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    Official Sager NP8130/Clevo P151HM1 Owners Lounge

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by opelfrost, Jan 9, 2011.

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    cusx Newbie

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    I cannot remember exactly what it says.

    but something deal with Software and Hardware, it asked me to Remove any new or old hardware and software.


    Error code:0x00000124
     
  2. Richteralan

    Richteralan Notebook Evangelist

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    By troubleshooting, first of all you have to note what's on the BSOD, like errorcode.

    Second, you have to remember after which app/driver installation that the BSOD starting occuring.
     
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    Vapkez Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey guys I have recently run into this minor problem that is a little annoying. Whenever I close my laptop when it is on, when I open it back up, I cannot get it out of sleep mode no matter what buttons I hit. If I have a mouse plugged in and I keep it plugged in, then I can turn it on when clicking it. The touchpad does not work to turn it on when i do not have a mouse plugged in though.
     
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    Hi guys,

    I live in Belgium and have ordered a Sager NP8130 but i havent paid him yet, my only concern is that when something is broken on retrieval of the laptop sager wont pay the full resend. So this would then make the laptop like 400$ more expencive if it has to be sent back to the US and then back to Belgium.

    What do u guys think I should do, just take the risk and buy it or cancel the order and buy a laptop with a brand that has a department closer to belgium?

    Thanks in advance
     
  6. HTWingNut

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    Well if you can find a comparable machine (Asus G53SW maybe) for less than $400 more I'd say go that route, personally.
     
  7. Thypo

    Thypo Newbie

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    is the chance so big that there is something wrong with the machine? or just for safety?
     
  8. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    Well there's always a small chance that something is wrong or can go wrong, regardless of the laptop. I haven't heard of too many issues, but that doesn't mean yours won't come with one or that one won't come up later. That's for you to decide if it's a $400 risk.
     
  9. Electric Shock

    Electric Shock Notebook Evangelist

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    Sager is very easy to repair yourself. That said, you don't have to buy a Sager. There are many resellers in Europe which sell the exact same laptop as a Clevo P151HM1.

    There was one other person from Belgium who bought the P151HM1 from a Belgian shop. There is Clevo France. There are Clevo builders in Germany, etc.
     
  10. Mr_Mysterious

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    In other words, they are planning for world domination :D

    Mr. Mysterious
     
  11. tellarion

    tellarion Notebook Consultant

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    So I continue to be astounded by Malibal every day! I placed my order last week on a wednesday night at 11pm, and they responded immediately and started the process with my eCheck. Paypal said it would be processed by Tuesday, and sure enough it was! I hopped on to chat with Malibal at around 6pm that night and they updated the order immediately. Yesterday I got an email saying the order was completed and on its way already. UPS says it should be here by next monday. That's a week and a half for a custom ordered machine, assuming UPS actually gets it here when they say they will.

    I dunno about you guys, but that seems incredibly fast to me! Big props to Malibal and I hope nothing is wrong with my new laptop. Then again, I'm sure if I end up having to RMA it, it will be a painless experience :D
     
  12. MALIBAL

    MALIBAL Company Representative

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    Well, on cash payments (i.e. Check / eCheck) we actually build and test the notebook before the payment even clears, so that once it does - there's no additional waiting time. That's how we shipped your notebook so fast after the eCheck cleared. If we would have waited until payment cleared before starting production, then it would have added another 3-5 business days to the whole process. :)
     
  13. Vapkez

    Vapkez Notebook Evangelist

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    That's awesome everyone is saying great things about Malibal lately. I think my post got overlooked and it is kind of frustrating, does anyone have any idea what it is?

    "Hey guys I have recently run into this minor problem that is a little annoying. Whenever I close my laptop when it is on, when I open it back up, I cannot get it out of sleep mode no matter what buttons I hit. If I have a mouse plugged in and I keep it plugged in, then I can turn it on when clicking it. The touchpad does not work to turn it on when i do not have a mouse plugged in though."
     
  14. Anthony@MALIBAL

    Anthony@MALIBAL Company Representative

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    Have you reinstalled chipset/touchpad drivers just to be sure it's not related? The keyboard/mouse power down and sleep with the reset of the machine, but they should be able to wake it by default. Does pushing the power button bring it back, or are you limited to external mouse only?
     
