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    *** Official Clevo x7200 and Sager NP7280 owners lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by italian.madness, May 26, 2010.

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    I had the the 10.6.5, worked fine, now i updated to latest version and still no problems. Someday i will install it directly in the hdd.
     
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    in a VM ? vmware player ? 10.6.6 the mouse would not work for me in vmware player, what install did you use ?
     
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    No as i said i have it running n oracle's virtual box.
     
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    icemanmelting
    Have you gotten any ware with your X200 ??
    did you call??
     
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    I actually have 10.6.7 fully running now in vmware, although while doin updates there were several errors that kexts wouldent work....
     
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    It's nice to see everyone so enthusiastic about OSX on the x7200. If you are having problems with various kexts, PM me. I will try and help out the best I can. With iBoot and an Original Snow Leopard disc off the shelf I am running 10.6.7 flawlessly. I have complete "updatability". It seems a bit sluggish if your using apps like iMovie and such, on the whole I am proud of how well it works in VM. I have to get my geekbench score on here. See how it compares to the 990x. :)
     
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    Hey Kenny
    I have everything working but QE/CI in my system.
    I'm using EFI string, and it correctly identifies my cards, but still no QE/CI
    I'm not using graphicsenabler in my boot.plist. I tried that initially to no avail.
    Below is what I used before hex conversion using gfxutil.
    Like I said it correctly identifies both cards, but no acceleration.
    Sound and everything works great.
    I even tried injecting vbios in boot.plist
    my NVCAP is correct.
    I was gonna try with just one card, but don't feel like yankin hardware from my laptop.
    I was gonna try DSDT, but there seems to be some parameters missing when I open IORegistryExplorer.
    Scratching my head here.
    My cards are 480m GTX.

    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
    <!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
    <plist version="1.0">
    <dict>
    <key>PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x3,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)</key>
    <dict>
    <key>@0,AAPL,boot-display</key>
    <string></string>
    <key>@0,can-hot-plug</key>
    <string></string>
    <key>@0,compatible</key>
    <string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
    <key>@0,device_type</key>
    <string>display</string>
    <key>@0,name</key>
    <string>NVDA,Display-A</string>
    <key>@1,can-hot-plug</key>
    <string></string>
    <key>@1,compatible</key>
    <string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
    <key>@1,device_type</key>
    <string>display</string>
    <key>@1,name</key>
    <string>NVDA,Display-B</string>
    <key>AAPL,aux-power-connected</key>
    <string>0x00000001</string>
    <key>AAPL,backlight-control</key>
    <string>0x00000000</string>
    <key>AAPL,gart-width</key>
    <integer>64</integer>
    <key>AAPL00,blackscreen-preferences</key>
    <string>0x00000000</string>
    <key>AAPL01,blackscreen-preferences</key>
    <string>0x00000000</string>
    <key>IONVRAMProperty</key>
    <true/>
    <key>NVCAP</key>
    <data>
    BAAAAAAABwAAAAAAAAAABwAAAAA=
    </data>
    <key>NVDA,Features</key>
    <string>0x108006ff</string>
    <key>NVPM</key>
    <data>
    AQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA==
    </data>
    <key>VRAM,totalsize</key>
    <data>
    AAAAgA==
    </data>
    <key>device_type</key>
    <string>NVDA,GeForce</string>
    <key>model</key>
    <string>1. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 DDL/HDMI</string>
    <key>rm_board_number</key>
    <data>
    AAAAAA==
    </data>
    <key>rm_multiboard_capable</key>
    <data>
    AQAAAA==
    </data>
    <key>rom-revision</key>
    <string>A3</string>
    <key>subsystem-id</key>
    <string>0x00001080</string>
    </dict>
    <key>PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x7,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)</key>
    <dict>
    <key>@0,can-hot-plug</key>
    <string></string>
    <key>@0,compatible</key>
    <string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
    <key>@0,device_type</key>
    <string>display</string>
    <key>@0,name</key>
    <string>NVDA,Display-A</string>
    <key>@1,can-hot-plug</key>
    <string></string>
    <key>@1,compatible</key>
    <string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
    <key>@1,device_type</key>
    <string>display</string>
    <key>@1,name</key>
    <string>NVDA,Display-B</string>
    <key>AAPL,aux-power-connected</key>
    <string>0x00000001</string>
    <key>AAPL,backlight-control</key>
    <string>0x00000000</string>
    <key>AAPL,gart-width</key>
    <integer>64</integer>
    <key>AAPL00,blackscreen-preferences</key>
    <string>0x00000000</string>
    <key>AAPL01,blackscreen-preferences</key>
    <string>0x00000000</string>
    <key>IONVRAMProperty</key>
    <false/>
    <key>NVCAP</key>
    <data>
    BAAAAAAABwAAAAAAAAAABwAAAAA=
    </data>
    <key>NVDA,Features</key>
    <string>0x108006ff</string>
    <key>NVPM</key>
    <data>
    AQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA==
    </data>
    <key>VRAM,totalsize</key>
    <data>
    AAAAgA==
    </data>
    <key>device_type</key>
    <string>NVDA,GeForce</string>
    <key>model</key>
    <string>2. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 DDL/HDMI</string>
    <key>rm_board_number</key>
    <data>
    AQAAAA==
    </data>
    <key>rm_multiboard_capable</key>
    <data>
    AQAAAA==
    </data>
    <key>rom-revision</key>
    <string>A3</string>
    <key>subsystem-id</key>
    <string>0x00001080</string>
    </dict>
    </dict>
    </plist>
     
