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Well...guess that products can change a bit over 10 days. Oh well, I'm glad to have the Matte screen (although, I think I'll be trying to pricematch a bit down).

EDIT: Well, they probably would have done it until it shipped 2 days ago. Oh well, would have only saved like $11

 

I figured the 560M would be over 0.95V, glad to see the hunch was right.
Now if only I can get a vbios dump from the 560M to tinker with at some point I'd love to check the voltage tables against the 460M's and adjust the voltage accordingly to see what we can push it to with the same 1V.

 

Before I start trying all of this OCing, I wanted to hear from other 560m'ers who have tried it. I will probably try and do a 5% first and move on, but I don't want to overdo it.

 

You can't "overdo it". With the voltage locked, all you are doing is bumping up the clocks until it becomes unstable. I can guarantee you that the ram will max around 1400Mhz, there is no difference between the 460M and 560M in terms of memory. Other 560M users have confirmed this.

I would start at 1600MHz shader and keep moving up until 3DMark crashes before it finishes.

 

loop FurMark is the best way to test stability

 

Do you think that trying to OC on a 3dmark 11 is a little too demanding and I should use vantage?

 

HOLY Sh!t! My screen is broken out of nowhere. I keep the notebook in a protected padded backpack and I opened it today after traveling with the backpack rested on a seat and I have huge black blobs and cracks in the screen. I never dropped it or put pressure on it. Will my warranty cover this? or am I f*cked? I can't believe how it broke - I swear I didn't drop it or put it anywhere where something could have landed on it or anything.

I'd like to add that I have been carrying notebooks in this backpack for 6 damn years without any problems - and I have dropped the sh!t out of this backpack when I had my old sh!tty computer.

 

Nothing is too demanding, that's the whole point, stress your machine as much as possible to see if its stable.

That being said 3DMark11 probably won't stress as much as Furmark or OCCT. Usually with Furmark if you can survive five minutes at full screen native res you're in good shape. Just look for "artifacting" or streaks of black or color. That means its overstressed and may lock up. You can probably safely start at 10-15% overclock then move up in increments from there. Just stress one component at a time though. GPU first, then when you've maxed, then do shaders (although shaders should be at least 2x GPU clock), then do RAM last. Then try them all together and tune one at a time moving backwards if it locks up with all three at their max.

 

As I mentioned above, I can't move the GPU clock at all. It is greyed out. Electric said I have to move the shader so I'll try that. Post my results soon.

 

The reason why I recommended 3DMark was so that some comparable numbers about the 560M could come out of it But yes, Furmark is the ultimate burn in. Remember however, just because certain clocks artifact or lock up Furmark doesn't mean that they wouldn't be stable enough to play in some games. MSI Afterburner also comes with Kombuster which does the same thing as Furmark. MSI Afterburner can also change your core, mem, and shader clocks and voltage.

 

Hey if you get a free moment can you dump the vbios with this?: nvflash_windows_5.95.0.1.zip

Theres a backup.bat you can double click to get vbios.rom, I'm looking for anyone who wants to dump that so I can dig in the 560M's vbios.

 

Will that change my Bios in any way? When you say backup, do I need to backup my system?

Anyway here are my results for a 10% OC for the shader, didn't have time for the memory yet. Anyway, from what I have heard these temps are fine, is that true?

 

It backs up the firmware image on the video card to a file, it'll be about 60kb and only take at most a few seconds, the firmware file has no personal info and is identical across all of the same models of a particular video card, hope that explains it a bit better.

 

Sure, sorry i am full of questions. I just want to make sure i dont do something horrible to a really expensive machine (not refering to your bios thing, just in general i know i am askinv a lot of dumb questions). I guess i can somewhat repay you with these little tasks lol. I will do it tomorrow morning because i just turned it off. And im typing this from my phone.

 

If you have a lot of questions about OC,

then don't do it.

 

This is sound advice. It's great to learn about how to do it, but just be aware that improper settings could damage hardware. It's unlikely (you're more likely to just have it shut down or not boot until you reset it), but it could happen. OC'ing has extremely close tolerances on mobile hardware especially due to the nature of the cooling and size.

 

OCing should have no major reprocussions for him. There is no way to really damage the system if he stays within the limits we have suggested in this thread (800-900MHz core, 1400MHz mem, 1600-1800 shader) and not touching voltage. Neither will dumping firmware or doing anything weird in the bios. The only permanent damage would be flashing the wrong bios which he would have to go out of his way to do.

BTW, if you are running furmark, I would absolutely recommend you elevate your laptop (with a cooler or stand or something) so the intakes have room to breathe and also press Fn + 1 to turbo your fans. Furmark will skyrocket your temps, it's best to keep them as low as you can for the longterm health of your card.

 

As long as you don't push it too far you will be ok. You have many members here that have given great advice. You will be fine

 

Not running Furmark, and I will run fans on turbo good idea. And to Richteralan, I want to one, learn how to OC, and two to get the most out of my machine. Like electric said that if I do it right, then I should have no reprocussions. I have also read that a lot of people were able to OC 10% without effecting temps at all so I thought, why not just do it. Atmosk, I tried double clicking your batch file and it said that no Nvidia adapters were recognized, am I doing something wrong?

