*** Official Clevo x7200 and Sager NP7280 owners lounge ***

I think the 300W is the safe power that the adapter can sustain for long time and for short times it can go beyond that without shutting down.

 

so far when i played crysis i haven't experienced any psu trips (2 hours of straight gaming)

 

Well as you know it's all about the amperage, just like desktop PSU, you could have a 500w power supply that has 50 amps, and a 500w that has 20 one is a POS, and the other is a well made high efficiency beast. The Chicony used in the x7200 has 15 amps@300W which isn't a ton compared to desktops, but the 180w I bought for my Gateway was a 9.5 amp part, and that was the highest I knew of other than the D9xx series. 15 is the highest I have ever seen on a laptop part, but is really quite lower than I would have thought, I was thinking it would have had 18amps to run something like the x7200. Looks like the D9xx series had a 15amp also, so for the most part they are the same brick.

 

Looking at the mess that Rock left behind after its RMA, my installed drivers shown by windows are 266.58 but on NV control panel they are shown as 257.81
and I most definetly am experiencing random crashes and bluescreen lockouts!

 

I think you are misunderstanding how power is calculated.

The basic rule of thumb is: Watts = Volts x Amps

Therefore, a 500w PSU that is rated at 50 Amps would only have a DC output of 10 Volts.

Whereas, a 500w PSU that is rated at 15 amps would have a DC output of just over 33 Volts.

The X7200 PSU has an output of 20 Volts DC and is rated at 15 Amps: therefore, 20 x 15 = 300 Watts.

If it had an 18 Amp PSU, it would be rated at 360 Watts.

Hope that helps.

 

Finally i added an 1TB HDD to my Sager

 

Hmm I knew there was some sort of calculation, that's pretty simple, why then is there such a huge discrepancy in desktop power supplies?( aside from obvious reasons of cost) I was looking at the voltages, and there are 3.3v, 5v and 12v rails, so if it's a 500w PSU and one has a 50amp 12v rail and the other has a 30amp 12v rail, the amps are still there they're just on the 3.3 or the 5v then, or does it not work that way? I was just always wondering where the amperes go when you had the same wattage and same 12v rails yet half the amperage. All desktop PSU have the same output voltage right? Or is that where I'm not seeing the math. That's all I was wondering, since I have always seen huge differences between the $50 500W PSU and the $150 500W PSU, yet could never figure out where that power came from.

 

So I actually just downgraded to the drivers on Sager's site (forget the exact version) but things now appear to be running quite smooth again.

 

Voltage also matters....not all laptops are the same DC voltage from the AC adapter....DC Volts X Amps = Watts.......

 

"HOLY CRAP! THIS IS THE BIGGEST LAPTOP I'VE EVER SEEN!!!!"

-new x7200 owner.

 

Let me know how you get on etc. How often you required dual PSU etc (eg. will you need it for regular gaming or just for hardcore OCing).

Would appreciate it, considering purchasing one myself.

 

Yeah, but it is a beauty isn't it...
_

 

absolutely. I'll do a review and images this weekend. boot times with SSD vs my other computer as well as GPU tests.

but i will say... babyhemi is right... it's a beauty.

still smiling.

 

it is a beauty. i'm so excited. thank you again for everything. You made shopping for this an amazing experience.

 

For the GTX 485M must the Bios update?
My Bios is the 03/05.

 

feckin jealous!

 

Just got my x7200! A modern marvel! The size is huge, but who buys a truck and worries about mpg? Just wish the the included bag was bigger it almost doesn't fit in the bag it does with careful force but don't think about adding both power supplies and your mouse. good thing I brought an after market bag.

 

That is so true! If it's a gaming powerhouse, it's not allowed to be light and silent. I'd add 4 extra fans to it if only I could and also replace all the exterior plastic with metal FTW!

 

the good thing about x7200 is what is under the hood. and check the games you can play in it, especially for those who has sli. it's simply awesome.

 

its not a truck, its a.. Ferr.. nope ( used by Acer ) Lamborg.. nope ( used by Asus ) its a.. Bugatti! Bugatti Veyron ( laptop ) to be more specific. bulky but packs a lot of power under the hood, even powerful than the out-of-this-world.......... no comment. peace!

