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    *** Official Sager NP8150/Clevo P150HM Owners Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Daniel Hahn, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. Hubris2

    Hubris2 Notebook Consultant

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    Well, I'm not getting much support from the vendor I contacted, and as I'm out of warranty, I might just make a swap back to using a desktop for gaming. If so, I'll post in the forsale section with my parts available forsale. Functionally I can reuse my SSD, but everything else in the system (with the exception of the assumed-failed systemboard) can be available.
     
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    good to know - will have an eye on that...

     
  3. masamra

    masamra Notebook Enthusiast

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    guys i have an np8150 with a dead 6990m, my Q is can i run a dell or msi nvidia card(560m, 580m)?????
     
  4. Hubris2

    Hubris2 Notebook Consultant

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    No, you can only run the 4Gb model intended for Sager/Clevo. The ones from Dell won't have the right vbios.
     
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    aha, i see in ur specs a 680m! is it a plug and play? and where to buy online?

    thanks...
     
  6. Hubris2

    Hubris2 Notebook Consultant

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    I bought the 680m on Ebay from one of the vendors who sell Clevo hardware. It is plug and play to get the card working, however you need to make a small change in the .ini before you install the video driver in the OS. It's easy, and is documented if you search on Google. My 6990 died so I replaced with this and it worked well for about 6 months...unfortunately my systemboard has now died - so I will probably be selling the 680 and other parts from my P150HM in the marketplace at that time.
     
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    Hubris2,

    is the HDMI Port working with the nvidia card?

     
  8. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    afaik it is, only some subrevisions of the 7970M v1.2 cards have problems outputting video signals via HDMI on the HM series
     
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  9. jessi3k3

    jessi3k3 Notebook Evangelist

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    I've had my NP8150 for almost 3 years and my battery is almost giving out. Windows is reporting to consider replacing my battery and HWMonitor reports a 62% wear level on it. Has anyone bought a replacement battery and can you recommend a good, reputable seller? I've had terrible luck with 3rd party sellers in the past with replacement batteries for other laptops. Generally they have always died within a few weeks so I'm afraid now of dropping around $100 US on a new battery to only have it die.

    Also, I'm surprised my 6990m has been working great (knock on wood) all this time without problems.
     
  10. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Many resellers carry spares, the latest series using the basic chassis design share the same battery iirc.
     
  11. benderr

    benderr Notebook Guru

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    they check motherboard,and officially :replace a power chip and 2 capacitors .
    Good lack.man!
     
  12. benderr

    benderr Notebook Guru

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    update;today was cleaning a heaters-there one bolt 20150506_105643.jpg is missing........
    Update after 1/2 hour :
    BAD NEWS for me - the bolt is not missing, it;s broken! The head overturned! Must think what to do. in quiet mode t GPU is 46-58, but in game KerbalSpase (some places on a ground) - go till 96......and i immediately torn game of .....not good...... :(
     
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  13. trvelbug

    trvelbug Notebook Prophet

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    I had basically the same problem you posted. Here's my post :

    How much did it cost you to replace?

    Also, regarding your screw, can't you buy a spare screw from the same guys who fixed your laptop or get one in the hardware with approximately the same size?

    Sent from a Galaxy far, far away
     
  14. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Ask your reseller to source a new x bracket and screw if the thread is stuck inside.
     
  15. someguy65

    someguy65 Newbie

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    Hi

    I am working on a P150hm for a customer, with a dead 580m. Will not power up with card inside. Powers up (but no post) with card removed.

    Ordered a 770m. Fitted it, and it powers up, but does not post.

    Is there anything I can try?

    Really appreciate any suggestions, thanks for your time :)
     
  16. someguy65

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    Is the screw completely filling the hole? If there's enough space in there to get another much shallower screw in ON TOP, that might work. You will likely need a washer though, to shorten the length going into the hole.
     
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    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    Are you using a Clevo GPU or another brand. It has to be a Clevo.
     
  18. someguy65

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    No, it's just a standard 770m from a different gaming laptop.

    Damn. Thanks for the reply though.
     
  19. benderr

    benderr Notebook Guru

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    it was cost a 20 for analysis and 65 for fixing power chip and 2 capacitors. and i course go to service and take lot of screws... and only after it i was found a broken one . till now the GPU still working - i us a extra vent to laptop... only watching a temp more carefully .. max was 93 .
     
