Official Sager NP8130/Clevo P151HM1 Owners Lounge

The only time a cooling pad is really needed is if you want to use it in your lap. Any kind of lap desk would be recommended though, not just a cooling pad. The intake vents are on the bottom of the laptop so you just have to make sure they're kept clear at all times.

For normal use, the cooling provided by an active cooling pad will be minimal. Upgraded thermal paste and raising the rear of the laptop will make the biggest difference.

 

Hey Anthony@MALIBAL, I tried sending you a PM but got an error saying you don't accept PMs?

 

I'm guessing the rubber finish of the 8150 would be even worse.

No need for a cooling pad, there are cheaper and more effective solutions. But are you sure you don't want to wait one more month for ivy and kepler?

 

Why so? 10char.

 

my cpu temps reach upto 99degree c and gpu upto 97degree c.do i need to do something?

 

99C for your CPU is a number to be concerned about. The GPU is getting high too. Give it a good cleaning to clear out any dust and see if your temps drop. With CPU temps that high you should also consider re pasting the thermal compound.

 

Those are quite high. Are you using the machine on a hard flat surface? What are you ambient temperatures like?

 

Hmm..for some reason the USB port on the left isn't working and the one on the right isn't working either when I plug in my mouse/keyboard or USB. They work on the USB 3.0 ports but not for the USB 2.0..any drivers or help I can get?

 

Well, they should work right off the bat if you are using Windows 7.

 

i will try cleaning and repasting.yes i am using the laptop on adesk

 

I don't know..if I reboot they start working and sometimes they don't..:S..

 

Hey I was hoping someone can help me with an issue with my 8130. All of a sudden recently, my computer goes into a freeze when I watch a video (youtube/cnn) and my screen becomes all dotted like an 8bit video game. This happens very infrequently, but for some reason only when I watch videos. I don't or haven't run into this problem playing video games. I think the first time it happened, the nvidia driver crashed and it said it recovered. Now it doesn't recover, and one time while I was waiting for it to do so, the fans turn on full blast. Each time I had to hard shut off.

Sometimes my GPU monitor tells me it is idling at ~46-50c, a full ~10c higher then it should be normally. And I dont know if I'm paranoid, but maybe my left fan isn't blowing a strong?

What do you think the matter is? thanks guys

 

If you can, try reinstalling your graphics driver. You can find the link in the main Sager page here or on NVIDIA's website. Otherwise, the best you can do is to reinstall W7.

Mr. Mysterious

 

Hey guys, haven't posted on this site in a LONG time.

Anyway, I'm beginning to be a bit worried about my 8130. Lately I noticed my temps spiraling out of control and I recently opened the back panel and air-blasted the vents and fans, which didn't seem to help despite cleaning out a massive amount of dust.

During a 10 minute session of TOR, my GPU temp reached 93*C, and that was only after ten minutes!! I've never seen temps that high, when I first got the laptop with ICDiamond and everything, temps never got much higher than 79* during gaming. This is a major difference. Any ideas guys?

 

Hey saosin, wanna test something with me? I wonder if we are having similar issues. I reinstalled the previous nvidia drivers, I think it's normalizing things, but that's just from eyeballing it. If u do, let me know. I'm running a gtx460 which may account for our temp differences. This is speculation on my part

 

Yeah I wouldn't mind playing around with drivers. I know when I first had the laptop on original drivers it would not go above 79* no matter what I did to it.

I did call Sager support, they actually told me 93* is perfect operating spec and they didn't offer me any options. They said it would have to be 100 or greater to have any kind of issues.

But that doesn't strike me as relief. 93* is definitely hotter than what I feel comfortable with. Any suggestions? The laptop was fully pasted only a year ago and I really don't feel comfortable pasting the GPU by myself.

