*** Official Sager NP8150/Clevo P150HM Owners Lounge ***

nice paint job

 

I installed heatsinks on my gpu yesterday and I have noticed a difference in temps. I'm running on average 4*C cooler under load. I haven't noticed any higher mother board temps with the new setup. With a laptop cooler and the gpu overclocked to 870/1075 I never see temps above 78*C while playing SC2. Before I would see it up to 85*C with out the mod.

For my install I used the thermal pads that came with the heatsinks. I ordered some Arctic Cooling MX-4 paste and I will reapply the heatsinks with it once it arrives. I'm hoping to see another couple degrees drop. I'll probably repaste the gpu while I'm at it.

All in all $15 for a 4-7*C drop in temp is worth it IMO.

 

If it does work, disregard my previous comment. I'm no expert, just learned at school how to calculate and apply heatsinks.
You're using a laptop cooler, however. I guess the small heatsinks wouldn't work as well without it since in general, coolers move air over the whole laptop, which includes the location of the small heatsinks.
For $5, it's worth a try. Even if they do displace heat inside the case, it won't cause a failure. An IR thermometer would be best to see what effect those heatsinks have. I may try it once I receive my laptop.

 

Is it 4-7C cooler than the laptop w/ no heatsinks and using laptop cooler, or 4-7C cooler than laptop w/ no heatsink or cooler.

 

I have tested each individual stick of ram with memtest and found 1 stick to have errors but I did that before I even did cpu stress testing. Everyone knows to do ram testing first. The current pair of 2x4gb has passed 8 loops of memtest without error.

 

I tested with no heatsinks and with the cooler, then with heatsinks and the cooler. So the cooler was in both tests. Even without the notebook cooler the heatsinks still make a difference in temp.

 

If you do try it, make sure to use thermal paste to apply the heatsinks. I'm using thermal pads until my paste arrives in the mail next week. I may mod the pannel to allow for even more air flow where the gpu is. Maybe cut out a 2x2 inch squre and replace it with a black metal mesh.

 

two images of my laptop failing various stress tests. Also a little funny that it caused windows gadgets to crash twice.

 

ATTN people with the 95% gamut matte screen.

Switch between these two pages (load as tabs) rapidly. If you see red blotches fading into the black, your screen is defective.

Pure black test screen
Colour test screen

 

I just loaded up my gpu and cpu to 100% while on battery and after about 30 seconds the system just shut down. The battery was crazy hot is this normal?

 

^ Sounds like thermal protection shutting the laptop down, but after 30 seconds? Is it overclocked? What were you doing specifically to "load" up the laptop?

 

furmark and intel burn test. It isn't overclock but I did turn off amd's battery saving feature in an attempt to drain the battery as fast as humanly possible. Also noticed while on battery my cpu wont go above a multiplier of 12. I do understand why it shut down what I am wondering is if this is expected behavior?

another question I can't seem to find an option in the bios to boot up with numlock on. Anyone know where that might be?

 

Hi everyone - sorry to intrude on your owners club, as I'm not (yet?) an owner!
Please see my thread here : http://forum.notebookreview.com/wha...find-new-15-6-high-performance-laptop-uk.html and see if anyone can give me some feedback on the two very important points:
How is the touchpad in daily use? And how is the weight / heat on the bottom for sitting it on your lap?
The spec I'm looking at is on the other page, I don't know what kind of screen pcspecialist.co.uk provide other than that it's glossy - reviews I've read have been positive. If anyone can suggest any tweaks of that spec then please feel free (but upgrading gfx card is really out of the question, upper budget is as close to £1k as I can get)

Thanks a lot guys!

 

The touchpad isn't bad. On this model, it's rubberized like the rest of the machine so it takes getting used to. It's definitely not "slick". The machine itself weighs ~6.4 lbs, so you can estimate what that's like in your lap. (I use mine on a cooling pad in my lap all the time, so your mileage may vary). It's recommended that you don't just sit it on your lap without some hard surface though, because the intake fans are on the bottom and can get blocked that way. The entire outside of the machine (other than the exhaust fans at the back) stays cool during gaming though

For your budget, you may want to look at the P151HM1, which comes stock with the 560m and is a hard plastic exterior (and a bit cheaper)

 

It's simple. The battery on its own is not strong enough to handle the CPU and GPU pulling max power. It shut down to protect itself.

 

Like I said I know why it happened what I want to know is this is expected behavior. I don't like the idea that my battery isn't sufficient for the hardware attached to it.

 

The battery is sufficient to run all the hardware at limited and/or down-clocked speeds. The battery just doesn't have the oomph to run the CPU/GPU at full clocks and max power, so heavily down-clocked speeds on battery are normal. Shutting down is not, though it's not unheard of it you were to yank the power cord when running an intensive game that might cause it to draw more power than the battery can put out (even momentarily).

 

You'd need a monster battery, to power a 100W GPU plus a 45W CPU. No laptop in existence could do that.

 

Thanks for the info, exactly what I needed to know. My first powerful laptop and have never experienced this sort of stuff.

Kinda sucks then wish there was a way to disable cpu throttling as I have tested it and the battery can power a fully clocked gpu but not the cpu as well, which tells me there is plenty of power to run a full clock cpu on battery no problem.

 

I have heard of something called Throttlestop, but I don't know if it still works on newer CPUs and/or if it even works, period. Maybe give it a try?

