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    Official Sager NP8130/Clevo P151HM1 Owners Lounge

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by opelfrost, Jan 9, 2011.

  1. seb0

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    I'm starting to miss my former ASUS notebook, I think my sager laptop is cursed.
     
  2. Donald@Paladin44

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    I would contact your reseller or Sager for support on your Sager NP8130, and OCZ support for your Vertex 2 issues.
     
  3. seb0

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    Ok, I'll send an email to both of them.

    I hope a BIOS update or a new firmware will fix this issue, because I don't want a RMA.
     
  4. spicynoodle

    spicynoodle Newbie

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    Purchased my 8130 from Malibal and loving it so far. Quick question about the temps though. My laptop idles around 48-50C which seems a little higher than what some people are getting. I also opted for the IC Diamond compound. Is this temp range ok or should it be running cooler since I got the IC?
     
  5. HTWingNut

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    Are you connected to an external monitor or running just the laptop screen? Multi-screens will drive the temps up. But with the NP8170 I had, the temps were high until I repasted.
     
  6. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    That seems high if you're not connected to an external monitor. My 8130 with IC Diamond idles in the upper 30s, low 40s. How are your load temps? Run Prime95 under the maximum heat and power consumption test with 8 threads and post back.
     
  7. svaalbard

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    Problem signature:
    Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
    OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
    Locale ID: 1033

    Additional information about the problem:
    BCCode: 9f
    BCP1: 0000000000000003
    BCP2: FFFFFA80074AC340
    BCP3: FFFFF800049603D8
    BCP4: FFFFFA800D460D50
    OS Version: 6_1_7601
    Service Pack: 1_0
    Product: 768_1

    Files that help describe the problem:
    C:\Windows\Minidump\071711-26972-01.dmp
    C:\Users\(user)\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-69592-0.sysdata.xml

    so, my NP8130 just BSOD on me, while I was AFK. I think it was due to the computer going into sleep mode while I was downloading SCII, has anyone else experienced shutdown issues with their laptop??
     
  8. Anthony@MALIBAL

    Anthony@MALIBAL Company Representative

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    I'd recommend running WhoCrashed so we can get more info on the cause of it. Are you running an SSD by chance?
     
  9. svaalbard

    svaalbard Notebook Enthusiast

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    Nope, just a 500gb 7200 RPM harddrive

    All my drivers are up to date, I was wondering if this is an issue when the computer goes into sleep? I have my settings so that if I am away for 1 hour, it goes into sleep. I was away for about 2 hours
     
  10. svaalbard

    svaalbard Notebook Enthusiast

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    Copy pasta incoming, I apologize


    Crash dump directory: C:\Windows\Minidump

    Crash dumps are enabled on your computer.


    On Sun 7/17/2011 4:54:26 PM GMT your computer crashed
    crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\071711-26972-01.dmp
    This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x7FD00)
    Bugcheck code: 0x9F (0x3, 0xFFFFFA80074AC340, 0xFFFFF800049603D8, 0xFFFFFA800D460D50)
    Error: DRIVER_POWER_STATE_FAILURE
    file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
    product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    company: Microsoft Corporation
    description: NT Kernel & System
    Bug check description: This bug check indicates that the driver is in an inconsistent or invalid power state.
    This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
    The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver which cannot be identified at this time.


    On Sun 7/17/2011 4:54:26 PM GMT your computer crashed
    crash dump file: C:\Windows\memory.dmp
    This was probably caused by the following module: ntkrnlmp.exe (nt!KeBugCheckEx+0x0)
    Bugcheck code: 0x9F (0x3, 0xFFFFFA80074AC340, 0xFFFFF800049603D8, 0xFFFFFA800D460D50)
    Error: DRIVER_POWER_STATE_FAILURE
    Bug check description: This bug check indicates that the driver is in an inconsistent or invalid power state.
    This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
    The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver which cannot be identified at this time.
     