 

You're seeing temps of 93C on the 560m? That's much warmer than I'd expect to see, as that's where we see 100w GPU's like the 6990m. The basic things to try it sounds like you'd done - cleaning out the vents, opening the bottom cover and cleaning the fans, etc. Do temps get noticeably better with FN+1?

If all else fails, repasting your GPU isn't that hard. You can do it in about 10 minutes. Just unscrew the bottom panel, then take the four screws out around the GPU (they're numbered, remove them in reverse order). Clean the old paste off with a lint free cloth and rubbing alcohol, apply the new paste, and put it back together (numbers in regular order).

 

Yup. 93* on a generally cool 560m. Definitely not thrilled. Especially when it never used to break 80*. I may try to repaste, but it seems there's another issue at hand here? I don't think the degradation of the aftermarket paste would cause this kind of heat spike? It has shutdown once on me but I can't know for sure if it was from overheating.

Okay, putting the fans on full blast did not drop the temp at all. I'm playing minecraft and the hardwareinfo sensor is showing a steady 93*. Is it possible the sensors are screwed up? I don't get this. And right now it's idling at 49*. Go figure.

 

If turning the fans to full blast didn't lower the temps even a little bit, then there are two things that could be happening: 1) the sensors are misrepresenting temps (this is rare), or 2) the heatsink is not making contact with the GPU die like it should be or the heatsink/heatpipes are physically damaged. Turning the fans up should increase airflow across the heatpipes, thus lowering temps, which is why it's strange that you didn't see any difference at all.

 

To clarify, turning the fans full blast at idle decreases temps from about 49* down to 40 or so, but doesn't do much when I'm topping out at 93*. Maybe goes down to 91* or so, but that's it.

I've never seen this thermal behavior on any laptop I've owned. Leads me to believe something is definitely wrong with either the heatsink or the fans.

 

Within the past few pages, I've noticed people discuss both USB problems and graphics card glitches. I've been having both issues since my purchase. In fact, I've been having random problems at least weekly. I've had my laptop replaced twice already, and XoticPC is telling me I should RMA and get a third replacement. I've reinstalled Windows, I've reinstalled drivers, updated BIOS...I've done everything to remove and reduce these problems

This is the last Sager I'll ever purchase.

 

Hit 96* today during gameplay. Called Sager again and they told me this is "normal" and "not to worry."

UPDATE: I've been paying very close attention to the fan behavior, I think the issue is the fans. They don't seem to be kicking in quick enough, for instance they won't get to "near full blast" until the temps go above 90*, and even then, they're not on as high as they should be and have been in the past. Lately I've been gaming using FN+1 only but I'm certain that'll just degrade the fans even more in time.

Has ANYONE else seen temps like this with this laptop and 560m?

 

Same behavior as my 8170, I won't be concerned with the fans degrading too soon, it may take quite a few years and it's generic enough to easily replace.




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Is it normal for the keyboard of the NP8130 to vibrate when you play music at 100% volume?

 

A little bit, yes, because the speakers and subwoofer are mounted to the same chassis and can get quite loud. The same is true for most laptops when you crank the volume.

 

Got a P151HM here. Had this error a few minutes ago and this is not the first time it has happened. I contacted MALIBAL support few months ago about this and sent them the dump files as well but they weren't sure about how to solve this.

 

It may have been best to resize the picture before posting. ^^

That error is typically associated with your graphics card drivers.

You can check and confirm it with WhoCrashed 3.03 - Download.com

How often are you getting the BSOD and what are you doing at that time?

It may be best to uninstall your nVidia drivers and run Driver Sweeper in Safe Mode.
After that, re-install your drivers but make sure to select the Custom option instead of Express. Under the Custom option, you should see a checklist and one box that is empty at the bottom. Check that box it should have "Perform a Clean Installation".

 

anyone know if you can force 75hz at a lower resolution? 60hz is balls for quake live

also if you can overdrive the panel

 

I'm really debating just grabbing the 9150 now.