 

so just installed windows 7 professional, drivers from the sager disk, updated windows. and then installed 3dMark Vantage.

here is my score. help me interpret. This is the firstime i've ever benchmarked something. But i think it's up there correct? i'll read up on OC'ing it a little (GPU/CPU) and see what i can do. I'm gonna do a video review this weekend i hope.

Result

My 3DMark Vantage score was 24997. i just installed it and ran the program, default settings.

specs below.

thoughts?

 

Also just received my Sager 7280...ordered and arrived in Australia in 16 days!!
That includes clearance of money via wire transfer, building of machine and shipping, clearance through customs!
I am amazed...I had a deadline of 28 February to get it...Xotic PC absolutely creamed that date!

Am also very impressed with the build quality of the machine...it does look quite "Mac" like...

the power was a pleasant surpise...I thought I'd need a special travel adapter...

the "brick" includes a standard three pin computer input where a regular computer power lead can plug in...ie. I think all I need to do is grab any standard Australian computer lead (instead of the supplied US version) and plug it into the brick....

The cord is technically an IEC C13 Powr cord as shown here:

Power Cords IEC C13

Can someone please confirm this is correct?

Will this be fine?the brick says "Input 100-240v - 4.5A 50-60 Hz
Don't want to blow up my machine on first use!!

 

hi everyone, i will be doing so much rendering and gaming as well "money is not an issue"

i am confused which memory should i choose 1600mhz or 1333mhz?12 or 6?
which company can build it with 120hz screen?
do i need raid for the secondery hdd. will be any improvment in performance?
here is my configeration:

Sager NP7280-S1 / Clevo X7200

- 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Glossy Screen (1920x1080)- 120hz-
- Intel® Core™ i7-980X Exreme Edition (3.33-3.6GHz) 12MB L3 Cache,
- IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- nVidia GeForce GTX 485M 2,048MB PCI-Express GDDR5
- 12,288MB DDR3 1600MHz or 1333MHz Memory (3 SODIMMS)
- 6X Blue-Ray Burner/Reader / 8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive
- 240GB OCZ Vertex 2 Sandforce Solid State Drive (primary)
- 750GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- 750GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- Raid 0 Stripe Enabled

 

Had one quick question for those who have one of these in the US: Does the laptop have a COAX in port, and does it actually have a TV Tuner in it? All the reviews I've seen mention that the port is there, but nobody ever does anything with it.

Thanks!

 

By max u mean smoke and fire coming out? CPU power is more than enough for gaming. GPU is the one that bottlenecks.

 

I need an expert help soon guys,,, I suppose to place an order this weak

 

you first have to decide if you can live with a 60Hz screen because there is only 1 manufacturer (Clevo) and they only make the x7200 with 60Hz screens

 

Thanks for your response, so one Q down,,, too bad and waste for a huge rig and big $$$$ that we can't enjoy it in 3D, unless we get an extrnal plazma, projecter tv or LCD with 120Hz

What about the memory?

 

as far as SDRAM. the configurable options are 1333 and 1066 not 1600. you can use 1333 if you have the 980x. if not, it will be the 1066.

 

Why did you say that??
Eurocom and Avadirect have 1600MHz in their confg list but I only see it in 6MB not 12MB

http://web.eurocom.com/EC/ec_model_config1(1,214,0)

GAMING NOTEBOOK Clevo X7200 Core™i7 Gaming Notebook, 17.3" Full HD Glossy LED LCD, NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 460M / 470M / 485M SLI® Graphics : AVADirect Custom Computer Configuration

So, any suggestion? is there any advantage to go for a higher MHz referring to my rig?

 

Yeah, you can get 6gb of 1600 mhz. 4gb sticks can't go to 1600 mhz so if you want that way faster memory @1600mhz you'll have to go with 6gb, which is way more than enough for gaming and pretty much everything else. I only think you would want 12gb if you were a hardcore video trans coder, or if you use other media editing tools that take up a lot of memory. I have 12gb @ 1333mhz and I can never get above 4GB, I get close with supreme commander and Project Reality BF2 mod but that's it. The 6GB @1600 mhz would be the way to go, I wish I got it.

As for the advantage, in my opinion, memory isn't really something noticeable anymore these days. I don't think it'd be easy to notice the bandwidth increase from 1333mhz to 1600mhz, there's a lot more to it than simply increasing speed for a faster computer, the motherboards FSB has a lot to with it. From what I've researched faster memory only really effects games these days, even then it's a nominal performance increase.