  15. Vapkez

    Vapkez Notebook Evangelist

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    External mouse only, the power button does not. I can only shut it completely off with the power button...
     
  16. Atmosk

    Atmosk Notebook Evangelist

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    I've never had that or any real sleep issues with mine, maybe give the updated drivers in my thread a go.

    Mine wakes from sleep when I lift the screen if I have it closed, if it's sleeping with the screen open pressing the power button wakes it just fine.
     
  17. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    I hope this is how ALL resellers here on the forum handles this. We have always the second the eCheck, Check, etc. payment is posted, the notebook goes into the build and shipping queue.

    Shipping the same day the eCheck, check etc. clears... :)
    _
     
  18. aelmore1990

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    closed
     
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2015
  19. ElBlufer

    ElBlufer Notebook/NBR Addict

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    You shouldn't need one at all for this laptop (VERY pleasant surprise coming from my old laptop).

    Question: Are the batteries a little loose on anyone else's NP8130s? Mine seems to be built like a rock, but I can push the battery up closer to the machine and it'll drop back down when I stop doing so. The movement is very slight, but still there.
     
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    Electric Shock Notebook Evangelist

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    Sometimes I find the system won't power on correctly and will shut off immediately. I push the battery in a little and then it works.
     
  21. ElBlufer

    ElBlufer Notebook/NBR Addict

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    Well,luckily I haven't quite had that problem, I was just wondering if it's supposed to be lose. I think that's my only complaint about the build quality on this machine. Still twice as good as any consumer grade laptop I've ever seen.
     
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    aH!! can't wait for mine to arrive.. ordered on 6/12, it's now on phase 2 but it has a long way to travel (I live in Guatemala, Central America). I'm regretting my decision of getting the -$60 ram offer xD
     
  23. ElBlufer

    ElBlufer Notebook/NBR Addict

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    I got the same offer, and I"m still glad I did. Hopefully yours doesn't have too much more time to go!
     
  24. jmcnutt

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    what video driver did u use?

    have u tried the 275.50 beta + the modded inf?
    or what worked for u?
     
  25. ElBlufer

    ElBlufer Notebook/NBR Addict

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    I'm using it. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, it raised my 3Dmark11 score by around 200 points.
     
  26. jmcnutt

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    xD my bad, didn't notice it was u that posted that.
     
  27. Nascentes

    Nascentes Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, yes and yes. Amazing cooling mat. It's the one that I have and a few other people have. Fantastic quality and my NP8130 fits great on it.

    To answer your question, you don't need one. A book under the back of the laptop would suffice. However, if you plan on using the laptop on your lap at all, I highly recommend this cooling. Your legs won't block the laptop or the cooler vents, letting it breathe as if it was on a hard surface with the pad.

    I highly recommend this mat though :)
     
  28. MarkZinger

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    Just canceled my NP5175 order at Xotic in favor of this laptop instead. I had to pay a $200 difference, and I sure hope it was worth it!

    Should come in a few weeks :)
     
  29. ElBlufer

    ElBlufer Notebook/NBR Addict

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    It's a LOOOONG thread, it's easy to miss things.
     
  30. Mr_Mysterious

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    Trust me, my friend :D It definitely is worth the upgrade price.

    Though there is nothing wrong with the 51xx laptops. I'm jealous of the metal/graphite finish actually :p

    Mr. Mysterious
     
  31. zedwards

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    Just ordered my 8130 on Monday from Sager and just got it today and I haven't been able to tear myself from it!

    Got the glossy screen (95% gamut) and the Blueray burner otherwise, pretty standard. Screen is amazing, I love the feel of the keyboard, the track-pad feel...EVERYTHING!

    Can't wait to edit some videos with this think and...oh yeah play some games!
     
  32. ElBlufer

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    How did you manage that get it that quickly!?!?!?
     