  11. Anthony@MALIBAL

    Anthony@MALIBAL Company Representative

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    Yep, looks like Windows is having trouble putting something to sleep/waking up correctly. The only real solutions I can think of are updating your Intel chipset drives/video card drivers or reinstalling windows. There are a huge number of drivers/updates that could cause that sort of behavior.
     
  12. johnnyman27

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    hii!i just started camera application to take some photos and i have this message pop up.....my camera doesn't work..

    [​IMG]


    i unistall then reinstall the drivers and same thing happens......pls help..thx.
     
  13. Seville

    Seville Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys, I'm thinking of buying this laptop. But I have a question..

    What's the battery life when just browsing the internet or doing simple tasks? Also, does it get really hot when gaming?

    Thanks!
     
  14. MALIBAL

    MALIBAL Company Representative

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    Hi, you can get over 3 hours of battery life on the P151HM1 (8130) under basic usage. Also - the P151HM1 has very nice cooling - here is a sample vid that one of our customers made which shows the temps (in the top left corner) while playing Just Cause 2: ‪just cause 2 on clevo P151HM1‬‏ - YouTube :)
     
  15. Seville

    Seville Notebook Enthusiast

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    Wow thanks for the quick reply..I had a few questions because I'm considering buying from Malibal, but I can't for the life of me, find out how to PM someone. When I did, it says you don't have the sufficient privileges :S
     
  16. Dynamo44

    Dynamo44 Notebook Consultant

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    You need at least 5 posts if I recall correctly.
     
  17. MALIBAL

    MALIBAL Company Representative

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    Hi, as Dynamo said - you need at least 5 posts before you can PM - and even then... you will probably have to wait until midnight, when the system updates before you can send a PM.
     
  18. svaalbard

    svaalbard Notebook Enthusiast

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    when I run different tools, it says my computer is a P150hmx, is this normal?
     
  19. MALIBAL

    MALIBAL Company Representative

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    Hi, yes that's normal. The P151HM1 and P150HM are identical, except for the power supply, default screen and finish on the casing. :)
     
  20. HTWingNut

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    How much does the P150 PSU cost if we were to buy one?
     
  21. MALIBAL

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    <g>$95</g>
     
  22. spicynoodle

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    No I'm not connected to an external monitor. Temps on Prime95 stay around the 75-77C range. I also ran Furmark and got 80C. Anyone else have the same temps with IC Diamond?
     
  23. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    Those temps under load are pretty decent. I run with stock paste and average 5-8C higher under full load. You're well under the danger zone of 95C+ as well.
     
  24. svaalbard

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    With all the awesome feedback and help you've given me, I sent another friend lookin for a laptop to your website so he can order one =)

    Thanks for all the tips and help
     
  25. MALIBAL

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    Thanks! Glad we could help out. :)
     
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    Hey checked the shipping status of my malibal lotus yesterday and it should be arriving tommorow. Just wondering what i should do after i install windows. Like is there anything i should do to prepare it for use other than installing the drivers?
     
  27. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    Nope, just install the new drivers and any games you want and get playing. I'd also recommend installing AV software, and possibly run a 3DMark benchmark or Prime 95 to make sure everything is running as expected.
     
  28. Mikaelft

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    Whats the difference between this and p150?
     
  29. MALIBAL

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    They are essentially the same notebook, with these three differences.

    P150HM: 180W PSU, Rubberized Casing, Standard Glossy Screen
    P151HM1: 120W PSU, Plastic Casing, Standard Matte Screen
     
  30. Mikaelft

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    Guess that the p151 don't support GPU upgrade...?
     
  31. MALIBAL

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    No it doesn't unless you purchase a 180W PSU for it. If you do that, then the P151HM1 will support the same GPUs as the P150HM.
     
  32. Electric Shock

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    Often requires new heatsink as well but that usually comes with the GPU upgrade if you buy the factory package. If you buy from ebay or someone else you might just recieve the card alone and it won't work with the heatsink for something else.
     
