*** Official Clevo x7200 and Sager NP7280 owners lounge ***

Well, getting OSX to run in my VM was fun and all, but TBH I have no use for it....it was a nice novel fun time for a bit, but thinking I will reclaim those 40G, I have it on my WHS backed up if I decide to put it back

 

DESCRIPTION:
Kingston's KHX1600C9S3K2/8G is a kit of two 512M x
64-bit (4GB) DDR3-1600 CL9 SDRAM (Synchronous
DRAM) memory modules, based on sixteen 256M x 8-bit
DDR3 FBGA components per module. Total kit capacity
is 8GB. Each module kit has been tested to run at
DDR3-1600 at a low latency timing of 9-9-9 at 1.5V. The
SPDs are programmed as specified in the Timing Parameters
section. Each 204-pin SODIMM uses gold
contact fingers and requires +1.5V. The electrical
and mechanical specifications are as follows:
• JEDEC standard 1.5V ± 0.075V Power Supply
• VDDQ = 1.5V ± 0.075V
• 800MHz fCK for 1600Mb/sec/pin
• 8 independent internal bank
• Programmable CAS Latency: 5,6,7,8,9,10,11
• Posted CAS
• Programmable Additive Latency: 0, CL - 2, or CL - 1
clock
• Programmable CAS Write Latency(CWL) = 8(DDR3-
1600)
• 8-bit pre-fetch
• Burst Length: 8 (Interleave without any limit, sequential
with starting address “000” only), 4 with tCCD = 4
which does not allow seamless read or write [either
on the fly using A12 or MRS]
• Bi-directional Differential Data Strobe
• Internal(self) calibration : Internal self calibration
through ZQ pin (RZQ : 240 ohm ± 1%)
• On Die Termination using ODT pin
• Average Refresh Period 7.8us at lower than TCASE
85°C, 3.9us at 85°C < TCASE < 95°C
• Asynchronous Reset
• PCB : Height 1.18” (30.00mm) double sided
component
• RoHS Compliant
PERFORMANCE:
• CL(IDD): 9 cycles
• Row Cycle Time (tRCmin): 48.125ns (min.)
• Refresh to Active/Refresh Command Time (tRFCmin): 160ns
• Row Active Time (tRASmin): 33.75ns (min.)
• Power: 2.399 W (operating per module)
• UL Rating: 94 V - 0
• Operating Temperature: 0o C to 85o C
• Storage Temperature: -55o C to +100o C
TIMING PARAMETERS:
• DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9 @1.5V
• DDR3-1333 CL8-8-8 @1.5V
• DDR3-1066 CL6-6-6 @1.5V
just orderd 3 what you guys think

 

Shesh...for a miniute there I thought you said you found 8G sticks and I was gonna be so all over that.....

 

no i was just trying to get un ide if they are good or awrage with or without xmp but i saw some post negative about xmp so i whent with out xmp and these ones are faster if i look at some of the numbers .If i see 8gb sticks you guys here will be first to know

 

yah....when choosing xmp profile u cannot change uncore votage............
if you change it xmp will go back to preset

my machine can do 2g*3 160*25 1600cl9 with that uncore but now i upgrade to 4g*3 then things goes wrong

 

Speaking of 8GB sticks, I suppose no one will really know if the current BIOSs available for the x7200 will work with mem above 12GB... That is until they try it out.

 

but the eurocom have the 24gb as a option so the bios shouldent be a prob i think

 

i bought the Hyperx without xmp there is some dif betven with xmp and without this is the ones i bought
800MHz fCK for 1600Mb/sec/pin
Programmable CAS Latency: 5,6,7,8,9,10,11
Row Cycle Time (tRCmin): 48.125ns (min.)
• Refresh to Active/Refresh Command Time (tRFCmin): 160ns
• Row Active Time (tRASmin): 33.75ns (min.)
• Power: 2.399 W (operating per module)
• UL Rating: 94 V - 0
here is the XMP mems i didnt buy
667MHz fCK for 1333Mb/sec/pin
Programmable CAS Latency: 5,6,7,8,9,10
Row Cycle Time (tRCmin) 49.5ns (min.)
Refresh to Active/Refresh Command Time (tRFCmin) 160ns
Row Active Time (tRASmin) 36ns (min.)
Power 2.225 W (operating per module)
UL Rating 94 V - 0

 

NEW Synaptics Touchpad Driver 15.2.20: Synaptics drivers

 

hellow
i was wondering does anybody knows what is the name of the screen of this monster? is it the same one that being used in Asus g73?? its seems its same?

