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    *** Official Sager NP8150/Clevo P150HM Owners Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Daniel Hahn, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. stamasd

    stamasd Notebook Enthusiast

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    Wow I'm impressed. I managed to get my temperatures down by about 20 degrees. I can hardly believe it.

    I followed some of the steps from that post... the pressure testing didn't make any changes, so I think I did a good job with the pasting and applying heatsink. :) But the airleaks, oh the airleaks... the thing leaks like a sieve. I used some kapton tape to make nice air ducts, and that dropped my temperatures like I don't believe. Prior to that I had 103 degrees on GPU and 75-76 on the CPU in Furmark. Now in the same test I have 84 and 58 respectively. When I put the lid back on the GPU goes up to 88, CPU stays same... so guess next I'll work on enlarging the intake vents for the GPU fan. Already the improvement is impressive though, I'm very happy. Too bad the registration system on the other forum is broken because I'd like to thank the author.
     
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    aaaah right, the foil tape mod, totally forgot about that one! also did that with my P150HM, it indeed helped the temps significantly :) glad u got it figured out buddy! so it sounds like the issue in your case was the ever so slight enlargement or those air duct "leaks", thus not sufficient hot air being delivered out of the system, but rather getting trapped inside the chassis...

    fun fact: that foil tape mod was originally discovered by members here at NBR and over at TI and used to be a very common mod for HM/EM/SM series laptops. nowadays clevo actually implements this "mod" as a factory option and stuffs out all the air leaks themselves (like on my current P751ZM machine) ;)
     
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    If you can call 5mm gaps "slight"... :)

    well anyway this has saved me from wasting money on another video card and/or heatsink, as I'm very happy with how the 6970 performs and I see no good reason to replace it now that the temp problem is solved.

    Thanks!

    (now I'm off to duct-tape my W110ER as well, because I just inspected it and noticed it also has 5mm gaps, even though it doesn't have a significant heat problem... yet)
     
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    Hi I recently installed Windows 10 Pro on my Clevo P150HM with bios 1.01.14 and EC 1.00.13. But I noticed that my cpu shows 100% in Windows Task Manager.

    Processor View:
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    Details View:
    [​IMG]


    I also used Process monitor to check if my CPU was really using 100% and it clearly isn't. Has encountered this issue?

    I know some other people have had this issue with desktop computers with sandybridge processor and they had to update their bios. http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...t/00c92238-9382-4946-bc6a-bbc451888b96?auth=1

    But I know Clevo won't be releasing a bios for this laptop, so I'm not sure what I can do about it?

    Any help is much appreciated
     
  5. godlyatheist

    godlyatheist Notebook Evangelist

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    It will be like that for a little bit, the OS is indexing all the files. You can reduce CPU usage buy turning off indexing, but it's not necessary since this only needs to happen once.
     
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    That's the EC incompatiblity. The computer thinks the video card is overheating and shutting it down for protection. You have to use a Clevo card, Dell ones won't work
     
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    I have tried to disable indexing but it didn't do anything to reduce the CPU 100%


    But I still have the original NVIDIA 485M the one I got from clevo. I agree that the EC could be the cause but I'm not sure that Clevo will release anything to fix it
     
  8. jaybee83

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    i think that EC remark was directed at Tommo2400 and not you, robsworld2006 :)

    well the way i see it, the only "issue" here is that the windows task manager wrongly shows u 100% cpu load, correct? but u said before that the actual cpu load is NOT 100%. soooo....why not just ignore the task manager then? :p
     
  9. Meaker@Sager

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    Can you post bigger images of the task list thanks.
     
  10. robsworld2006

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    I am ignoring it just wondering if anyone else has come across this issue
     
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    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
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    Hey robsworld2006 and all of you running Windows 10 on our beloved device,

    besides robsworlds issue with cpu usage reporting, are you satisfied with the upgrade so far?
    Did you notice any incompatibilities yet, especially with all things power management related / "Hotkey.exe"?
    Any Games / Apps / Drivers that worked with Win7 / 8.1 but do not work with Win10?
    Radeon 6970M/6990M anyone?