  33. BenLew

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    Hello! I was wondering if the hdmi port on this computer can only be used as an output for an external display, or if i could use it as an import for say a blu ray player or an xbox so that i could view these on the sager screen.
     
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    Output only. Only machine that offers an input is the M17x R3 or M18x.
     
  35. BenLew

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    anybody know any LED mods for the vents or speakers or anything on this computer?
     
  36. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    If you're interested in that sort of stuff and were curious about an HDMI input, just buy the Alienware M17x R3 or M18x.
     
  37. chrisxnguyen

    chrisxnguyen Notebook Geek

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    For those who had stated they have bad quality output from their headphone jack, here is my follow-up: So I went out and bought a USB stereo audio adapter because either my headjack is defective or it just produces very bad output. The result of the USB adapter is amazing! I finally have great output so I can use my headphones now! I bought a cheap one from Amazon for $6 including shipping but the sound is superb.
     
  38. BenLew

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    Can you post the amazon link for that?
     
  39. chrisxnguyen

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    Here you go, its $6.81 w/ free shpping: Syba USB Stereo Audio Adapter

    So glad we have 5 USB ports!
     
  40. Electric Shock

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    All you guys with issues with the audio jack on the 8130, have you tried different headphones? I have some that sound extremely small and low quality on these jacks and some that sound great. I usually have my laptop hooked up to my desktop sound system via the audio jack.
     
  41. chrisxnguyen

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    That entered my thoughts but I spent about $75 on my headphones and I really love it. I didn't have a extra one laying around the house to try so I figured I'd just spend $6 for the adapter (because I knew it would work) instead of buying a new worthy headset, which may or may not solve my issue. This way, I still get to use my headset! From what I read in previous posts, you may be right and this seems to solve some people's issue with the headjack but I can't vouch for that personally.
     
  42. Tostano

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    Just received my awaited Clevo P151HM1 from MALIBAL. Very pleased so far.

    Some of my observations:
    The keyboard is very nice, comparable to my Macbook Pro's chiclet keyboard, with responsive keys and minimal flex.
    The audio quality is very nice, especially after activating THX.
    The 95% colour gamut matte display is beautiful to say the least.
    The laptop came with windows 7 preinstalled and all the drivers working beautifully.
    The fingerprint reader is more usable than I expected, and I can easily log into windows and launch applications with one swipe.
    I have yet to do any graphically intensive tasks but I'm sure the 560m will be up to the job.
    The build quality seems excellent so far and I quite enjoy the plastic finish.
    The touchpad, while not anywhere near as nice as my Macbook Pro, is surprisingly easy to use despite having the same finish as the rest of the computer.

    All in all, I'm very happy with my purchase so far, and expect to continue to be happy. MALIBAL had excellent service, answering all my questions promptly, regardless of how simple or complicated. I would definitely recommend them and this notebook.
     
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    Mine entered Phase 2 (building/testing/burn-in/QA) today! woot!
     
  44. MALIBAL

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    Hi Tostano! Congrats on the new system and thanks for the feedback! Please drop us a PM if you ever need anything. :)
     
  45. huxter

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    well i got an error today while i was playing. i got all this black screen and then some lines etc. and said that my nvidia driver had an error and that it fixed itself... but just keep getting the same error then my computer restarted.

    where do i get the newest drivers for my laptop?
     
  46. saturnotaku

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    Assuming you have Windows 7 x64, here. In order to support the Sager/Clevo GTX 560M, you'll also need the .inf file from here.

    When you have the driver downloaded, use 7-Zip or similar program to extract the executable to a folder. Then copy the modified .inf and overwrite the one that's located in the "Display.Driver" folder. Then uninstall your current driver, reboot, and use the setup.exe to install as normal.
     
