*** Official Clevo x7200 and Sager NP7280 owners lounge ***

I saw it when you posted mine was even worse mine had so much paste it was rediceles im going to try the mod with a shims of about 0.6 or 0.7 mm thick lapp the copper on both sides and then put it in and since my gap was already extreme i lapped my CPU and jesus the CPU it took about 40min just for it to start tuching the center and thats with 600 paper took 3h to get it flat and finish of with 2500 paper dident do final mirror finish since i still have to do the shims would love to move down the org copper 1.1mm and lapp that insted the temps would be great and i also didnt have ic diamond at home so i went with arctic silver 5 and thats norm 2-4c higher temp then IC with the gap and the inferior paste i have wile wrighting this temp on top core is 49c so i can only imagine what the temps would be with IC and a proper connecting and lapped heat zink

Mine did as well but only aprox 9-10mm in the center and i put on what i norm put in a desktop but i had to trippell the amount at least to get it to spreed all the way

 

the newest driver is
270.61 whql here is a link
64bit win7
NVIDIA DRIVERS 270.61 WHQL

32bit win7
NVIDIA DRIVERS 270.61 WHQL

Newest beta release 275.27 works great using it wright now here is link
64bit win7
NVIDIA DRIVERS 275.27 BETA

32bit win7
NVIDIA DRIVERS 275.27 BETA

By the way have you checked if you dont have screensaver that crashes or some power saver mode that also crashes .
install new driver and if it still happens then its prob one of the other two
and also check so you dont have set by mistake shutdown when idle both in win and the power saver software you get with the machine

 

Just a heads up Torment...if you lapped the CPU heat spreader it self you just voided the warranty on a $1k CPU.....just a heads up

 

Yep i know read all info before starting but needed to be dun
on a nother note the new beta driver works great for oc just tried it out and top clock on my singel 480m hit 600 core 1200 chader 2600mem stabel
no driver crashes. Before my top was 560 core 1120 chader 2500mem
so a good increase i must say i just wish i had still my sli so i could see what
top Vantage score would have bin
still waiting for my 2 485 to arrive and also my hyper x 1600mhz non XMP ram to arrive

 

Another issue I'm having with the heatsink is the stand-offs on the motherboard and or HS screws easily become stripped and the screws aren't able to be tightened fully. I'm seeing 64-67c idle and high 90s with throttling now. Unfortunately, my multiple attempts to solve the problem by re-pasting and re-seating have likely only made things worse. I've contacted Sager about the issue and expect I'll need to RMA.

 

if they wont take it back then you can always redrill the stand off care fully
retread half or full size bigger get some thing i think got the same name in english and swedish Helicoil its like a spring but not its steal retreading material that you put in the new tread you made and that will make it stronger than before but same size as the org screws here is a link

Heli-Coil | HeliCoil Inserts | Helicoils Screw Thread Inserts | Emhart Teknologies
here is a nother link but the vid is shoving for large bolt sizes but small as in the laptop should be same system but a bit more sencetive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFYa6sjhh_E

 

I'd rather let them do it since I think something was screwy (no pun intended) with the heatsink screws and connectors when I first got the laptop and I don't like the idea of drilling something so close to the mobo. In any case, thanks for the info -- that's very helpful. Rep'ed!

 

Thanks mate

 

Thanks for the information!

 

Has anybody upgraded their x7200/NP7280 LCD to a 120Hz 3D compatible model? Or is that a special order that needs to happen on the resellers side?

 

Not posted on Sager, and Clevo is hiding the files in their FTP site.

If you have the link, Thanks!!

 

PM sent to you...

 

Heya, just a note, my Scorpio Black 750's will be here tommarrow and I will set em up in raid5, any benchies ya want to see from em ?

 

I actually got one myself now in my shiny new M18x

Here is a quick hard disk comparison I did, it is an awesome drive!

 

Got a link for the m18 forums ? Pretty impressive, wonder what kind of increase I will see, I will take a snapshot of before with the 500G in raid 5 and a after with the 750, amd grats on the new system...looks like a beastie I probably would have waited myself if I couldent have got work to toss in some $$ to help defray the cost of mine.

BTW took ya advice and picked up a 14' alienware on the discount site, awesome idea.

 

If you got a .edu email you can get a free xbox 360 with it right now

May need to re-order haha

 

You are the one scook9...I want to see what the 2920XM can REALLY do...
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Unfortunately not as much as it could....dell locked the TDP/TDC in the bios. Fortunately they gave it some moderate headroom, have not done any overclocking yet, have to get it all configured up first.

 

What about the OC 2920XM Overclocked Turbo Boost to 4.0GHz that Alienware is selling?
_

 

I'll get back on topic now...
_

 

That is there. And not much of an overclock actually haha

This processor is a beast though....I am going to have fun with it (And loving the power usage on 32nm CPUs!!! 0.778V idle )

 

Might have to do that, resell the xbox since I dont have a TV

 

back to x7200.......
so there is np7282, but anyone have this type of x7200?

 

You could pipe it to hdmi in if your x7200 has it? My M18x has HDMI in, I need to play with it still

 

I have monitors with HDMI I suppose would work,.

On a different note all together, any one have experiance with acronis true-image ? reviews ? good ? bad ?

 

I have used Acronis for a few years, works like a charm for me. I have always used it for moving OS images between disks when upgrading HDDs/SSDs. You can go from HDD to SSD or vice versa with ease. To the OS it just looks like you rebooted, it is the equivalent of a "dd" command in linux (I believe Acronis actually employs linux) except it can adjust your partitions and stuff as well. The Clone tool is all I use but it is extremely smart and capable

 

scook9,

I'm not up to speed on the new Scorps specs, but was your 320GB and 750GB on the same controller? Why the big difference on sequential read/write scores?