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    OK any idea why I cant give my OSX image 4 cpu's? even when I allocate in vmware 4 cpus, the OSX sees only 2...


    Model Name: Mac
    Model Identifier: VMware Virtual Platform
    Processor Speed: 3.47 GHz
    Number Of Processors: 2
    Total Number Of Cores: 4
    L2 Cache (per core): 256 KB
    L3 Cache (per processor): 24 MB
    Memory: 4 GB
    Bus Speed: 444 MHz
    Boot ROM Version: IM91.88Z.008D.B00.0901142258
    SMC Version (system): 1.13f3
    Serial Number (system): W87552DW2E2
    Hardware UUID: 00000000-0000-1000-8000-0016174EE065
     
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    @lipoufski
    You are going to need something a little better than an EFI string…. Your card should be one of the supported Fermi cards. What version are you up too?
    You should at least be 10.6.6, I can't help you with 10.6.7 yet. You should also have installed TonyMac's nVidia found:
    tonymacx86 Blog: Updated NVIDIA Drivers for Mac OS X: Install Guide and iBoot-GE
    Once that is installed the "GraphicsEnabler=Yes" flag will work.
    Are you running a 32 or 64bit boot.plist?
    The last thing you could try is trying my branch of Chameleon, I've been adding exact Ven/Dev/Rev Id's for direct injection.
    I can add your card and build your own "Boot0".
    Let me know.

    @wwoods
    It's reading the right amount of cores, even if System Profiler is not. A lot of info is primary resolved in your SMBIOS. I don't have a ton of experience with SMBIOS, but I've found a couple articles. I will get some reading done this morning and get back to you.
    Just to verify how many cores, add the "-v" verbose boot flag and check at the top of the screen for ACPICpu#.
     
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    They haven't told me anything of value regarding my x200. i guess it is lost until i sell it or aquire a new gpu for it. I would rather buy a second 480m than buy the gpu for it. i guess i'm still going to sell it for parts.
     
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    I'm running 10.6.7 it seems I was running an older legacy_kernel. I think I am using the latest from nawcom now. Now the system just stops dead when loading the graphical screen. I tried just the enabler and the same issue.
    I'm using the tonymac vid drivers. I can't seem to get a 64 bit jernel running. Only way I can get the system to load is using arch=i386 maxmem=2048 cpus=1 nv_disable=1 in my boot.plist
    Perhaps it's my Kernel or Kexts? Maybe it's the fact that I'm using 10.6.7? I'm about read to give up on this thing and go buy a macbook. l then think to myself... What fun would thaht be??? Would it be hard to revert to 10.6.6 and if so would it be a simple package install?
     
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    Heh..I thought about buying a macbook a few times in the process, but I am doin this.....er......well its not a need.......no real use for it...oh yea...its fun :) what can I say ...geek at heart
     
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    I understand sorry i couldent help with x200
    hope the sale i going to go good
     
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    So, I bought this thing with 12G memory...dos anyone know what max memory in the MB is ? and where I can buy it.
     
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    dont know the max but @ eurocom you can get it with 24gb but 8gb modules is expesive and to be honest where to buy have no clue
    but its not needed 12gb is over kill as is i think but i like over kill :D
     
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    Right now I am running 3 VM's + my windows7 and am useing 11.5G of the 12G I have. I could use 3 8G modules.......
     
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    Ok i have bin looking for the 8gb modules but its hard .
    i would love to get a hold of some not right now but .
    the type i would like is 1600mhz ones so i get some Oc over head
     
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    Hey I finally got QE/CI working so it seems. On one adapter only, but that is fine with me. This is a laptop I hardly ever plug in externally anyways. Since No SLI support who cares. I have ripple effect when drgging a widget and full HD resolution. In the end all I had to do was use a different kernel. I was using an old one from the install CD. lol
    I then used a single card EFI String, seems as tho there was an issue with the second adapter and how it was being reported. Either way I have everything working now.
    Webcam doesn't work in photo booth for some reason. Works with camtwist.
     
