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    *** Official Sager NP8150/Clevo P150HM Owners Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Daniel Hahn, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    the main culprit with the p151hm is the psu when installing a 100w gpu. u deff need a 180w psu and not the stock 120w. otherwise the cooling system/heatsinks are the same afaik. i got a buddy here on nbr whos actually running a 7970m coupled with a 2960xm cpu on his psu-wise pimped up p151hm. so far i havent heard him complaining much :p

    why dont u go ahead and check him out urself, im sure he can help u out with answers based on his own experience :)

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/member.php?u=416374

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  2. Nuukeer

    Nuukeer Notebook Enthusiast

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    I will be buying 32 GB of RAM very soon, and I have a little trouble deciding whether to buy 1600 MHz CL11 or 1333 MHz CL9 RAM, which are at the same price (within 1 %). Since the P150HM doesn't support 1600 MHz in more the 4 GB (?) I suppose the 1600 sticks will not be beneficial. But is it possible the 1600 ones are higher binned and of better quality (so that they can run at 1333 at lower voltage)? BTW: I need 32 GB, since I'm doing super heavy photoshop work (100+ MP files with hundreds of layers, my photoshop files can take up 20+ GB of HDD space), and 12 GB have been quite a limitation for me.
     
  3. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Since when doesn't it support 1600mhz in more than 4gb, I have 16gb running at 1600mhz.

    Though I have flashed the P170hm bios onto my P150 for intel XTU support so I could change ram settings.

    The other option is to flash a modded bios by Prema to set the ram to 1600mhz.
     
  4. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    P150HM supports up to 32GB of 1866mhz ram with a vanilla bios, as long as the ram sticks are PnP (plug and play) and NOT xmp (xtreme memory profile) modules.

    cheers

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  5. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Or use thaiphoon burner and change the SPD to the XMP settings.
     
  6. Nuukeer

    Nuukeer Notebook Enthusiast

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    I think I will buy Corsair vengeance 1866 or Kingston PnP 1600 then; easiest that way, and a nice treat since RAM is really cheap.
     
  7. amallin1948

    amallin1948 Newbie

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    Hi there guys,

    Can anyone tell me where i can find the power jack part of our laptop and buy it? To be clear the part that is attached to the motherboard. Not the power jack on the PSU.

    Kind regards
     
  8. pepi18

    pepi18 Notebook Consultant

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    Hello quick question here.

    About a week ago I noticed my GPU idle temperatures were rather high, 52 after a fresh reboot and 57 browsing the web. The temps on load are fine, 79 running Battlefield 3.

    I'm thinking to get some thermal paste and reapply.

    Heres some facts about recent laptop usage:
    - I played allot of Battlefield 3 last week
    - Room temperature is hotter as its summer 24-25c
    - I've got the latest nvidia drivers
    - I clean out my fans with canned air fairly regularly
    - Normally idle temps are 38 (44 browsing the web)
    - In June 2012 I had the GPU and MOBO replaced by my reseller

    So two questions: Is the thermal paste due for repasting? If so is there anything I need to be careful with - it will be my first time applying paste.
     
  9. Support.1@XOTIC PC

    Support.1@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    In my opinion you have no need to do a repaste, they're pretty average for idle and load temps. The GPU can handle those temps no problem and you typically don't need to do a repaste until you start seeing 90 C temps or so under load.
     
  10. Scerate

    Scerate Notebook Evangelist

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    Are there any fixes already for the P150HM of the Brightness bug in Windows 8, I'm too lazy to install it right now but I already hate Win7 after working with Win8 so much time on my main rig :p

    Gesendet von meinem Nexus 7
     
  11. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    seems to be a pretty random issue, since ive seen other P150HM owners with a functioning brightness function under win8. they were also using the 7970M afaik. still no idea where the culprit lies tho...
     
  12. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The latest drivers seem to do this while the factory default windows 8 drivers have it working at the moment.
     
  13. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    u mean the stock win8 amd drivers?

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  14. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Well my experience was through the GX60 which had its own stock drivers.
     
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    knowskillz Notebook Enthusiast

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    I currently have a P150HM with a 7970m in it, unfortunately the 7970m doesn't have dual link dvi which I require for my 2560x1440 res monitor...

    I was thinking about putting a 680m to resolve this issue, does anyone know if the dual link dvi on the 680m works on a P150HM?
     
  16. Scerate

    Scerate Notebook Evangelist

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    i'm not completely sure but i think that the P150HM only have a internal single link Dvi Cable connection.

