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    *** Official Clevo x7200 and Sager NP7280 owners lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by italian.madness, May 26, 2010.

  1. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    I haven't tried the latest ones from there. A few weeks back I did and the performance was not as good as the stock 265.77 drivers. Others tried some of them as well with no good luck. Maybe I will try out the latest ones posted there soon. Thanks. :)
     
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    Which Network controller provides the 10/100/1000 Ethernet in the x7280 ? I don't see this detail on the Clevo x7200 page. Thanks.
     
  3. oO edison Oo

    oO edison Oo Notebook Consultant

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    awesome!!! congratz! did you upload your scores so I can emulate your settings? i'm still trying to get there 28.3K is my plateau.
     
  4. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    Can any of you X7200 owners provide a copy of your mobo BIOS if you're able to/know how to extract it? I would be very appreciative of it.
     
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    Sorry about that, I thought you were asking for drivers. I've edited this post.

    Device Manager reports it as a JMicron PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Adapter. HTH
     
  6. jclausius

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    Dunno if it helps, but you could always download a BIOS from Clevo or Sager.
     
  7. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    The Core i7 990X Extreme Edition CPU has now replaced the 980x on this model... :)
    __
     
  8. Justin@XoticPC

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    On top of the 990X now available the 960 is now the base CPU and the price remained the same. (960 Upgrade from the previous default 950 used to be a $330 upgrade :D) Which in return makes the 970 cheaper. :)
     
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    Justin,

    Just sent ya a email asking about a change of my order to include the 990X instead of the 980. My order has not gone into production yet (still in phase 1).
     
  10. Justin@XoticPC

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    If it hasn't shipped you will get in on the new 990x :)
     
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    Thank you

    /10char
     
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    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Yes, this is a very fast transition (including the price drop) - less than 2 days since the 990X's launch! :)
     
  13. Patrck_744

    Patrck_744 Burgers!

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    The latest dell quadro drivers posted @ lv2g has good image quality and has the same perfomance as the latest mobile drivers.
     
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    SLAPPADom Company Representative

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    Sacred thanks for the info and the pics--we get a number of Sager customers asking if the 7280 fits in the M.A.S.K. backpack and now we have a place to point them. Thanks

    Dom @ SLAPPA

     
  15. raphaelrabadan

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    The x7200 comes with 960 instead of 950 now? Larry, I bought with the 950, can you tell me with which one it has shipped? I hope it came with te 960 already or I'll feel really bad otherwise =/
     
  16. harmattan

    harmattan Notebook Evangelist

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    I know it's always nice to have a higher default clocked CPU, but I really don't care too much I got a 950 with my order last week instead of a 960. In my experience OC-ing since original Pentiums, the SKU really doesn't indicate how high a chip will clock or how cool it will run (especially on an x58 where you'll likely run into a CPU limit before the FSB wall)... I've seen quite a few Extreme i7's that have a lower peak OC and higher temps than "lowly" 920s.

    The only benefits of having a 960 vs. 950 is the default clock is higher -- if you normally OC, this benefit is nullified.
     
  17. wiggit07

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    wow at this rate I might as well keep waiting a couple of weeks to see what other changes await the configurations
     
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    TBH I dont think anything else comming down the pipe.....
     
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    I think all i am waiting for right now is for the ati cards to be available and i will make a decision.

    Anyone had any experience with the 485 or the 6970M using them with revit, autocad, 3d max? Any known compatibility problems?
     
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    Ahh...yea I ordered the 485's
     
  21. wwoods

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    WOOTAGE !! hit Phase 2 today.....

    Order #XXXXX (Phase 2 (Sent for Custom Building / Testing / Burn In & Final QA))

    excellent.......

    and with expedite build and overnight shipping.......
     
  22. r0gue3

    r0gue3 Notebook Geek

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    Mine just shipped yesterday, at local sorting facility for delivery tomorrow :)

    Now, lets just hope that the predicted snow on Sunday morning here in Minnesota doesn't delay my flight to Mexico, and this will be the most perfect weekend :)
     
  23. Kevin

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    You're doing the math wrong. To find percentage, you divide the smaller by the larger, then subtract from 1.0 to find the difference in percentage.

    15.8/21.4 = .738 = 26.2%

    26.2/40 = .665 = 35.5%

    That said, non-synthetic benches have proven the gap is closer to 40%, at least between single GPUs.
     
