you do not get beyond 300W.

 

good news for sli of GTX485m that could be handled by one psu..

I'm unpatient to get my x7200.. In France, X7200 with sli GTX485m is not yet available.

About noise of X7200+sli GTX485m, is it comparable with X8100 with sli of GTX285m?..

 

It has been reported that the standard 300W PSU will go up to around 370W of output before tripping...

 

Hi Fellas,

Hope someone here may be able to help....

I'm from the UK and have myself a Rock X795 (aka clevo/sager x7200) with 980x 6gb 480m sli win 7 64bit + 3 yr onsite warranty. Just got the machine at xmas and havent had the smoothest ride thus far.

Machine turned up with a line across the screen and 30hz ish flickering in sli when in a full screen 3d application. To cut a long story short i've just got it back from RMA and it works.

Thought id upgrade to the latest 266.58 drivers, which installed fine - except Now no sli option in NV control panel. Machine still shows two cards just without option to enable sli.

Am I stuck with 257? or has anyone any suggestions?

 

babyhemi, i never get tired of looking at those 3dmarkVantage numbers.

 

Make sure the SLI bridge is connecting the 2 cards

 

You sir are a legend! Thanks for posting the benchmarks. What a beast of a machine!

 

Yup definetley connected, engineer checked that first time he came out. Also on 257 sli runs ok

 

Try re seating the GPU's and swap primary to secondary

 

Remember vantage is not torching GPU and CPU at the same time like an intensive game when i run vantage the kill a watt meter shows 270W max but when i play a game i saw up to 310w and that is with 470's

there must be a reason why Clevo is offering the second PSU you don't think so?

Like you say 200+100+ the rest of the system screen HDD's lights optical drive ........

This machine can get pretty noisy but all depends on how the game is torching the cards sometimes when the fan speed is on the middle is not bad but if you start overclocking it will get to the 3rd speed and that's loud
not bad compared to other systems i test before, the noise levels are acceptable for this kind of hardware

 

thank you Speedy for your answer..

Anyway my policy in terms of overclocking components is simple : only for benchmarks.. (especially true with such a beast)

For power supply test, I guess call of prypiat benchmark tools with maximum details could be a good option..

 

I will tell the engineer to start with that thanks.

Now to make matters worse i have sli applications crash with a blue wipe down screen or bsod with varying intermitency. Some times crysis v1.2 will open and run in sli, other times total lockout.

Time for another engineer visit

 

Anyone having problems with the 266.58 Nvidia drivers. Since updating my machine will randomly completely shut down. No blue screen or anything just off.

 

i finally got tripped just playing crysis
i think that psu is too hot so it tripped........hope next time clevo add a fan in psu

 

Crysis is one of the most stressing games I have for sure

One of the few that is good at pushing graphics VERY hard and CPU kind of hard at the same time