    I´m still on Win7, no time for testing the whole thing, therefore i´m counting on this wonderful community here! :)
    Thanks in advance!
     
  13. jaybee83

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    great to see that there are still active P150HM owners out there :) keep that machine alive as long a possible folks, its an awesome piece of hardware! :D
     
  14. ministerofprops

    ministerofprops Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi Jaybee
    I have a p150hm. And I love older hardware. I have always been a fan boy of Alienware. But now Clevo seems to have my fan boy interest. easier to work on and repair.
    I would love to get the faster processor and video card replacement, so I can up the ram to 1600mz.
     
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  15. ministerofprops

    ministerofprops Notebook Enthusiast

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    As to the win 10 upgrade. I tried and as for lack of drivers and such sticking with win 7 for now.
     
  16. Meaker@Sager

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    Have things calmed down now?
     
  17. godlyatheist

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    The only driver you need for Win 10 is really the graphics card one, everything else is already included in the Win 10 install.
     
  18. jaybee83

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    from personal experience i can say that the p150hm has no problems with win8.1, found all necessary drivers for that :) unfortunately, my machine died before i upgraded to win10, so no info there...

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
  19. robsworld2006

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    @ ph3n0m3n0n Hotkey works, all drivers tend to work including the intel ones etc. With Windows 10 all driverst that were 8.1 should work without problems.

    @Meaker no still the same issue. I never tried Windows 8.1 so I don't know if the issue existed on that either. I know lots of people having the issue with sandy bridge cpus so maybe an update will fix this
     
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  20. pooplickoff

    pooplickoff Newbie

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    I don't know if anyone else has had the same problems as me after upgrading to windows 10, but here it goes:

    1) I cannot control the brightness of my screen anymore using the inbuilt function keys, so I had to install a third party app to do that.

    2) I lost multitouch gestures on my touchpad, even after updating the synaptics drivers for windows 10.

    3) Sometimes the wifi connection just fails, and then goes back online. I do not think its the wifi's problem, because before the update I did not have problems, and my smartphone does not seem to have the same problems.

    Has anyone else had the same problems? Any ideas on solutions?

    Otherwise things seem to work well. No problems playing games, or doing work.
     
  21. ministerofprops

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    Same issues.
    Hot key no dimmage.
    Wifi issues with new drivers
    New drivers for video card caused card to over heat and fans unresponsive. Reverted to old drivers.
    Finger print reader locked me out of harddrive initially until I was able to uninstall in safe mode.
     
  22. godlyatheist

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    I'd suggest you do a clean install, many weird issues when upgrading from 7 or 8.
    1) The brightness control don't need any drivers, 10 should have them. Worked for me out of the box
    2) can't comment, I know the gestures were pretty bad even on 7
    3) Yes, this happens. I have no idea why. The amount of DNS timeout also seems to have increased
     
  23. pooplickoff

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    I did do a clean install actually, and these problems still persist.

    The brightness problems might be caused by me changing the graphics card and the bios for the motherboard, but I am not entirely sure.

    Besides that the keyboard also fails several hours into use but only for a handful of applications. As I am writing this, I cannot type anything on Skype, or the start menu, but Google Chrome does not seem to be having any problems.

    And godlyatheist, the touch pad gestures were actually not that bad for windows 7. Maybe not as good as ones on Apple laptops (which if Apple fanboys are to be believed, are the gold standard), so it's a shame that I can no longer use them!
     
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    Floridan79 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Brightness problems FIX:

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0000]

    "KMD_EnableBrightnessInterface2"=dword:00000000
     
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    @robsworld2006, I get the same thing when task manager first opens.
     
  27. jaybee83

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    gee, that nickname.... *lol*

    anyways, so does your post can be interpreted that the 100% cpu thing only pops up at first, but then recedes after a while? since u said "when task manager first opens"...
     
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    Yes sir, only when it first opens, so it's not a huge issue.

    The registry edit worked for the brightness, so thanks Floridan79!