  24. harmattan

    harmattan Notebook Evangelist

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    If anyone was wondering what it takes to trip the PSU with dual 485ms, I just did after about 50 minutes playing metro 2033 with the folloing OC:

    GPUs at 700/1650
    i7 950 at 3.3ghz

    Glad I already ordered another PSU with converter :)
     
  25. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Harmattan, do you have a kill-a-watt that you can use to get a reading at where it tripped?
     
  26. harmattan

    harmattan Notebook Evangelist

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    Sorry, I don't have one handy. The CPU OC is definitely pushing it over the edge though: I was just able to play an hour of Metro 2033 with my GPUs OC'ed to 700/1650 and CPU at stock.

    Edit: As an addendum, both my GPUs and CPU always stay within a reasonable level under load (65c on GPUs, 73c on CPU)
     
  27. wwoods

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    So in preparing for my new beastie, I find myself in need of a decent pair of speakers. I have a nice set gamming headphones, but what I am looking for is something to use when listening to music. Not REALLY expensive, but something that sounds decent, lets say 100$ or so.....

    any suggestions, with links :)
     
  28. Kevin

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    What headphones do you have? "Gaming headphones" are usually not very good.

    Anyway... get yourself a setup which comes with a subwoofer. Something like this Creative 2.1 setup should work nicely.
     
  29. cookinwitdiesel

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    Klipsch promedia 2.1s are popular as are logitech z2300s
     
  30. wwoods

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    OK, what I meant by "gaming headphones" is headphones I use for gaming, I also use these for listening to music at times.
    Bose AE2 Audio Headphones - Bose Headsets and Headphones are what I have
     
  31. wwoods

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    Hmmmm that looks nice......ordered. Thanks
     
  32. jclausius

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    I'll ask you the same question I asked iceman... Are your CPU temps holding out? Hitting 80C yet?
     
  33. harmattan

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    If you're looking for quality 2.1 speakers multimedia speakers for around $100, I'd suggest these:

    Swan M10

    Got them for my sis as a gift a while back and the sound they produced considering how small they are blew me away. Much better than any Creative or Logitech set I've heard and they look great. Bonus that they are just small enough to fit in a large suitcase.
     
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    I know this is a silly question, but has anyone been able to use this in their lap? Do the foot pegs pretty much make this impossible? Also having 3 open vents, I couldn't much see it sitting flush against pants either without clogging 2 of 3 vents. But the way I use my 8690, I sit it on my lap with the sides on my legs, or my legs stretched out on a bed. Since there are 2 vents in the middle quadrants of the laptop, I can either miss them with my legs in the middle, or on the outside. Although I usually use it on a cooling pad otherwise. I am wondering if anyone has had any luck without having to use a cooler, or having it on a desk.

    I really wish that SB recall didn't happen, I at least had some options. Having the option for SLI and desktop RAM's triple channel, is pretty great, but I put in an order with XoticPC, and that price is just really bothering me. I put the same parts in a 8150 and an 8170, and got about $2000-2100 without shipping. The 7280 was $2600 something before shipping. Honestly I think the X7200 is way better looking than anything Clevo has put out in years, but the price is awful lol.
     
  35. cookinwitdiesel

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    Comparing the 8170 and 7280 is not apples to apples. It cost more for the greater capabilities it offers like sli and a more powerful processor. The cooling and power circuitry is also more robust. I will agree though, it makes NO sense to get a 7280 with one gpu in it if you never plan to go sli.
     
  36. harmattan

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    No, this is not something you'd want to use on your lap for anything more than 5-10 min unless you want depression/heat marks on your thighs and possibly two-headed children.

    I use mine on a ntzx cryo cooler and it fits perfectly. I suppose it would work ok alone on a desk, but I like the extra cooling and the extra 1-2 inch in height.
     
  37. LaptopNut

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    The processor of the 7280 is not necessarily more powerful anymore. and Sandybridge has closed the gap much more. I was strongly considering the 7280 due to the delay / recall but I realise at 5.6 kgs weight and the fact that a single GTX 485M is more than enough, I wouldn't bother.
     
  38. brianvp

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    Yeah I put the order in just for the heck of it, just to have something in the works, but I already have the 8690 im in no hurry, but the 7280 was pretty much the laptop I wanted since last september or whenever kaltan posted those photos on the first few pages of this owner lounge. If the 6970 comes out I could throw another 200 at the laptop for that performance, but I refuse to pay what nvidia thinks is a fair price for 2gpus. One is bad enough. So ill just tell xotic to keep my order on phase 1/2 until that card is out.
     