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    today i upgrade to 485m sli and realize that inside the metal paper is stock thermal paste by accident
    so i have been running 480ms gpu>>>mx3>>>"that stock thermal paste">>>heatsink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:
    [​IMG]
     
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    Ok but the green plastic you have aded to keep the thermal pads clean yes ???
     
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    no...they come with the heatsink
     
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    FWIW from the x7200 manual (pp C-2)

    but this was probably written before 8GB mem was starting to be produced.

    Also, the BIOS plays a large part in how much memory can be addressed.. So, who knows what kind of BIOS Eurocom is using to address 24GB. The stock BIOS may already address that, or perhaps they (Eurocom) forked their own BIOS.

    Who knows what the future will look like if/when 16GB sticks are being produced. The industry may be on DDR5 by then.
     
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    Just dont forget to take them of when remounting the heat sinc .
    Becouse that looks scary much like the cover plastic to keep the thermal pads secure and clean
     
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    You can boot using flag "mach_kernel" if you are using some good kexts. Have you tried following my instructions on TonyMac?

    Try:
    "mach_kernel GraphicsEnabler=No PCIRootUID=0 arch=X86_64 -v"

    Keep in mind that kernal flags are caps sensitive.

    It might be better to stick with 10.6.6 for now. I will update to 10.6.7 once I have everything working 100% (Hardware/Full Acceleration). The biggest push is to have a DSDT repository for all Core i7 cpus. I will be collecting and dissecting the ones I have for a while.

    I might be setting up a site for this laptop exclusively running OSX. I have had a bunch of emails/PM's regarding the process. It looks like there is a large enough community to start mainstreaming this. The group can only serve to improve the experience for everyone.

    I will keep everyone here updated on the progress of "OSx7200" (Catchy name!!!).
     
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    Read this after your previous post.... My bad...

    That's great, what flags are you booting with? What gfx cards do you have? Can you send me you EFI string/plist? I will get your second card up and running.

    To get your camera working you need to visit the following:
    macam - USB webcam driver for Mac OS X | Download macam - USB webcam driver for Mac OS X software for free at SourceForge.net
    macam : USB webcam support for Mac OS X

    Its the MaCam project, this is a quote from their home page:
    "macam is a driver for USB webcams on Mac OS X. It allows hundreds of USB webcams to be used by many Mac OS X video-aware applications. The aim is to support as many webcams as possible."

    Great package, and even better group, they are a very active community. Last update was 23 hours ago from the time of this posting.

    Currently, OSX does not support SLI. OpenCL applications in OSX do support Fermi processing across its cores. So big plus there!

    With your EFI string I am not sure if you re getting the full acceleration to take advantage of this, I'm hoping that once your comfortable we can get you to make a backup of your setup and possibly change you Boot0 to my branch and have GraphicsEnabler=Yes with full QE/CI (+Acceleration). This will be based on the Cuda drivers built around Quatro cards.

    That's the road I am traveling now. Looking forward to hearing your story so far.
     
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    Maximum PC | Intel and Micron Get NAND Flash Down to 20nm

    Might be coming sooner than you think. :D

    Probably not in the DDR3 variety though.

    Dual Channel -> Triple Channel -> Quad Channel. What's next?

    Speaking of Triple Channel, have we found anyone with the v.4 Mother board yet? Are there any significant changes?
     
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    I think I may be having issues with some 32 bit extensions. Mainly my USB network adapter. I wonder if there is a way to get the onboard intel wifi working.

    I'd be willing to try your b00t0. I have created a disk that works that I can boot from if I need to change things. OpenGl is working great and QE. I am getting 70fps in World Of Warcraft. I no longer have to set the maxmem parameter in my boot plist and the mach_kernel works fine now. Also was able to remove the cpus=1 parameter as well. I think 64 bit just comes down to some 32 bit kexts as I was saying. I will see if I can find a link to share my files. I am including links for the single in.plist and that works and the dual that didn't. I will try the USB webcam drivers for sure.
    looks like opencl isn't working on the GPU CPU only for now. You have a fix for that perhaps? I'll need to do some more research myself.
    Great work with what you are doing. I'm not a coder by any stretch, but am slowly figuring things out. How are things working with your 485's?
    Lemme know if ya see any problems in my efi strings. BTW when I boot chameleon sees one card as having 4096 memory. I wonder if it's seeing the SLI bridge there? Just a thought.

    Thanks for all of your insight in this project. Definately been an adventure.
    Hotfile.com: One click file hosting: in.plist
    Hotfile.com: One click file hosting: in_dual.plist
     
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    I've corrected your dual card plist, this should alleviate any issues you were having. If you get a chance, please geekbench your system and post your results here or on TonyMac's under X7200.