 

today i try 3d vision with 270.61 and unfortunately when in sli 3d wont work......3d glass left eye goes completely dark............
but no prob when single gpu and 3d vision discover can work well both in sli/single

 

Hi all,
A few weeks ago I got my hands on my first clevo x7200 but unfortunately things didn't go too smoothly then. I have just received my replacement unit with a complementary CPU upgrade, but this one too seems to be having some problems also. Everything runs fine with sli disabled, but once enabled, I get a 30hz-ish constant flickering when running any graphic application. I suspect it may well be a loose sli cord, and if so, can anyone give me some pointers on how to reseat it correctly?
Just to note, I have tried the latest nVidia drivers, the old stock ones, as well as a couple modded ones from laptopvideo2go (using driver sweeper doing clean installs). Something worth mentioning, even whilst installing the official nVidia ones, I would sometimes get the blue screen of death.
Another smaller hiccup is when running games etc, the num lock, caps lock indicators go haywire and the system starts beeping at me for ages, anyone know how to disable this? Thanks in advance,
Tom

 

its either Hannstar HSD06A5
or HSD173PUW1

 

Okay I had a look through other threads and saw someone else with a similar problem so what I did was remove the battery from the machine and sli seems to work now without any flickering. The problem now is that the beeping happens after only a couple of minutes of gameplay before promptly shutting down. I'm not running anything intense enough or for long enough for the PSU to trip, nor is the PSU getting any hotter than you would expect from a machine like this. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

it sounds like hardware failure i would recomend RMA

 

Hellow i have question, i was thnking to purchase a core i7 970 and replace it with my 960? Will core i7 970 increase the heat too much due to having two more cores? Or it wont make any difference? I am using a 129GB ssd as primary and 750gb 7200prm as secondary, so i thought 970 would helo to improve the generall perfermence of booting and loading apps...

 

It would actually probably be cooler due to the 32nm process

 

Yes it will deffo be cooler in all applications!

 

I am trying to decide between the asus g72sw-3de and one of these bad boys. The one thing thats holding me back is that i cant find anywhere that says if these are 3d or not. I have never bought a gaming laptop before so i want it to be REALLY sweet. Clearly these are better since they have the dual cads technology but are these 3d?

 

No 3d im afraid these are the better buy any way more choises more performance more storage more ram and more upgrades for the future if you dont go all out strait from the gate with 990x cpu 2x485m gpus 3xssd or what ever combo you want up2 24gb ram tv recciver this is my opinion any way

 

or u can wait for asus g74sx......but its gtx560m definitely slower then 485/470m

 

can you even connect it to a 3d monitor? I thought I read somewhere that you can connect an hdmi1.4 port to an external moniotror 3d? Or does anyone know if there is a 3d capable laptop with sli technology. I was looking at the asus g73sw but I've heardthe graphics card in that isn't that great so I was gona go wit somthin a lil better. I'm honestly new to buying laptops but it seems like the clevo is much better, dual cards, the i960 processor sounds better but I dunno for sure. One thing I don't kno for sure is do these dual cards actually run simultaneously or is it just one at a time. Thanks for anyhelp.

 

My personal opinion, is the 3d thing is a nice novelty....but just that a nice novelty. As for does SLI both cards run at same time, yea they do. Also, the chip in these clevo's/sagers is a DESKTOP cpu, so when you compare that ASUS/AW/OTHERBRAND processor to this understand that those are laptop processors vs a desktop processor.

 

The M18x with a 2920xm should be as powerful as the desktop i7 CPUs though (especially for gaming, some productivity may do better when the 6 cores are there)

Love the SB chips hehe

 

Along the same topic, would I be able to use the same heatsink/fan that my core i7 950 uses if I upgraded to a core i7 970?

 

yes, there is no alternative, that is the only CPU heatsink designed for the x7200 period

 

Thanks! For some reason I thought there were two designs, one for the 45nm cpus and one for the 32nm. That makes more sense though

 

I looking forward to benching vs the m18, non-OC vs non-OC.

On a diff note, scook, I am looking at getting those 750GB Scorpio Blacks for my raid5.

 

Nice, I am interested in hearing how they do. When I get an M18x I will have an SSD as my primary and one of those as my secondary

 

any one know if the 120hz alien screen would fit in the x7200 ???sice wise i mean

 

PM Speedy Gonzalez, he was gonna try to do it. I dont remember if he did though.

 

You used to have a W90 didn't you? Seems like I remember you being over that way. Decided to pick one of these up so I reckon I'll be seeing you around. Hello to all as well.

 

I have had two desktop cpu lappies before this one and in my experience heat is the enemy with these things, especially with dual cards. Consider the 970 which should run cooler. Intel is getting to where they are binning down on these and you should see lower temps with the smaller process. You wont notice a thing in day to day use and for the most part you will need benchmarking to see a gain but my guess is it will pay in longevity. That is the way I went.