    I tried to do some registry edits for the touchpad, but nothing works. I can't even find the synaptics screen on the hardware settings panel, despite the fact I have tried to install the drivers several times.
     
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    have u tried the latest stock drivers provided by clevo or your reseller? i have found that touchpad drivers can be very finicky on the p150hm when using non-stock drivers, but rather the "latest version" one could find online...

    if they dont install, u might wanna try running as administrator and/or using compatibility mode for windows 7/8
     
  30. Mr Najsman

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    Maybe not active but my HM with 2960XM and 7970M is still alive and kicking! Though since Batmans arrival its main duties are streaming childrens movies and the occasional game when my brother visits.
    Always liked that machine.
     
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    A lot of machines these days wish they had that level of performance ;)
     
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    And reliability - all I've bought for it in nearly 5 years is an adapter and finally now a new battery. It is a 580m not radeon though :)

    If mxm cards were cheaper I'd have upgraded and still be using it instead of offloading it onto my brother (who still flogs it daily) but i got a P170EM for a steal on eBay and have to say the extra everything, msata slots, optimus battery life, 680m boost, and the couple of extra inches is nice.

    (that's what she said badoom tish)
     
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    That EM can actually go to the 9xx series so you are aware ;)
     
  34. stamasd

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    Happy to report that my p150hm is alive and kicking ass in games. Since I solved its heat problems a month ago it's happy as a clam. It's still my primary laptop, and I have no need for extra performance as it does all I need. My only wish is that it had a backlit keyboard - oh well.
     
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    Hi there!

    I have an old Sager np8150 (Clevo p150hm) with 680m on board and Win10_64 running. I'm unable to install any win10 drivers [​IMG] Tryed different versions from laptopvideo2go.com
    More than that - previously working win8 ver (353) installs, but always stopped by windows (code 43).
    Is there any way to install newest drivers to my new system?

    PS I don't want to change it, because Witcher III runs on it on almost highest quality...
     
  36. jaybee83

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    have you tried with driver signature enforcement disabled?
     
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    What is the newest bios for P150EM?
    Is there a way to add "hdd password" in bios?
     
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  38. Meaker@Sager

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    Check the old bios sticky thread in the main sager/clevo section.
     
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    yep, u can definitely set up a password to enter the bios :)
     
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    My mistake. I ment hdd password in bios.
     
  41. jaybee83

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    hmmm, that im not sure about. u should be able to find that option pretty easily. if not, its most probably cuz it aint there :p
     
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    No the HM series does not support HDD password protection.
     
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    For anyone still using their P150hm that's just upgraded to windows 10 and has no sound, the fix is
    1.Ensure you have correct chipset and audio drivers from http://www.sagernotebook.com/drivers.php?cat=546 (yes the windows 7 ones)
    2. Go to playback devices (right click speaker icon)
    3. Windows now sees 3 different sets of speakers, and defaults to the wrong one. Right click the other 2 and click test, and set as default the one you hear sound with
     
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    awesome to see active p150hm users nowadays, loved that machine to death (literally *lol*) and would still be using it today if it hadnt given up on me hardware-wise :(

    anyways, all you HM users out there: theres grapevine talk about a potential new gpu upgrade path popping up sometime in the future.... ;) could be worth it to keep your eyes peeled and HM machines ready!

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    What are you referring to jaybee83?? I still have a P150HM at home!
     
  46. jaybee83

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    just unsubstantiated rumours at this point, but interesting nonetheless ;) patience :)

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Interesting news, I'll keep an ear out at least :)
     
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    My P150HM had the 680M go bad on it. This is official the worst gaming laptop I have owned as far as reliability goes, 2 dead video cards. If there is an upgrade path for the video card, it may be worth it for a revival. So far I'm really digging my NP8651.
     
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    ah well, at least with the HM ull only need to replace the gpu, if anything goes sour with your p650se ull have to replace the whole mainboard = the entire machine

    for now, theres only the 680M / 7970M as the most powerful gpus for the HM series.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Yes, nothing beyond that has been developed due to the different bios structure it uses.
     
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