  39. DGDXGDG

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    thats true.....
    a gtx485m price >= GTX295/HD5970
    two gtx485m price >= ASUS MARS/ARES
     
  40. Dutchos

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    Hi all, just received my new x7200 from Kobalt with i7 950 and SLI 485m's and was curious as to safe temps on the cpu. I installed CPUID and my cpu idles at around 60c - is that normal? cheers
     
  41. Aikimox

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    If you have a browser open with loads of flash on multiple tabs, 60C could be ok, especially if your room temp is high. Otherwise, it's a bit high.
     
  42. jclausius

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    Or you want a hex core processor (which is still beating SB CPUs in threading benches), or perhaps you want to run RAID on 3 or 4 HDDs.

    So, if you care about weight or heat, and don't care about SLI/CF, a hex core processor, or 3 or 4 HDDs, then save your $$$.
     
  43. jclausius

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    Search for my posts in this thread. I posted idle/load temps of my x7200. If your running 60C+ idle, then check the obvious stuff first - laptop is on a hard, firm surface with airflow allowed to get underneath. Make sure your fans are working properly and the vents are not covered by anything.

    It could be something simple as that OR it could be a bad mounting of your CPU heat sink.


    My temps were stock values. I'm still hesitant about OC'ing the CPU due to this. BTW, harmhattan - did you see my post regarding CPU heat? Curious if you got a chance to run H/W Monitor to see your values when slightly OC-ing the CPU.
     
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    Hi every one im new here got my np 7280 last year in dec
    have some questions about oc i ran the xtu program on automatic tuning
    on low and it fryed i think my ram all three of them im just after a up to 3,5 and turbo on 4,0 ghz or 4,0 as standard depends on heat eny one that can help me to set it up manualy via xtu or other systems .
    Have also bin trying to oc the gpus but the driver keep on craching all the time havent tried with the new 266,58 yet becouse the bby is still in service at Sager returning this week, Thx
     
  45. harmattan

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    I top out at 82c load OC'ed at 3.4ghz which is right at the edge of my comfort zone with this cpu. It's strange: my idle temp, however, is also quite high at 61c after running load for a while, even when not OC'ed, and doesn't go down. I've never seen an i7 run this hot at default speeds. I'm going to tear it down tomorrow to check the contact and re-apply thermal paste.

    My GPUs on the other hand run very cool at 63c load and then drop to 39c OC'ed.
     
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    I don't know what anyone's ambient room temp is (mine's about 70-72F or 21-22C), but my CPUs are running about 41-43C this morning minutes after a cold boot. During a 8 hour work day, if things are relatively light - just browsing, doing research, and helping our tech support department, I may get in the upper 40s or low 50s. Under load things do get hot, but within 10-20 seconds after a 4 hour run of Prime, I'm back near idle temps.

    I will say this, the 200+ hours for Arctic Silver to kick in are right on. When this laptop first arrived, my idle/load temps were definitely higher than they are right now. So there was a "break-in" period with that TIM.

    Don't know if any of that helps you or Torment78. It could be a number of factors from bad paste job, component compartments not cooling correctly, bad fans, covered vents, etc.

    Does Fn+1, turn on the fans in the laptop for you? Does that change your low idle temps?
     
  47. Torment78

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    Thx jclausius
    I havent had eny temp probs at all i was just running xtu on auto on the lowest setting it ran smoth did some restarts working fine until about 1h45 min in to the 2 houre setting rebooted froze on the win logo then it just keept doing that over and over again . monitored the heat constantly never hit over 70c have the np standing on a NZXT CRYO LX but the cpu and gpu have bin running quite hot on idle cpu around high 50 thats in c by the way im running the 980x and 12gb 1333mhz.
    of topic abit how do i get the signature when i post have bin trying to find where to fill it in cant find it thx
     
  48. jclausius

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    Find your options page - just click your name -> public profile on any one of your posts should be enough. At the top-left on the gray bar, click "User CP" On the left on that page, you'll see an option to then edit the signature.

    HTH
    Jeff
     
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    Dunno. With the 1333MHz memory, you would think OC'ing would be OK.

    Just thinking about this. On my desktop, the memory chips have actual heat sinks attached. This is not the case in the x7200. I wonder what kind of heat load raising the FSB causes on the mem chips...
     
  50. Torment78

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    I think i would be able to just up the multripel with out tuching the FSB dont know if it was the heat or some thng else that fubard the memmories
    of topic dont have a signature meny on my cp
     
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