    Corrected Dual 480M PList

    As for the dual 485M's, its a little more complicated. They are causing all kinds of power issues in AppleGraphicsPower.kext its a matter of correcting how Osx "distributes" and "regulates" power to the cards. Right now I am trying to find a way to fake this process as the Bios and Vbios do all this automagically.

    I think it will be a matter of DSDT modifying. I'm continuing my efforts to find the best solution.

    I am very curious what you are running in your /Extra/Extensions. Maybe there is an alternative you can use for 32bit kext? Or maybe a native kext we can modify till we can come up with a permanent solution?

    This is the my current build RC5 r750 Branch "kennyroody" of Chameleon.

    Chameleon RC5 r750 Branch "kennyroody"

    -Updated nvidia.c to add code for 460M, 480M, 485M (Subvendor Clevo/Kapok)
    -Updated nvidia.h to properly address memory for 485M. (0x0E000FFF-0xFCFFFFFF)
    -No more KP on System Profiler NVDA,CL_*

    Instructables for this provided by TonyMacX86:

    Here

    PS.... How do you guys like the new signature? Made on my OSx7200!!! :)
     
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    No love for 470Ms :(
     
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    ....
    { 0x10DE0E30, "GeForce GTX 470M" },
    ....

    Is already supported with QE/CI. :cool:
     
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    So, I reloaded my system over the weekend and lost my latest nvidia driver with the inf changes for the 485m cards.

    Anyone happen to have them laying around ?
     
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    here you are i only have the inf
    File name: nvcv v270.51.zip File size: 11.32 KB

    the driver you can get here
    NVIDIA DRIVERS 270.51 BETA

    and here is a link to still hot out of the owen 270.61 whql driver 64 bit ver
    http://uk.download.nvidia.com/Windo...ok-win7-winvista-64bit-international-whql.exe

    here is a link to still hot out of the owen 270.61 whql driver 32bit ver
    http://uk.download.nvidia.com/Windo...ok-win7-winvista-32bit-international-whql.exe
     
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    OK, and where do I put the new inf at ?
     
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    Does anyone have a modded inf to support the 485m for nvidia 270.61?
     
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    It is supported IIRC, no need for a modded one.
     
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    REally ? sweet, I may thry that one then.
     
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    if the driver works with out modds pls tell us
     
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    Haha, I was so used to not having 485m support I have stopped even checking to see if support was included. A shameful display!
     
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    I can confirm it has 485M support, just installed it, gonna re-bench and see what changed
     
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    I can bet you the score have gone down it has on my singel 480m
    but its more stable during Oc i got the clocks up to 600-1200-1200
    with out crashing the driver over this clock it crashes
    but still at max i dont get more then 13600
    Strange
    before i got 13903 @ 560-1120-1200
     
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    kennyroody Notebook Enthusiast

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    Good to hear 485M support is becoming more common place :) Was starting to get worried for a bit.

    Edit*
     
  43. wwoods

    wwoods Notebook Deity

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    Actually, all my scores went up, only by a few hundread, not enought for me to bother changing my sig, but still improved and its only a beta driver....will see when gets released

    3dmark06:23235 3dmark Vantage:27279 3dmark11:5471 <<< New driver
     
  44. lipoufski

    lipoufski Notebook Guru

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    Well I gave both your chameleon branch and the efi-string a whirl, and still having issues with the second card. My laptop display is attached to the second card, and I wonder if that has something to do with it. Also when not using EFI and trying graphicsenabler it shows one of the cards as having 4096 mb mem. I flashed a voltage mod a while back, and I just wonder if I screwed somethin up there. Also do you know what is required for openCL support? Is there a tweak or shouldn't it be enabledwith the nvidia drivers?
     
  45. Patrck_744

    Patrck_744 Burgers!

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    ManuelG from nVidia Forums said that the new ones are just a minor update to the 270.51 drivers.
     
  46. Torment78

    Torment78 Notebook Evangelist

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    If you installed 270.61 its wqhl driver not a beta
    if it wasent that one you installed i put some links on a post earlier and they are copied from nvidias site
     
  47. Torment78

    Torment78 Notebook Evangelist

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    they did a big dif on my clocks and on the vantage scores
    but they seem to be much more stable during Oc then 270.51
     
  48. Patrck_744

    Patrck_744 Burgers!

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    Yeah, some people @ Guru3D were saying that their cards ran cooler too.
     
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    iT was the link you posted
     
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    Been playing Shogun 2 have we ? :p A SHAMEFRUULLLLL DISPRAYYYYY!
     
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