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    benderr Notebook Guru

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    no,i see only 2 ways:send to company to replace (but this can be even worse ) or try superglue to glue the tip of the needle and remove the bolt chippy .
     
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    reseller HawkForce.de is died ... :(
     
  22. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    'All' systems that where officially imported into Europe are covered by Clevo's warranty and can be serviced through their official service center Golden Star:

    http://www.clevo-computer.de/index_e.htm

    Just contact them with your systems serial number for spares and repairs.
     
  23. jcrouch001

    jcrouch001 Newbie

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    I have one of these that I have used extensively over the past few years. Just a few days ago I spilled some beer down the keyboard. I shut it off and removed the battery and let it dry for a few days before doing a standard cleaning of the inside (that's all I know how to do). I have turned it back on and all seems to be working except for the trackpad. I can get the trackpad to respond if I use a full finger with a fair amount of pressure, but it is nowhere near as sensitive as before. Is there anything that I can do that might fix this?
     
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    You can check to see if the cable is seated properly on both the motherboard and trackpad, otherwise you need to either replace the cface or pry off the pad and replace it.
     
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    How do I access the trackpad (to check if the cable is properly seated)? Like I said, I have only taken the back off to take out the fans and heatsinks to do a standard cleaning + repaste. I haven't figured out how to do anything after that.
     
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    It's not easy, you will need to do a fairly big teardown and follow a guide.
     
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    The trackpad will work if I apply a more than normal amount of pressure and it is slower than it used to be. Do you think that this could still be a problem with the cable? Do you know where one would find such a guide. I have looked but been unsuccessful in finding anything related to this machine other than the manual.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    First google result of P150HM teardown is a video showing how.
     
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    Prostar Computer Company Representative

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    Getting to the trackpad entails removing the entire top portion of the chassis, which means you need to remove every screw from the bottom first. It's unlikely a cable issue and more likely either a touchy trackpad board or poor grounding.
     
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    Tommo2400 Newbie

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    Hey guys,

    I've had my P150HM for 4 years now. Been great for me, but now it's on deaths door for me. I think I'm due an upgrade, but firstly I need to fix the issues I'm having with it.

    Month ago, the graphics card, an ATI 6990M, gave out. The laptop would turn on but I had no display. I've now tried replacing it, but I'm getting different issues.

    Now when I power it up, it goes through the POST checks fine, then after about 5 seconds the fans come on full power, and it emits a high beeping around every 3 seconds and the 3 lights next the power switch light up. Then after about 10 seconds it turns off.

    So what I've tried so far is checking temperatures (while I have the brief chance) and nothing goes above 45°. I've tried swapping out the memory sticks, and taken out the battery to be powered only through mains. I've tried looking for what the beeping means and it points to overheating. Having checked the temp sensors through this doesn't seem right.

    So, anyone have any ideas of what it could be?

    Thanks,
    Tom
     
  31. Hubris2

    Hubris2 Notebook Consultant

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    Did you replace the video with the 'correct' card with a Sager flash? Some of the video cards don't send correct temperature data back to the BIOS and the computer does a panic shut-down to prevent overheating.
     
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    Was it a Clevo branded card? Most other brands will not work.
     
  33. Tommo2400

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    No, the replacement's from an Alienware laptop. I suppose I'd need to somehow flash the card?
     
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    If you can find a compatible vBIOS, that is. Typically the Dell cards do not work in Clevos (there are some rare instances otherwise, but they're the exception, not the rule).
     
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    OK. Not something I've done before. I'm sure I can find instructions, but where'd I find a compatible vBIOS?
     
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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...modded-vbios-for-clevo-p1xxhm-laptops.688656/ is a link to a discussion around the procedure for blind re-flashing the 7970m...which may not be the specific instructions you require, but will give you an idea of what would be involved. If you aren't fairly comfortable with the activity, it's not necessarily something you would want to try.
     
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    <edit> sorry wrong thread.
     
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    Having read and considered the instructions, I've just got 2 issues.

    First, is there a way I can disable the auto-reboot so I have enough time to reflash the card? With just 4 mins or so, it's tight.

    Second, I've not yet found a vbios specifically for making a dell 6990m work in a Clevo laptop. Anyone have a good source?

    Thanks,

    -Tom
     
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    If you mean the beeping from the EC, then no that can't be stopped.
     
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    Any way to stop it from automatically shutting down because of the false heat alert? It only gives me around 2 mins to try to fix things at the moment before shut down.
     