 

They were on the same system as non system drives. Benched those all on my desktop.

That is a couple year old 320GB so the newer ones may be faster. The 750GB is a 2 platter design with 375 GB/platter and a newer disk controller (same one as the Caviar Blacks). I believe the 320GB is a 2 platter a well so 160 GB/platter. It is possible the new ones are a single 320GB platter, I have now way to be sure. I got a new 320GB Scorpio Black in my M18x that is now a spare drive for me, I will test it too to see how it stacks up against the older one.

I simply chalk it up to it being a better and newer drive with improved technologies.

 

Sorry, not here.

Differences of pics from my system:
a) My volume slider on the "touch panel" has only 12 levels.
b) Three vents on the "hinge" from the front side (including 1 above the slider)

a) Power button has the universal power symbol - "3/4 circle" w/ vertical line instead of the word "START."
b) The speaker below the power button is not a full rectangular grid of holes, but rather a pattern of holes. Of what I'm not sure.

a) Hinge has three vents
b) Back has diagonal vents all the way across except for small portion around power port.

 

Well I made 3 runs of crystaldiskmark 3 with the raid5 setup with the WD Black 500GB's, and have the 750's installed now, image restored. I will run the same 3 tests with those after work, since the system is under heavy use now, tests woud be screwed. Will post all 6 screenis in the morning. I can say the system FEELS snappier (if thats possible)....VM's seem to load a bit faster...we shall see what the numbers say.

 

It is an impressive drive, quiet and low power too, all around win in my books

 

Just realised. initilizing this 1.5TB Raid5 gonna take for ever......oh well

 

Other thing is now I have a crap-ton of laptop disks I dont and probably wont use, all either new in sealer or slightly used....


UG

That doesnt include the other pile that has to go to the disk shredder.........

 

@scook9...I think a lot of us would like to see some bench comparisons between yours with the 2920XM and the 990x with SLI or Crossfire.
Anyone with a Sager 7280/x7200 up for this...it should liven up this thread a little...
_

 

Sure I will bite, but 1 dont have the newest vid driver on at moment, and I am not gonna OC my system......and it will have to wait till morning, or whenever I wake up, I am looking at a 12hr day at work right now.....

 

Can't agree with that more! I hope somebody does OC their x7200 in here and beat 7500 out of the 3dmark 11)

 

Heya Scook, you said your 750's run cooler ? I donno, mine are definately a few (3 or so) degrees warmer.....may be because I have 3 of em running....

Overall , initial impressions I am verry pleased. 3 VM's running right now....one doin heavy compiling and I am watching seek times...looking better than the 500's I had. Dont think I could justify the average user who doesnt push their system the extra expence for it, but IMHO for me was worth it.

 

If I dident rely on this for work, I would go for it....

 

7500 is all your goal is for 3DMark11?

I expect to break 8k

 

That's the spirit...

 

I'm sure you would, after a decent OC of both CPU and GPU But i didn't see to much OC results of the latest x7200 systems! So 7500 is a starting point

 

3dmark 11 is coreless.......

stock 980x
=2920xm*1.48 in vantage
=2920xm*1.23 in 11

and 980x 3.33g oc 4.13g only improves physis score from 92xx to 99xx


btw waiting someone record a 3dmark11 p run by 6970m in hd.........
want to figure out what amd put in catalyst

 

As promised Sccok, here are my HD benchies with the old raid5 w/WD Black 500GB and the new raid5 w/WD Black 750GB's

 

Feel like it was a good upgrade?

 

Yea..I do....I sold my used 500GB's for about 60% of what I paid for em...so I am ok with it. The numbers are not THAT big of a improvement, but, but considering I dont think I am gonna find anything better. While opening and closing VM's last night at work, I could definately tell the diff. Granted I have changed a few other things regarding the VM's also, but overall it was a good upgrade.

The space was a nice addition and it is snappier. Still debating how to sped it up, right now my stripe size on the raid5 is 64kb, I am debating a 128kb stripe but not sure.

Open to opinions.....

 

larger stripe will boost sequential numbers but slow down other stuff

I found that 16kb or 32kb were good options but that was with SSDs, no experience on raid and HDDs lol

 

Yea its a fine balance no doubt.

 

Heya jclausius,

did you ever upgrade ya XT's to SD25 ? I am cureious, my wife is running XT's at SD24 and I still havent.

 

No. "If it ain't broke..." Well, you know the rest.

In regards to your RAID 5 config, at first glance 128KB seems like it would be too big. I don't know if you use snapshots, but it seems once you have a VM configured, it wouldn't grow too much. But then again, I don't know how your using the VM in your Q/A and testing process.

However, with those 750GB monsters, perhaps wasting some space with a 128KB stripe size is not as big of an issue.

 

OK, I have been searching google and really cant find a good answer, so I pose it here:

I am wondering about raid5 stripe size.....I am currently at 64kb, debating 128. the drives I am useing are WD Black 750GB. I have mixed files, its the OS drive also so...I have several VM with file sizes 2GB+...

Looking for some opinions here.....

Thanks

Well, after doin some readong, seeing my OS is on the raid5 array as well, it seems that 64kb stripe size is best and I have squeezed all I can out of these things. That said, I am currently initializong the array which should speed it up also.