  33. brett1111

    brett1111 Notebook Guru

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    hey, first post on this thread.
    My dilemma is to choose from these 3 options regarding 2 laptops:

    I. Sager NP8130:
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    /a: Powernotebooks: $1463
    - 15.6” Full HD 16:9 Wide screen (1920x1080) LED-Backlit Display with Matte Finished Screen
    - nVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M 192bit w/1.5GB GDDR5
    - Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM
    - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - ($40 extra)
    - 12GB (3x4GB SODIMMS) DDR3/1600 Dual Channel Memory
    - 750GB SATA II 3GB/s 7,200 RPM Hard Drive (16MB Cache Buffer)
    - 6x Blu-Ray Reader/8x Super Multi Combo Drive - ($80 extra)
    - Built-in Intel® Centrino® Ultimate-N 6300 Wireless Card
    - 8 Cell Smart Lithium-Ion Battery 76.96Wh
    - 3-Year Labor 1-Year Parts (Year 2 & 3 Labor by PNB)-Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Toll Free Support Standard
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    /b: XOTICPC: $1509

    - 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Screen
    - 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM
    - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
    - nVidia GeForce GTX 560M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11
    - 12,288MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (3 SODIMMS)
    - 750GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
    - 6X Blu-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive - Special
    - Intel® Ultimate-N 6300 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module
    - Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
    - 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC) Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs

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    II. PowerPro R 11:36 from Powernotebooks: $1424

    - 15.6" Full HD (1920x1080) LED backlit Widescreen LCD (don't know what type)
    - nVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M 192bit w/1.5GB GDDR5
    - Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM
    - IC Diamond Thermal Compound applied to CPU + GPU ($35 extra)
    - 12GB (3x4GB) Kingston HyperX DDR3/1600 Memory
    - 750GB SATA II 3GB/s 7,200 RPM
    - Blu-Ray Reader/8x Super Multi Combo Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW CD-R/RW Drive ($79 extra)
    - Built-in Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6205 Wireless Card
    - Smart Li-ion Battery 9-Cell
    - 1 Year Parts - Free Ground Shipping - 24/7 DOMESTIC Toll Free Support + Lifetime Labor Standard
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    I havent't ordered from either of these companies, but recently reading on these forums I have heard mostly good things about them. The price is just as is, no discounts, coupons, etc.
    I find the blu-ray option pretty pricey in general, and the diamond thermal compound could be cheaper as well.
    Any thoughts?
     
  34. ElBlufer

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    Go with Powernotebooks on the Sager NP8130 because it's cheaper for the exact same product (although, XoticPC will pricematch). That being said, if you live in CA, Powernotebooks has to charge you tax (if I remember correctly), while Xotic charges tax in Nebraska.
     
  35. chrisxnguyen

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    You ordered on Monday 6/20 and got it today? Are you sure? I ordered mines on June 10th and still waiting.
     
  36. chrisxnguyen

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    I recently purchased the Macally Tunefane 2.1 w/ subwoofer and speakers. I think it is pretty great as it is a laptop cooling fan with great speakers. $75 is a steep price though but I'm satisfied with the purchase as it makes the sound quality so much better and my lap cooler.
     
  37. 2MNY

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    Sounds like you are happy with it though I think $50 on speakers and $15 on a cooling mat would have been better spent. No sense in taking speakers with the laptop as you will most likely be in public where headphones would be a better option.
     
  38. Justin@XoticPC

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    The Blue Ray on the 8130 is at a discounted rate of $80 compared to what it usually is at $100.

    I think you might have got a option off somewhere, as you will see nearly all Sager Dealers are at the same price for the specification you requested above. Allot of customers use the cash discount to save the extra 3%.

    They look like good builds, you have done your research. ;)
     
  39. brett1111

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    Hi Justin, yes, I am trying :)
    There are a few good options. I also looked at the Force 16F2 model, and the basically the same combo (though without the matte screen) stands at $1372.55. (well, I am still thinkg if I really need the matte lcd? I could save that $95 perhaps)

    What are the main differences between the Force and the Sager 8130? I mean beyond the specifications. Like build quality, battery life, noise, etc. For example I noticed that battery lasts somewhat longer in the Sager. And why is there only 1 year warranty as default for the Force, while it is 3 yrs for the Sager?
     
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    i just notice a slowdown while playing on battery is this normal??
     
  41. Anthony@MALIBAL

    Anthony@MALIBAL Company Representative

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    Yep. The CPU and GPU are heavily downclocked on battery. They draw too much power to run at full speeds when not hooked up to the AC and the battery just can't support it. Not to mention you'd have no battery life if they didn't :)
     
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    I paid the $49 rush charge.

    Yup!

    With that said...my only complaint is the camera is horrible!
     
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    Hi Brett

    The main difference between the 16F2 and the 8130 is that the 16F2 supports 2 Internal Hard Drives. Overall the Sager NP8130 outsells the 16F2 around 3 or 4 to 1.