 

Stay away from Eurocom.

 

Just broke 27500 in 3DMark Vantage!! thank you Babyhemi for taking the time on the phone today to guide me a little.

but a little image goodness



just a little OC'ed with nVidia inspector.

i love this machine... I bought it for gaming, got sucked into benching....

 

That is not a valid score as you have GPU PhysX enabled, run it again with PhysX disabled. The GPU Score is great though!

 

rain on my parade...

how do you turn off PsyX? in the nVidia screen i only has

auto
gpu 1
gpu 2
cpu

no option for off.

 

I think you need to turn it off in the 3DMark10 settings before you start the benchmark.

 

i don't see it. i'm using vantage) is it (turn off PPU)? i see it in a lot of threads relating to the same question. (when googled)

 

Click on the Options tab in Vantage and look for disable PPU. Put a check mark in the box next to it. That is it...

_

 

thanks!

I tried that and it crashes after the 2 run or so. lol i'll try again after some BC2 time

 

Nice Score edison

Can anyone tell me what version of bios is needed for the gtx 485 on the x7200?

 

hey chrack2. i got your message - my BIOS is 1.01.05cSA LS1

 

not without knowing what i'm doing... MSI kombustor isn't loading so i don't know how far i can push it. (i hear MSI kombustor is there to give an idea of how far we can)

 

Try with Nvidia inspector but you have to apply the settings for each card individually

 

Do you install the HD audio driver when installing the graphic driver?
I have a separate audio interface, and it's not working properly. I think it might be driver issues, since it worked fine in XP.

 

really??? voltage is locked in inspector - so i can just unlock max and just shove it to the right??? sounds fishy... you do it first! LOL

ok. i'll try. at the mild overclock i did. temp only reached like 49 degrees.


this machine is a beast!

 

Still can't decide on the 470sli or the single 485. Here is how I am getting bottle-necked on the decision. So I get SLI 470, ok so that is that, I doubt I would just replace both cards just because a better set come out, that would cost a ton. So the 470SLI is a done deal in that respect. The 485 single would be nice because it's a strong card, and I could add another down the road. But here is where I'm skeptical on one 485, ok so I would have to buy the heatsink, the blower, AND the SLI bridge just to add it. So, even down the road when that card ( maybe ) drops in price, I would still have to pay out the rear for the other parts.

Then I'm not sure if I would need the bios update to add the second card? They're both the same price on the S-1, which I don't really see the point of getting the standard model, since it's damn near the same price after adding the 485/470sli. I wouldn't want to get the DVD drive and then have games come out on Blue-ray, then I would be screwed and have to buy an OEM blue ray drive for a higher price. So I'm not sure what to do with the vid card situation, I can't seem to decide myself, so how about if you guys can, see if I missed something, or if I should make an obvious choice.

I do know that if I got 470 SLI, I would have a beast of a system right away, whereas the single 485 would be a good single, with a good sleeper cell. Although SLI isn't always a sure thing, and is reliant on good SLI optimizations in said game. Since I had SLI 8800GT, I have not had SLI / Xfire since, but was going to get Xfire 4890, but just ended up giving that computer to my father with only 1 4890.

So, I still don't know what to do here Oh if the 6970 comes out before I place an order, I guess the same goes for that, but I'm sure I would be able to make a decision since the pricing would be different. The price is the same for this config, so I can't make it based on it per se....although the 470m SLI is the better bang for the buck ( as long as SLI is optimized ) technically according to Vantage, and a few games. Heh, I could get the SLI 485m, but it just hurts seeing that price. I WILL be selling my 8690, so that will at least take $1000(I hope) off of that price. Well I hope the 6970 xfire is an option by the middle of the month.

 

xfire 6970 should be around soon, check Tom's Hardware (try to ignore the fact that Eurocom supplied their sample lol)

 

This may be a silly question.......but: For those single 480m users such as my self, can a 485m be added for sli? And overclock the 480m to 485m speeds? Using the 485m as the main card in this setup.

If I understand right, the memory on the 2nd card in sli is not used. So doesn't that help some of the heat/power issues?

 

The memory on both cards IS used and I doubt that it would work. If it did let you enable SLI, both cards will run at the spec of the lower one. So you would essentially have 2x GTX 480m

 

Dude, you are on a computer, on the internet nonetheless... You are not poor lol