 

I don't believe you can. The best you can get is the rated refresh rate (of 60hz) for the panel. Some CRT's back in the day let you force refresh rates (granted, it would stop displaying if you went out of bounds), but LCD's don't work that way.

 

Is there a walkthrough somewhere of how to re-apply thermal paste to the 560m in the 8130?

 

it's really easy, just take the heatsink off, clean it off a paper towel, then with some isopropyl alcohol. Then just put a dot, then put the heatsink over it, done.

 

Not true...
I actually tested 95hz on this lcd, and it works fine. 100hz has some artifacts, 120 colors are warped.
Much smoother though.

In nvidia control panel.

 

This is true for desktop CPU dies because they have heatspreaders and the heatsink usually has enough force to spread the thermal paste. For laptops with "bare" dies, you should spread the thermal paste as evenly (and thinly) as possible until it covers the whole die then install back the heatsink.

Hope that helps.

 

It really depends on the paste you're using. IC Diamond for example, still recommends the pea method rather than surface spread. You are screwing the heatsink down tight to the die, so it should be plenty of pressure to spread it out. They recommend not doing the spread with IC Diamond because that's a good way to get air mixed in, which will lower the effectiveness. (this is not the case for most TIM, but IC Diamond is extremely viscous)

 

Never used IC Diamond but I believe you are correct on that. Currently, I use Prolimatech Pk-4 which is considered one of the best TIMs in the market as suggested by famous forums like OCN and the like.

 

Rocking mx-2 here, no problems.

 

Will I need anything but a screwdriver?

 

nope, well some paper towers obviously.

 

I would highly recommend against using paper towels, they'll leave behind lint and bits of paper which are terrible. Use a microfiber or lint free cloth if you have them. A coffee filter will work in a pinch as well because they're lint free. 90% isopropyl alcohol is also useful to help clean off the old TIM. Just dab some of it on and wipe off with the cloth.

 

I've used paper towels since forever, I don't know what kinda paper towels you're using, mine don't leave behind any dust.

And yes you will want to use isopropyl alcohol, or you can even get away with distilled water if you just happen to have it lying around.

I use the brawny paper towels or something like that.

 

90% alcohol is NOT isopropyl alcohol but you can do away with isopropyl (usually 70% alochol) alcohol.

 

Is it normal for the power-brick to emit some sort of high-pitched squealing sound when connected to the laptop that is either powered off or in suspend mode?

Same goes for the GPU when running anything highly graphical?

 

To the former that's not usual, or mine doesn't.
GPU whine, I think my old model did that. Haven't noticied that on my new one. I had to get my GPU replaced due to random vpu recovories and distortion at the rear dual link dvi

 

This is very normal. Even my desktop PSUs does it. My UPS does it also. This is more commonly called Inductor whine or Capacitor whine.

 

Right, but don't these sounds indicate that a capacitor is about to pop?

 

Sometimes yes but most of the time no.

Imagine this, I had a Corsair TX750 PSU before in my desktop computer and it squealed when I used it out of the box. I RMA'd it thrice and the problem still persists.

Same with my two units of high-end APC BackUPS BR-1500GI which produced the same squealing sound. I also RMA'd this thrice and similar to the Corsair PSU's above I received brand new units which produced the same sound.

There's no problem with my power lines here for sure because I've tried them at different houses also. This problem plagued me 2 years ago and I learned that there is really squeal with this components. Most often than not, it is the transformer that is squealing and not an indication of a bad capacitor.

For video cards, inductors/capacitors are also usually squealing but it is also not an indication of a bad component. Simply put, it is normal to hear that sound. You won't notice it when gaming anyway

 

Just replaced the stock paste on my 460m with ic diamond. Temps went from 90C to around 65C.

 

The big temp difference you got there is not solely due to using a high-end thermal paste but the application method also has great effect. Usually, Sager applies too much.

 

Is it normal for the Fingerprint Reader of the NP8130 to not work "sometimes" after resuming from Sleep?