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    *** Official Clevo x7200 and Sager NP7280 owners lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by italian.madness, May 26, 2010.

  1. jclausius

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    Definitely!

    One thing I'm having 2nd thoughts about is a 4th HDD instead of the optical drive. Assuming RAID0+1 is handled by the Intel RAID, that would a nice alternative as well.
     
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    FWIW, I do hear an extremely, extremely soft, and very high frequency noise when my "wifi" led goes on/off when browsing. Note, it's not constant, but does occur when browsing around with firefox. Also, this is definitely less db than the hybrids' drive activity when they do something. But in a quiet room with no other ambient noise it can be heard while browsing. Perhaps I can pick up 802.11n signals now. LOL!

    I wonder if it's possible this is same thing you have, but perhaps your hearing is just more acute.
     
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    It will handle 0+1 , just upgrade the RST to the latest on intels site. I thought about it, but I want movies also :)
     
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    Use to have similer thing but the frequency changed depending what i was doing and it was at worst during startup tock of the keyboard and my 2*500gb drives to be shore that it wasent them and the keyboard to see if i could find out where its coming from and it seems like its coming from the speakers seems like somthing is spilling over in to the sound system.check it and see if your is the same.
    Do some one else then me have this electrified feeling when tuching the alu on the palm rest you know just slightly tuching it and moving the finger at the same time it feels like its vibrating i know its sounds strange but its not the fans it feels exactly the same with low speed as with high
     
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    Yes exactly the same here - thought it was static electricity.
     
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    if it was static it should discharge when you tuch it while earthed what i would have thought and it is not like a build up its like a constant :confused:
     
  7. Justin@XoticPC

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    Haha :) Enjoy it! As for the paste it is for future use for the GPU/CPU. Mostly for those that don't purchase the 2nd GPU and install it later.
     
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    cortomaltese, what happens when you put the system on mute? Any noise?
     
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    jclausius
    Do you also have the electric feeling like me and cortomaltese ???
     
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    Yes, even though I mute the system - the sound occurs in exactly the same manner.

    I have my suspicions already though... Still experimenting, but it seems that it might be the secondary, non-SSD drive, which produces the sound.
     
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    Yeah, it would be interesting to know if anyone else has that... :) I am also curious to know how many percent battery wear Hwmonitor or BatteryBar show for your new x7200, if any?
     
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    i just relised that i have herd similar sounds before this is going to sound strange but people that likes car stereo mod will know what i meen dont know the eng word for it but what hapens is you hear the power flow from the generator of the car thru the speakers you can mute them vol up vol down wont go away wont get louder will stay the same you rev the car the pitch will change but not the vol .
     
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    I know exactly what you are talking about, it is caused by lack of shielding on your RCA cables. It causes a high pitched whining sound that never goes away. The best way to solve the problem is to move the RCA cables away from the power wire for the system. Not sure if that really helps in this case though. My 7280 will be here tomorrow, hopefully I will not have either the heat or the whining problems.
     
  14. cortomaltese

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    By the way, if you mentioned speakers - those on my x7200 seem to perform well in terms of the 5.1 surround - but they are incredibly quiet - no matter if I try to watch a movie or play a game - the sound is okay - but not nearly loud enough, even when with the speakers on maximum.

    I wonder what is the volume of your speakers like?
     
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    Thanks for the input, yet in my case the whining does not seem to be constant - it just kicks in for a second or two, every 12 seconds or so. It seems it has to do with the secondary drive (non SSD one).

    Good luck, friend! :) I guess I have the heat issue as well, cpu idles up to 60'C, GPU idles up to 42'C - but I am not at all sure I should worry that much, since those temps seem quite safe anyway. On the other hand, that rhytmical whining sound irritates me a lot... but I think it is a single issue concerning my laptop only.
     
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    cortomaltese
    mine is not constant in that way it comes and goes
    as well but it seems like its dependent on power usage like if im moving from hdd to a nother specialy betwen 2 and 3
    goes away during gaming but they run of my ssd
    The volume is crap and is on every ones it seems became litle better after instaling drv 2.56 havent had a chanse to try the 2.57 in the Np yet here is a link to the drivers Realtek ,and you can tell me if there is eny diffrens in options ,vol or quality
    Ps Download the top one then you will get the Realtek HD sound config in controlpanel
     
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    Thanks for your explanation m8
    Hope as well that there wont be eny prob with yours .
    and who knows mine might be fine now after its bin back to Sager
     
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    One necessary update, concerning the cpu / gpu idle temps:

    Those seem to be greatly influenced by the temperature inside the room.

    I merely opened the window - and my CPU went down to 49'C, GPU to 37'C before I could even blink.

    Probably worth checking that out, guys.
     
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    This seems to be the case very close to mine. Moreover, when I simply disable the secondary drive in the device manager - the whining noise completely disappears!

    Thanks for the tip, mate - just tried the 2.57. I'd say the quality (surround and stuff) slightly improved, while the volume stays the same.

    It is somewhat strange, since the speakers on my tiny Alienware M11x are roughly 3 times louder than the speakers on my behemoth x7200. How could it be? :)
     
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    Did you put in a 3rd drive in yours if you did do me a favor and put that one in the second slot and keep nr 2 out of your system if the sound stops then :( faulty drive if not there is some thing going on with the port .and a nother thing what i was told talking to a tech when mine froze was that you can put your c: drive where ever you want and it will still boot so you can allso try difrent combos .
    Even on the Xcoticpc vid on youtube they complain about the sound level of the speakers .
    I like to game so i got a G35 headset that i use mostley ,
    Ps Try using Vlc That player is quit much louder then most of the others and the are some sound booster progs out there never needed one so dont know eny names if i find one i will post a link and if its a c***k vers il pm you the link
     
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    Not that I've noticed, but bear in mind I've only used the laptop's keyboard/touchpad on 4 or 5 occasions. The x7200 is usually hooked up to a KVM at home or work.
     