Were the temps alright? Around 80 degrees should be what I stop at correct? 90 degrees is like danger zone I have heard.

 

Whats the point of OC'ing if u can already run everything on Ultra?

I'm gon wait to mess with that until i need it.

 

Ultra lol? Wait until I get TW2...People were saying that with a OCed 560m, they only got like 30-40 FPS on high...

 

OC'ing is an enthusiast sport, it's not really a question of 'why' it's a question of 'why not' , with the cooling on these machines and the quality of the hardware it's not much of a risk either.

It's always fun to see upper limits of hardware even if it's not something you explicitly need.

 

Atmosk, read through my entire post about the bios you might of missed it in the middle of the paragraph.

 

Have fun!

 

I won't go as far as qualifying OC an "enthusiast sport".

 

besides the Fn + 1 turning on the "omg, laptop goes crazy" fan-mode.. what other special function key features are there??? (other than like those volume up/down, sleep, lcd/projector buttons etc etc)

Thanks

 

That was my mistake, the build of nvflash I gave you didn't support GF116, this one should: nvflash_windows_5.100.0.1.zip

If this one gives the same error then don't worry about it, it can always wait, thanks for helping with it.

 

Well I moved the shader to 1650 and in the middle of 3dmark 11 screen went black, restarted and now its at defaults so obviously mine doesn't go 10%... Unless I did something wrong.

^^^ Atmosk: It worked, how do you want me to get the rom file to you. Megaupload?

 

I don't get your 10% and 1650 shader clock.

The default shader is 1350. 10% above 1350 is 1485.

1650 is more than 20% of OC.

heh

 

My default is 1550 shader... Then I multiplied it by 1.1... Which would have been 1705 but I went with 1650 and it crashed..

 

ah ok forgot you got a 560M.

 

i ll order this week an ati 6970m and the 180watt psu for np8130!!i ll post some benhmarks and screenshots when i installed it!!!

 

Glad that build worked, I'd say mediafire or filebeam would be good but if you prefer megaupload that works too.

Thanks for the help Vapkez.

 

Here is your link.
vbios.zip
vbios.rom

And I am not afraid to admit that I was wrong, 3dmark just froze in between demo and benchmark (I now know how to turn on just benchmark lol). And 1650 worked fine, I will try 1705 and prolly leave it there if all goes well.

 

Don't ignore these tiny instabilities.

 

The benchmarks didn't even begin to load though, is that the GPU's fault?

 

Much appreciated Vapkez.

 

Doesn't have to be GPU's problem.

But it can be other problems related to your OC.

OCing one component can have a certain amount of effect on all other components.

P.S. one simple step to confirm if this is OC related: Does this 3dmark freeze happen with stock clock?

 

Good to know.

 

Awesome, can you take some pictures or video of the installation process? Are you using the original heatsink?

 

Update: I could not upload the image to photobucket (some stupid error) so I am just going to post my results in text from my last run. I did it before I read Richteralan's message ><.

3dMark 11: 2134
GPU: 825/1350/1650
Temps: Max was 60 degrees with the turbo fans .

No problems, I think I am probably fine. Still don't know how Electric got such high results with a 10% OC on 460m. Are you running the 275.33? That might be why because I have an older version.

 

i ll order an ati 6970m+heatsink and the 180watt psu!!

 

Btw guys,

Now if I purchase an optical drive Caddy from like ebay or somewhere, will that fit in the NP8130?? (I'm assuming the faceplate can be detached from the optical drive and attach it to the caddy.)

Thanks

 

I bought one myself and it didn't fit perfectly into my Optical Drive bay, so my new one is coming in on monday.

Ask around, I know someone had bought it for $10 on ebay and it worked perfectly. Look for "IBM", "SATA to SATA" connection, and 12.7mm height drive.

Mr. Mysterious

 

It may be hit or miss. Some have reported getting caddies that don't have a spot to attach the old faceplate, so they've had to be superglued on. Some also have no mounting tab on the rear of the caddy, so you may need to take the one from the old optical drive. Otherwise it shouldn't have too much else that can go wrong, as it were.

 

Yes, drivers can make a big difference. It you take a look on the Nvidia site, they show % increase on certain games. On this architecture they've been using for the 460/560, an increase of 5-10% isn't improbable.

 

Well then people don't need to OC, just download new drivers and keep their temps nice and low.

Mr. Mysterious

 

Or get the fastest drivers + OC? FPS > temps You can always turbo the fans and put on headphones easily.

You can't do anything to get more FPS easily.

 

Noooo....

FPS < Temps, at least until you put in a new, cooler, more efficient and better GPU

Mr. Mysterious

 

You seem to be obsessed with temperatures in many of your posts. Does you GPU actually get that hot? Is your laptop cooler working properly? Do you live in a hot climate? Mine has always been quite cool. I've seen other laptops with 460Ms hit the 90s.