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    Well I've managed to get it flashed with a Clevo 6990m vBios in time by following the guide. However, it's not made any difference. The laptop still boots up, then after 30 seconds the fans come on full power and there's a high pitch beep every 3 seconds. 2 minutes after starting, it shuts down. WTFs happening?
     
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  42. jaybee83

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    not really sure if u can flash a dell card to a clevo version that easily...best bet is to sell that dell card and get urself a clevo one...

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    The EC is still not happy with the card or maybe with one of the fans in the system.
     
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    Hi there, I'm new here. :)

    I have an Eurocom Racer, which is based on the Clevo P150HM, so I think this would be the right place to ask. Here's the manufacturer's page: http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(1,219,0)ec

    It's configured with i7-2760QM and Radeon 6970M. I bought it from Eurocom over 3 years ago, so it's long out of warranty.

    When I first bought it, I had a problem with the video card. As in, it died within the first week. Eurocom support was great, they overnighted me a replacement for free. I installed it, and all was fine. I didn't think of it until recently. I must say I'm experienced with building computers, been making my own rigs since 1998. I used proper thermal paste (AS5), made sure everything has proper thermal contact etc. As a precaution I always used a cooling pad with dual fans under the laptop for the past 3 years. No problems until recently.

    In the past few months I noticed that the system fan is active very often, at high levels even when not doing stuff that's very CPU- or GPU-intensive. I started monitoring my temps, and was surprised to notice that the CPU temps were in the 65-70 degrees, and more annoyingly that the GPU temps even when not under load were in the 80-90 degrees range. When playing recent Unity games, while there was no problem with gameplay, framerate etc - the GPU temp would shoot up to 103-105 degrees. The CPU would also go up but not as much, up to 93-95 degrees.

    I became worried that I may fry something, and redid the thermal paste on both the CPU and the GPU. I of course cleaned very well the old paste, then aplied AS5 again since it has served me very well for many years. I kept monitoring the temps, and while I did see some improvement it wasn't great. Under load the GPU still gets to 101 degrees. The CPU usually stays under 90.

    I also cleaned the fan and heatsinks of dust and grime to make sure airflow is unobstructed - but it also didn't make a difference in terms of temps.

    Then, I redid the thermal paste on the CPU and GPU again, this time with IC Diamond, thinking it will maybe gain me a few degrees. Nope, still same temps as AS5.

    Right now I'm stumped. Why has the cooling performance on my laptop degraded so? 3 years ago, temps were at max 92-93 degrees under heavy GPU load, now they're over 10 degrees higher with state-of-the-art thermal compound and very careful assembly, cleaning etc.

    I'm a bit scared of running anything GPU-intensive right now, as I may fry stuff. I have even begun considering downgrading to a less powerful video card such as a 6770M, which will degrade performance to half (480 shaders vs 960) but has a TDP of 35W vs 6970's 75-100W.

    I don't know what else to do.
     
  45. jaybee83

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    hmmm ok.....so uve cleaned the fans, the heatsinks, the heatsink fins, repasted, checked for correct placement of thermal pads and proper heatsink contact (not that the screws cant get a proper grip anymore or smth)...

    habe u checked ur task manager for any unusual program activity during idle? another possibility would be some kinda virus or trojan that puts additional load onto ur system...

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Yes I have; the system is very clean. I am very careful about these things.

    Besides I get the same kinds of temperatures in Linux.

    (I dual-boot Win7 and Funtoo)
     
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    ok, thats good info... have u checked the heatsink installation? do they make proper contact on both cpu and gpu, are not loose or anything? based on ur previous post im assuming u know how to do a proper paste job, so that cant be the culprit... also recheck if ur thermal pads are still alright, they tend to get pretty worn after a while and might show cracks.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    To make sure I reseated everything several times and testing temps after each reseat... Besides, the degradation in temps happened without any mechanical change to the heatsink, since until recently the last time I had touched it was in 2012. Maybe something else happened. Fan not meeting speeds? But it sounds the same. Internal degradation of heatpipes?

    I would order a new heatsink assembly from Eurocom, but it costs almost $300 (including the heatsink, fan, pads, hardware - guess I could reuse the screws and not pay an extra $10 for them LOL). Almost as much as a replacement video card.
     
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    might be one of the heatpipes having been damaged somehow...ill check out that link and see if i can come up with anything else :) until then, good luck my friend and keep us updated here!
     
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