    The Sager probably has a little better build quality. For noise they are the same. The Labor Part of the Warranty is 3 Years on the Sager and the 16F2 has Lifetime Labor Warranty. :) Both have a 1 Year Parts Warranty.

    If there are any other questions you have don't hesitate to ask ;)
     
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    Wow, I didn't realize the 16F2 existed. Smart to add second hard drive bay not sure why Sager didn't do that? Although not too keen on the styling of the 16F2, like the soft and elegant look of the NP8130.
     
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    PowerNotebooks.com is in Northern Nevada, so we do not collect sales tax for California, nor the California recycle fee.

    For California customers we ship to us in Nevada first, which only takes 2 business days, and then back to California which takes either 1 or 2 business days depending on where you are in California. Most of Northern California is only 1 business day away from PowerNotebooks.com.

    We find that not only the 2 hard drive bays, but also the support for RAID 0, the far better audio with the Dynaudio speakers, the full 720P webcam, the 9 cell battery for slightly better battery life, the gorgeous standard glossy screen, the better warranty package and the better pricing make the PowerPro R 11:36 (built on the MSI 16F2 chassis) a good competitor to the Sager NP8130.

    At PowerNotebooks.com, for every 10 Sager NP8130 sales, we sell 9 PowerPro R 11:36 models.
     
  46. chrisxnguyen

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    Thats sweet. If I had purchased through you guys, I would probably have my laptop by now. My laptop is currently in transit to their facility in another state before it gets shipped to CA (which from what my reseller told me, takes about 4 days TO and FROM CA so about 8 days total just for shipping) and I cant stand this wait and not knowing where the laptop is right now. I am moving at the end of next week and I am trying to be very hopeful that I will receive it by Friday or else I won't get it. In retrospect, I guess I should have paid the extra $49 for rush production and gotten it within days like "zedwards" but I never imagined it would take this long. I've heard a lot of great things regarding responses from my reseller but I really haven't really gotten that vibe. The responses I tend to receive seems to be "template" responses towards the general public. I'm still awaiting a response from my reseller to let me know if they have any idea as to if my laptop has reached their facility so I can make an informed decision or not to upgrade my shipping to 3 day service instead of ground. I wouldn't normally be so hasty but I just want to know for sure when I can expect my order and if I will receive it by the day I move, at the latest.
     
  47. ElBlufer

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    I know it was something about CA. Now I just remember that it was that you're closer/I would have gotten my laptop faster (not that I'm complaining). Thanks for the clarification!
     
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    Does anyone have information on the backorder of the regular matte screen? (not the 95%gamut matte option).

    I noticed it on the Sager site (sagernotebooks) that it was in back order, with an ETA of June 2011, when my friend showed me it the other day. I ordered mine from XoticPC about 2 days ago, and I am concerned that this might tack on additional weeks to my order =/
     
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    They will be in next week so it won't delay your order.
     
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    @ paladin44
    So the matte screen is the default for the PowerPro R 11:36? It is not stated on the product site anywahere; maybe I missed that.

    Anyways, thanks for both of you for the clarifications. I have been doing my homework. I want to know 'everything' before probably make a decision sometime later next week. Some questions remain.

    I. memory:
    I noticed that an optimal memory configuration is not easy to come by. Since I'll definitely won't have better processor than the i7-2630QM (good enough), 1600Mhz memory would be unnecessary I guess. But I read that for the best performance, memory should come in 'equal sizes'. So my question:
    is it possible to have just 8GB (2x4GB, 1333mhz) as default, and I would order an additional memory unit (4gb @1333mhz so it matches) from, i.e. newsegg which could (possibly) be instaleld by you? Sorry if this sounds like a weird question, just this is the first time I am considering buying a customized laptop, instead of Dell, Hp, etc.

    II. Diamond Thermal Compound - does this really make a difference? I always use cooler pad, so not sure if this extra $35-40 is necessary for me or no.

    III. what about the main logo on the laptop? I'd prefer it to reflect the original model, where it came from. So in this case, it would be MSI? I am not sure what is the standard practice, even after checking out the pix in your galleries. This is one of the reason I dont want to order from malibal, though I have only heard good things about them, just like about you. But obviously this is not a major issue in the end.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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