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    Hey just received mine yesterday from malibal. I got the 95% Gamut screen and Ic diamond thermal compound. Everything else is stock. Heres what i noticed.

    I have one stuck/white pixel.

    I cant wake up from sleep.

    I tried to plug in my stero via aux. The only input it worked on was the headphone jack. even then the quality was not that great and only about half as loud than when my ipod is plugged in.

    Also I am not able to update my driver because everytime i go to the page theres an unknown error. This happens when i try to click on the download. I went to both the malibal and clevo websites.

    Is anyone able to help? Other than this the laptop is great,feels great, and looks amazing.
     
  48. Vapkez

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    Atleast you had some upsides lol. If you read the forums then you will notice that most of the things you post are common, the sound quality is usually not good. I don't know if you were asking us for help on the stuck pixel though. I mean if you really cannot stand it, send it back... The driver thing sounds lik ea problem though. I am sure people on here know where to find the updates where there is no error. It does sound like it might be your problem though, because it is hard to see clevo and malibals download links not working.
     
  49. swimmer1918

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    Hey everyone, I've been reading this forum for awhile and researching the Sager NP8130 for weeks and just a had a couple of questions. (OK a lot of questions)

    1. Weight it says 6.83 is it that heavy I've seen other gaming laptops in the 7-9 lbs. so is this considered some what light?

    2. I been looking at Sager because of reliability is it true they have a very low malfunction rate?

    3. 560m is it powerful enough for future games or is the 580m in the NP8150 a must. (looking forward to games like Skyrim and guild wars 2)

    4. new models, is there going to be a new model or upgrades to current model's any time soon because i don't need the laptop for 6 months maybe even 8. I know they just added the 5 series of graphics cards i think?

    5. Is the SSD worth it the 120GB, i heard SSD can greatly improve performance and 120GB is more then plenty space for me.

    6. Is it worth getting the upgraded cooler i don't want my laptop to run hot.

    7. 1333mhz/1600mhz ram i heard there isn't really a performance difference is this true?

    Thanks for all the help really appreciate it!
     
  50. tellarion

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    1) Compared to my old Sony SR, which was around 3ish pounds, this thing is a beast. Depending on how much you move it around, and what type of backpack you have, it's not that bad though. Many people around here recommend the Swiss Gear Ibex backpack.

    2) From what I've gathered, they are very reliable. I would recommend buying from a reseller rather than Sager because Sager's support is pretty bad. You will LOVE dealing with a Clevo/Sager reseller though!!

    3) So far, my 560m is maxing out just about every game that is out right now. You might have to bump some details/effects down for games like Skyrim and GW2, but that is the price you pay for choosing a notebook. I would say that the choice between 560m and 580m depends on your budget, really. The 560m should be plenty for the next year, imo.

    4) I don't think there will be many changes in the next 6 months. Sandy Bridge was just released this spring, and Ivy Bridge is due out next year. There will ALWAYS be refreshes/updates, though. You might want to wait till a bit closer to Ivy Bridge and maybe pick up a current gen Sager for cheaper. Up to you, really.

    5) SSD is a VERY good investment. It will help make your laptop seem faster in so many ways. The general rule of thumb, however, is to just buy it separately so you can avoid the slight markup. Installing a new ssd on your own is really simple with these laptops.

    Personally, I have an Intel x25 120gb ssd I had bought previously, so I opted for the Optical drive bay caddy and stuck my 500gb hdd I ordered with the 8130 in there. USB ODD are pretty cheap :D

    6) The cooling in Sager laptops is GREAT! My 8130 almost never feels hot. I DID opt for a cooler, however, because I like to use it in bed quite a bit. Otherwise the air intakes would be blocked and reduce the fans' ability to cool it off by quite a bit.

    7) No real difference as yet. Not worth the price increase, imo. Be advised that you'll have to upgrade to at least the 2720qm cpu to be able to use 1666mhz ram.

    Hope this helped!
     
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