 

Oh god...I remember those, yea I had one....TBH one of the worst supported systems I ever owned. I will never again deal with ASUS after that fiasco.

On a better note, I am quite the happy camper with this Sager...I use it for both work and play...and at work I put it through its paces.....matter of fact, I am alreay looking to change my drives from WD Scorpio Black 500GB's in raid5 to 750GB's in raid5, and if I can find it affordibly, up he memory.

BTW...welcome

 

Yeah, you were on your own with that one. On spec it was all there but in the end it didnt come together. Still it worked well as you know if you were willing to fight for it. As to the clevo's, I've had plenty of them and gotten good service out of most of them. One of the desktop cpu units had thermal issues that were never resolved and one had the same problem with the gpu s(GTX8800) but overall they have been pretty good to me.

I did this one with a solid state/storage setup. I have gone back and forth configuring raid or just a bunch of discs on spinning platter laptops and never seen any real difference as I could notice clicking around. I could prove significantly improved performance benchmarking but the numbers dont mean much to me any more, its about real world. This is my first ssd and I have to say I can notice that. It sucks though that I have to put all my music off to the storage drive. I would have loved to get some pop with that. Too pricey for my blood to get to the capacity I need for this go around sadly.

 

I just wanted to send a quick shout out to everyone. Thank you all for the emails, I am now getting so much feedback with DSDT's, SSDT's, Ven-Dev info. You guys rock!

It's definitely going to take a while to compile all the info I've received into something useful. I greatly appreciate everyone's enthusiasm in making OSx7200 a reality. (Plus now a couple of other Clevo computers )

Keep it up, the more info the merrier.
Once again, Thank you all,

~KennyRoody

 

I did raid5, but it has been a trip. I origionally had raid5 with the new hybred XT's and that was nothing but trouble. The disks kept failing, I almost sent the unit back because both me and Xotic (the reseller) thought it was the raid chip. After a bunch of research by me and other, I decided to try WD Scorpio disks and all has been fine since. What we learned was that XT + raid5 = bad juju.

I did raid5 for the data integrity, since I use this beast for work as well as play.

 

I had read that about the xt's, a weird one for sure.

 

I see the wiki page changd a bit...no drivers ?

 

The page was nominated for deletion, but eventually won out. Someone edited out my drivers / bios table as they say wiki is not a support forum.

I'm working on a presentation that I can slip the components/drivers back into the page that will not set off other wiki editors.

 

I see......

 

Bummer, hadn't got to updating drivers yet and was just going to get to it today. Guess I'll have to look a little harder to track them down.

 

Look in the "history" and you can see where they were edited out.

FWIW, I've finished the 1st paragraph over lunch. Lemme know what you think. Also, anyone have an non-copyrighted image of their baby they want to use in the "infobox?"

I still need to add some more data about size/heat from reliable articles, and then try to figure out how I can list the drivers w/ out someone from wiki telling me it has to go. I'll keep you updated.

 

it looks realy nice i have pics from the inside of it from taking out one of the GPUs you can use if you want File name: pics.rar File size: 24.90 MB

 

updated all the time: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/573379-clevo-driver-thread.html

 

I appreciate the link...BUT...what is "station-drivers" ? That some third party ? I REALLY prefer the other way that jclausius had his set up, nothing personal, but jclausius had links going directly to the download from, for example, Intel, not some 3rd party that I have no way of knowing what they may have done to the driver.

 

They get all kinds of driver from all the hardware manufacturers.

Station-Drivers: le site de drivers, bios, firmwares avec un forum d'aide

I've been using this site [2007] when I still had a desktop. Since they can get a hold of drivers that only the devs have access.

 

Thanks. That was the goal - drivers from the OFFICIAL source. Back in the day, I used to reference windrivers dot com. But, I only used it as a reference, and then downloaded drivers directly from the manufacturer of the device. The wiki idea is a quick way to combine this into one spot.

But to each his own. Just because that is how I prefer to work, doesn't mean others should. And I'm also not knocking third party driver sites. If someone finds that site works for them that is great.

In any case, I have a bit of research to do as there are a bunch of wiki-rules about a page containing too many third party external links. Once I understand how it works, I'll work to get the table back up, but unless anyone is an expert at wiki editing / rules, it will take some time so I can understand the rules and adding the listing of drivers w/ out someone removing it the next day.

 

Just took a second look at that page, and to be honest, while I appreciate the effort that was put into it, to many things are missing, to many issues with compatibility....think gonna pass.

 

WOW, isnt THIS special , went to grab crystal disk mark and look at the goodie there serving up there now.....