    Oh and btw i just reported the Brightness Issue finally to AMD i'm interested what they say to that issue, like i already tested with stock it works of course but there is a feelable performance difference between Stock drivers and 12.11b11
     
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    It should have a dual link dvi link, I used to have a GTX485 and dual link dvi worked perfectly fine with my U2711
     
  18. Nuukeer

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    Does anyone have an image of the original driver CD that came with your P150HM? I'm trying to prove that my error (unknown USB device constantly popping up) is not a driver error, and I can't find my CD. I'm installing a new partition of Windows 7 (already have 2 of them on different drives giving me the same error). When I tried to download and install a driver for the fingerprint reader it couldn't detect the device. I've installed drivers for the 2M webcam, but how do you use it? Maybe it is faulty, too.
     
  19. Scerate

    Scerate Notebook Evangelist

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    What does your device manager say under Details -> Hardware ID ? e.g. PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1180&CC_0300
     
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    USB\UNKOWN for the unknown device. I talked to my dealer, but they say that they believe it is a driver fault. Googling suggests that it is a hardware fault, though.
     
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    Myself i would try to reinstall the OS maybe it disappears, i guess that you don't using the P170HM BIOS right? Cause after flashing that i had to install an Infrared Driver too

    Gesendet von meinem Nexus 7 mit Tapatalk 2
     
  22. kevindd992002

    kevindd992002 Notebook Virtuoso

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    What is thaiphoon burner?

    Can you not just download the usb drivers in the Internet? Station-Drivers: le site de drivers, bios, firmwares avec un forum d'aide
     
  23. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    its a program with which u can change and flash spd firmwares onto ram sticks. aside from intel xtu and bios the only way to OC ram. costs around 20 bucks.

    cheers

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  24. kevindd992002

    kevindd992002 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Is it a permanent change to the spd firmwares?
     
  25. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    if by "permanent" u mean: changes stick after a reboot, then yes. as i said, u basically write a new firmware onto the modules, comparable to flashing a new vbios onto a gpu :)
     
  26. Nuukeer

    Nuukeer Notebook Enthusiast

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    I want to make sure I do it exactly right, and on the CD there is 4 steps, I believe, and I don't know which drivers are to be installed in which order. I want this because I want to be correct in a decision to return it for a replacement/repair.
     
  27. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    A little tip with thaiphoon burner, change one stick at a time and make sure that single stick can boot by itself so even if the machine dislikes both sticks you always have a recovery option.

    If you write a profile to both sticks that will not boot with just one or both running you will lock yourself out of your system until you can get more ram.
     
  28. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    luckily, ram is dirt cheap these days :)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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    Yes but the delay of getting hold of some is not so great, you can also buy a cheap stick of low speed memory which will force your better ram to default to the slower speed to recover too.
     
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    Hello,

    I've a P150HM with a 580M GTX card, the machine is about 10 months old.

    I am having over heating problems when gaming causing big frame rate drops and occasionally a hard system restart. The game runs smoothly as expected until the temperature rises too high, so I'm confident this is an over heating problem.

    Some stats... (gathered at ambient temperature ~25 C with Nvidia Inspector and Core Temp)

    Idle temperatures:
    CPU: 50 GPU: 46

    Under heavy load:
    CPU: 85-90 GPU 80-90

    I've cleaned the dust from the air intake and fans. I've tried elevating the machine to increase the airflow. Neither of these have had an appreciable affect.

    I've looked into adjusting the fan-settings, but the built in fans seem incapable of interfacing with available software (I've tried Speedfan). I am reluctant to reapply the thermal paste as the machine is quite new and I would be surprised if this was the issue.

    I've ordered a cooling fan base for the machine (Thermaltake Massive23 LX Notebook Cooler) to try and fix this problem when I am at home, but I was wondering if there is anything else people would recommend for keeping temperatures under control?

    I've also noticed that the air intake vents are quite small under the GPU, does anyone have experience in modifying the air-intake vents on the machine, and if so what are your thoughts?

    Thanks!
     
  31. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Could you post up some graphs of this behavior from MSI afterburner and the like to see which of the CPU or GPU is causing the issue?
     
  32. M3ezu

    M3ezu Notebook Consultant

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    Not a whole lot of love in this thread anymore... Has everyone jumped ship to EM-series/alienware/msi? :/
     
  33. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    nah, my guess is that not a lot of the HM owners are really active on NBR anymore :) but some do actually return ;)
     
  34. Ajfountains

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    What are the key differences between the HM and EM series?
     
  35. Support.1@XOTIC PC

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    Different laptop generations mainly. The NP8xxx series all used the Nvidia GTX5xx series of GPU and the i7-2xxx CPUs.
     