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    No, my BIOS doesn't allow me too. I was able to reach one hour of bat life studying pdf's, by underclocking the cpu and locking it to the 12x multiplier; putting the illumination level to the minimum; disabling wifi, and using battery saving mode. I could easily win a few minutes more if it was possible to mod the VID by any mean...
     
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    Here are some screencaps of my x7200 running idle (5 minutes after boot) and at load (4 minutes in Prime 95). This is without the ntxz cryo: running it with the cooler has minimal-no affect on temps. Room temp is about 21c.

    As you can see, temps are pretty ridiculous, especially after running for this short a period. I also see my mobo temp is high (87.8c :eek:), but I'm not sure what the norm is here...?

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
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    Hi guys and gals i havent been on here for quite awhile and i have a problem. I put my 7280 to sleep to upgrade my mom's wireless card, unplugged it and put it be side me to work on her computer. however, now everytime i try to turn it back on it doesn't do anything. I noticed that anytime i try to turn my system on the indicater light showing the laptop is plugged in flashes green, then it turns back to being orange. the battery indicater just stays green and doesn't do anything other than that. I thought about taking out the CMOS battery, but i wanted to ask you guys to see what you guys think. I am running out of ideas and certainly could use some help and i thought about this form.

    thanks
    Travis
     
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    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Thank you for the tests. Yup, something is clearly wrong here. I have a room temp of 28C and none of our test machines reached those temps under Prime95. Maybe something is wrong with the fan control. What if you run the same test with forced fans?
     
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    Thanks for confirming I'm not going crazy. The temps are exactly the same high levels with the fans at full blast ("Full on" in bios) further telling me there something not right here.

    I guess I'm getting in touch with xotic tomorrow. Ugh, like I have time for this... :(
     
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    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    One more question, what max temp are the GPU's hitting under load (Furmark)?
     
  28. Torment78

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    Contact sager direct thats prob what they will tell you to do any way
    Here is the tech number Phone:800.741.2219
    Phone:626.964.4849
    Fax:626.964.2381
     
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    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    You may have gone wrong when putting the machine to SLEEP and not fully SHUTTING DOWN. I would recommend putting back in the original part, shutting down, then trying again.
     
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    no, that was my mom's laptop I upgraded, not mine. I put my laptop off to the side and upgraded my mom's laptop, which it turns out i couldn't perform the upgrade. Sorry for not being completely clear but no i didn't upgrade mine while it was in sleep mode.
     
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    Is it an HP? They have whitelisted wifi cards and anything not on the list will not work
     
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    my laptop is a x7280. my mom's is a gateway/hp. my mom's laptop doesn't take half sized wifi cards.
     
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    gateway and HP are 2 completely separate and competing companies.....I have no clue what you are saying the problem is.....you changed the wifi and it is not booting right?
     
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    What hes bin saying is his 7280 dont work now after he put it to sleep .
    it was his mothers hp he upgraded
    two seperate machines
     
  35. Torment78

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    Sorry didnt meen to bud in
     
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    Have you tried starting up on only the adapter without battery (normal bat i meen) try that let us know if it works
     
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    Gotcha, was trying to figure out why he was posting it here lol

    That could make sense then. Things like this are why I do not bother using the sleep "feature". I just use shut down or leave it on.

    I recommend a power drain. That is removing the system battery and AC adapter, hold power button down for about 10 seconds, then put battery and adapter back in and power up.
     
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    sry i was still on the previous page.

    yes i have tried to bout up without the battery inside but still the same outcome. and thank you for clearing up that im talking about two completely different laptops.
     
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    sry for not mentioning earlier but i have already tried that. a rep also thought it was a bad battery or power supply, but the little green light is still on. so far the rep hasn't got back with me yet with anyother ideas
     
  40. Torment78

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    Good call that was my next recomendation if the first one dident work .

    The same thing has happen to me to with other laptops (not mine)
    where they have put the option go to sleep when screen goes down
    cant understand why people just dont put that it just should turn of the screen or turn of the laptop
     
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    you have a sager build wright have you called sager tech??
    if not here is there number Phone:800.741.2219
    Phone:626.964.4849
    Fax:626.964.2381
    ask for David he has helpt me alot realy compitent guy and very help ful
     
  42. Torment78

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    Are you saying that the green light is still on after all the power has bin plugd out of the laptop???
     
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    this was earlier with the rep from customer support with powernotebooks.com. When i purged the power from the laptop, the rep asked if the power supply is on with a green light as an indicater.
     
  44. Torment78

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    ok i thought that you ment that the battery light was still on your laptop with out enny power
    that would have bine strange
    call the number i posted earlier
    bought my np from them as well
     
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    cool thanks for the info. hopefully i can get this sorted out and not have to send my lappy to sager.
     
  46. Torment78

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    Does any thing happen when you push the power button fans starts or clicks from the inside flashing lights hardrive start spinning.
    Wish i could have fixt mine with out sending it to sager it costed me a arm and a leg
    since they dont pay for international transport over 600 us oneway to be excact
     
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    I would like to upgrade my graphic card driver.
    Where did i can download it ??
    What's the best version ???
     
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    Here are my temperatures after 10~11 min of prime 95 stress testing....
     
  49. jclausius

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    Yes. They are...
     
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    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    Hmm...that is very hot indeed.
     
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