 

Thanks for that , can anyone else confirm their opinions on the trachkpad

 

General consensus is the trackpad is from poor to average. Some people don't mind the "grippy" touchpad, others do. I haven't read a review yet that praises the touchpad.

 

I hate it but who uses a track pad to play games? As long as it works I am content since I will only be using it in class or other places where a mouse is not practical.

 

Hi guys,

I really need your help with the latest EC & BIOS for Sager NP8150.
Bought my notebook from XoticPC and there is no official donwload link from where I can get it.
I already posted in the CLEVO Bios Thread but no one has replied yet.
What I need is the latest EC/KBC (1.00.11) and BIOS (1.01.12) in ISO format.
I guess those are the latest builds.
Can someone upload the ISOs somewhere and post the link here?
Thanks!

 

Email Xotic support. With your current bios and EC/KBC # and your serial # found on the back of your laptop. They will get the appropriate stuff from Sager and send it your way.

They will highly dissuade you from going to a Clevo bios.

 

Thanks, I will do that. I don't want to use a Clevo bios

 

I thought Clevo and Sager used the same motherboard...

 

In the Clevo driver thread, it is recommended that Sager laptops stick with Sager BIOS, because if you flash a Sager laptop with a Clevo BIOS, you can no longer flash Sager's own modified BIOS on that laptop anymore. Doing so will brick it. I think there's some very slight modification to the motherboard that causes this to happen.

 

I've had the lappy for a few months and at first the touchpad felt very stiff and rubbery, but for the last month or two it has gotten pretty smooth to the point I dont use the mouse for simple tasks. Idk if it just smoothes out or if it might be some oils that have gotten on it or if I just got used to it, but for me it went from a 4 to about a 7 on usability (personal opinion)

 

Guys I was wondering where I can get some preset Calibration Profiles for a NP8150 standard Glossy Display with GTX 485M.
On Sager's Support site I cand find only for the 95% NTSC Color Gamut screens Glossy/Matte.

 

There currently aren't any standard ones out there. The 95% color gamut calibration profiles are relatively new as it is, and they're mostly a direct result of some of the color issues people were noticing. The stock screens shouldn't really need any calibration out of the box.

Granted, even the standard calibration profiles may not be helpful for people with 95% color gamut screens anyway. Every laptop (and screen) is unique, which necessitates calibration for that specific machine to get the best quality. The presets can get close, but won't be dead-on.

 

Thanks for the clarification!

 

i want to buy some new thermal pads for my 6970m.which one is the best??0,5mm,1 mm or 1.5mm??thx.

 

I apologize if this has been asked before, but is there a reason why the NP8130 ships with the 95% gamut screen while the NP8150 has the stock screen?

 

Those might be on special deals right now.

 

someone help??

 

For those with a 580M, what temps are you getting idle and during gaming? I'm deciding whether or not to take on Malibal's offer for $99 upgrade to 580M and wanted to see which card ran cooler.

 

For those who like sales...see below..
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Upgrade from 6990M to 580M for 99usd?

 

My benchmark with Unigine

View attachment Unigine benchmark results.pdf

 

how do you use the calibration profiles downloaded from sager site?

 

Updates bios, intel 320ssd and EC today. Thanks for the info in this thread!

LBJade: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOev_Thk7_w

 

Hello eveyone, ran into an issue with the lappy and I am currently stumped. About two weeks ago I turned the laptop on and noticed that my usual start up items were taking quite a while to start up. I've compared the times and its gone from 15 seconds to boot everything up to a min 1:20. To my kowledge nothing new has been installed, only my mom and sisters have been using it alot. But nothing seems out of place. The wierd part is only the appications that were set to start up are freezing such as steam, messenger, webroot, widgets,wifi connection etc. I can access everything else within those 15 seconds with no issues
I have already played around with msconfig and no matter what i disable/enable it still happens. Changing power settings doesnt affect anything either, but everynow and then I will get a startup with zero issues just like before, I'll restart and it will go back to freezing.

Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?

Thank you

 

reformat .

 

As in reinstall windows and everything????

 

It sounds like a last resort option, but from what you said you've ruled out the standard culprits. A full reinstall of Windows + drivers would let you know if it was a hardware issue or software, as startup times should go back to what they were when it was fresh out of the box.

If it does fix it, I'd suggest changing account permissions on everyone else so they can't install stuff without your permission

If that doesn't fix it, you may have a failing drive and an RMA is in order.

 

Laptop + Generator + hurricane
everything went better than expected.

 

A new collection to my games !


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Hmmm I'm afraid that's what it will come down to do. Mostly dreading it due to remapping the registry again for my windows user files.

Today I noticed that my laptop wanted to change the windows theme to basic on the start up. I know this happens when the ram is taxed so I pulled up task manager and everything checked out. I then restarted the lappy and pulled up the task manager rught at the start. While all my start up applications where frozen my cpu was at 3% max but as soon as it started to load it shot up to 100%, screen flickered than continued to hover at 30-60%. This never happened before the main issue begin.

Any ideas based on that? (I'm thinking the cpu is severely downclocking itself or is defective) temps appear to be normal will double check tomorrow

 

If temps are normal on the CPU, then it shouldn't be downclocking. Try running CPUz or HWinfo and checking that your frequencies are as expected. Also be sure that you didn't set the maximum CPU frequency at some low percentage in power manager.