  36. jaybee83

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    yupyup, altho GPU compatibility is given for the current-gen, the HM series is unable to support Ivy Bridge CPUs. differences are pretty minimal and constrict themselves to a backlighted keyboard, an mSATA port for mini SSDs, a Displayport and 1 or 2 USB ports switched from 2.0 to 3.0 capability (and of course the updated intel chipset). aside from those, the two gens are almost identical in build design, exteriors and internals.
     
  37. M3ezu

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    + HM series is pure awesomeness while EM and enduro is a pain in the butt... especially since it doesn't even give much more battery time.
     
  38. Ajfountains

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    So the HM models preceded the EM models. Glad i jumped on board when I did as I like the keyboard and am saving up for a nice 1920x1200 (at least) displayport display
     
  39. jaybee83

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    to each his/her own id say :) having an hm machine it surely doesnt make much sense upgrading to an em machine. but as a completely new buy the em series is surely among the better choices in the laptop market :)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  40. Meaker@Sager

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    The HM series also avoided a lot of the enduro issues of the EM series so they have been laughing on that front for a while.
     
  41. jaybee83

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    didnt wanna put too much stress on that in case any EM owner out there might feel sad about that.... but yeah :rolleyes: :cool::tongue::laugh:
     
  42. smellon

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    Good evening, I'm finally jumping ship and ordered a used p150hm with a 485m. I'm a generation old but I'm really excited.

    Are there any outstanding issues with this model?

    I'm coming from an asus g53sw so the 485m will be a big improvement over the 460m. Are there any other differences I should expect? USB 3.0 never seemed to work right as well as Bluetooth but those were an Atheros card compared to the p150's Intel.

    I plan on replacing the ODD with a HDD caddy and maybe over the summer drop in a 7970m.

    Not to thread hijack but, the seller damaged the cord running from the power brick to the laptop after I had paid for the item. Should I confront him about returning money for a replacement?

    Also, the only genuine replacements are about 90-100$, could I get one of the eBay replacements for ~50$ and be okay?
     
  43. Ajfountains

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    I wouldn't use the term confront, but politely bringing up the matter could leave to a favourable resolution. If it was from a retail store, you'd be able to return it. Maybe the seller can help you find a new one and chip in for the purchase
     
  44. jaybee83

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    @smallon: that was exactly the config i had when i bought my hm machine and ive had no issues with it whatsoever :) the 485m is a very strong card and u can expect double the performance of a 460m. with a slight 10% oc u can easily get it to 580m/675m levels.
    as for usb 3.0, its true that initially the drivers/firmwares for the renesas usb chip werent really hassle-free, as the usb 3 ports would only show up every 4-5 bootups or so. now with win8 and the inbuilt usb 3 driver they run as they should tho :)
    concerning the psu cable: define "damaged"? as in unuseable? cuz its actually a quite common issue that the outer insulating layer of the cable gets broken right at the connection to the brick. i have the same thing, reason for it being that this part of the cable is probably just too stiff to be able to resist for long. doesnt mean that the psu is broken tho, still works like a charm :) as i said, if its only the outermost insulating layer of the cable then u should be fine.

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    That is really good advice fountains. I'll do that and see if he will split the cost of a new genuine adapter.

    Jay, he says it works fine. In the pictures he sent of the repair, it was the end that connects the brick to the laptop, at the L-shaped connector that plugs into the laptop.
     
  46. jaybee83

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    ah ok, with a fault like that im unfamiliar then :)
     
  47. Meaker@Sager

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    You could order a generic 180W PSU for $30 and move over the cable from the new to the old, it can need a special screwdriver and will require soldering however. It's certainly something they should have mentioned.
     
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    Yeah. It came missing some rubber pads, but the battery has lost ~50%. The charger works fine though.
     
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    Alright, I'm pretty much fed up with my FHD 96% Gamut Glossy screen on my NP8150. It's way too pink - it has always been too pink. And now I can't stop thinking about it. Even color calibration doesn't stop it being pink from angles. Is this an issue with my monitor and should I have it replaced (my reseller jumped ship so I would have to be buying and shipping the monitor to Asia...) or is this some up with the connectors?

    I've had tons of with this laptop - the reseller was terrible. The GPU failed, and, while swapping it out with a direct Clevo seller (which was new, not around when I was initially shopping) who went through the process of ordering a HD7970M with Sager's BIOS and stuff, found out that the paste job done was absolutely . I'm not sure if my IEEE is working till now, and my monitor is now untolerable.

    Any help? Just order a new monitor? Tear this open and check the connectors?
     
  50. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    You could try some of the color profiles Sager posted for the 95% screens on the NP8150 here Software Upgrade
     
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