*** Official Sager NP8150/Clevo P150HM Owners Lounge ***

Exactly. This has always been the reason why they don't sell old (but faster) cards.

Thanks for the explanation. How about when comparing different series (x values) with different y values? Say, the 485M and 560M. Do we always look at the y value and the z value?

 

I had rolled back to the 285.62 (final release) drivers before I got the problem.

@Travelbug
As for testing with other games as I said before I don't play any other games although I got hold of the singleplayer campaign of Crysis 2 just for the purpose. I don't really have the motivation or time to play it fully but I have run it for an hour without so much as a stutter. I should probably run it for a few more hours, but in the meantime know that when I ran the Battlefield 3 singleplayer campaign for the first time I remember it crashing somewhere between 3-5 times in the first hour of play.

 

That's the part I don't like about their numbering system.

You'll want to look at Malibal's link there to see how the cards benchmark towards each other. the 460M was replaced by the 560M, but you can see that both the 470M and 570M are better than it. The 570M that was released recently is sort of on par with the 485M. The 580M is currently NVidia's reigning champ. It can get confusing but that link really helps out. So, a 485M, if you can get a deal on it, would be a little better than buying a 570M.

 

I just got another Nvidia related error message for the first time, this time while running Cinema 4D; a 3D modeling application:



Perhaps I should reinstall my Nvidia drivers this time using Driver Sweeper to remove the components properly?

 

Right. Is the 470M and 570M still available from current resellers?

 

The 470M has been discontinued by Clevo. The 570M has not yet been made available by Clevo for the models.

 

Going with HD 6990...my video converter supports Cuda better

 

If you're looking for CUDA support, it's a Nvidia only feature. You'd want to look at the Geforce 560/485/580 or Quadro card lines. The AMD 6990 will not have CUDA support.

 

is it possible to overclock my 2630 in my np8150

 

No, only the HM67 chipset and XM branded Intel CPU's have the unlocked multiplier to allow overclocking. The P150HM runs on the HM65 chipset with no chance of unlocking the CPU, even if you had an XM model. You'd need a 2820XM or higher as well, whereas the 2630QM is multiplier locked.

 

is it possible to overvolt the 6990m

 

I would presume so.. but why would you overvolt your GPU on a laptop?

I surely know that a undervolt is possible
http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m17x/600465-6990m-undervolt-achieved.html

 

you could overvolt to slightly increase your overclock.
but its a risky proposition especially on a card thats laready known to run quite hot.
just be sure to take the usual precautionary measures.

 

So the 6990M is known to be hotter than the 580M?

 

yups thats what ive been seeing . 6990 slightly hotter than 580 and 6970 slightly hotter than 485

 

ah yes, but its not required with the 6990m not afa I have seen
overclocking without overvolting is possible asa you find a stable clock.

 

its definitely not required . in fact i d say your better off staying at stock voltage and find the most stable o/c from there.

 

exactly, I would recommend overclocking the GPU slightly and getting a good cooling underneath the laptop or just undervolting and be happy for the rest of your life.

 

actually the best cooling ive found is propping up the back of your laptop.
not even the sf-19 could lower temps compared to that.

 

What do you mean by propping up the back of the laptop?

 

1) Is Synaptics driver are installed?

2) Have you tried scrolling with 2 fingers on the pad (the Mac method)?

 

You elevate the back of the laptop by placing the feet onto something to raise them up a bit. It gives the intake fans under the laptop more clearance so they can pull air in more efficiently.

 

Sorry about slow to respond. The P150hm is better. Also I never play the waiting game with cpus the jumps are usually quite small. GPU jumps are more noticeable and I did wait for the 6990m to be offered before I ordered my laptop.

 

Also, HM67 usually has RAID + overclocking CPU (with XTU usually) benefits while the HM65 does not.

 

Yeah, the fans are quite strong and all they need is a little breathing room to operate at peak in my tropical country.
Also contrary to what some have mentioned, I don't find the fans annoyingly loud at all.

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I has always wondered how come they made the P150HM with the HM65 chipset and not with the HM67 since it has greater power.
Am I missing something or is there a specific reason for this current setting?



It appears to be that the HM67 outruns the HM65 in 2 basic and very useful points! Seems very odd to me..

 

Yes there is no question that the HM67 chipset is superior. The thing is the P150HM / 8150 model was not designed to be the EXTREME series release.

From the history of Clevo releases it is the 17" notebook machines that gets the ultimate chipset. In fact I do not know of any manufacturer that puts a HM67 in a 15" notebook.
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The simple reason behind this is to protect the sales of the 17" notebooks. If they put the overclocking and RAID capabilities in the 15" Sagers, then the number of people potentially buying the 17" ones will surely drop by a significant figure.

 

So what you are telling me is that that the statement you've made above me in the quote is the current reason to make the strongest 15" laptop possible.

But I don't get it, if they get their 15" to be the strongest ones on the market (as if they don't have that already) it would sell even better and I would only see that as something positive as it evens out the income, even thought the 17" would "only" be a bigger laptop with more room for another SSD and GPU etc.

I find it silly tbh, why limit?

 

Their "own" marketing strategy.

 

Ordered my 8150 from ExoticPC... ( Currently in Phase II)
here's my config,

Will i be able to use this laptop for another 1.5 years with this configuration ?
Purpose : Gaming , Web Development & Database Programing.

Display: 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080)
- Monitor Calibration: NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Dead Pixel Warranty: Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- Processor: 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2670QM, 2.2-3.1GHz,
- Thermal Compound: - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- Graphics Video Card: ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD6990 2048MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11
- Ram: 8GB - DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (4 SODIMMS)
- Branding: Sager Branding
- Exterior Finish: Standard Finish
- Primary Hard Drive: 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache) (SKU - S5R207)
- Optical Drive Bay: Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti DVDRW/CDRW Drive w/ - Memory Card Reader: Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- Wireless Network: Intel® Advanced-N 6230 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module + Bluetooth (SKU - S8R111)
- Camera: Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- Sound Card: Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Battery: Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- Fingerprint Reader: Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- Operating System: ~Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's

 

I hate it already

 

It's always a love-hate tragedy between consumers and the manufacturer.

 

Exactly

 

Is anyone experiencing any sleep issues with laptop, as in putting it to sleep and it not properly shutting down or waking up?

(after experiencing poor gpu performance on the lappie I sent it to xotic/sager where they said it was an os problem so they re-installed windows which seems to have taken care of the gaming performance, but since arrival and still today I'm experiencing sleep issues and my gpu fan is now very audible compared to before when it was whisper quiet at temps under 38c, even at 32c it sounds like it used to when my temps were at 45c and over.

The other things they did to it was that they updated the bios and gpu drivers to the latest. I downgraded the bios with no luck as well as upgraded and downgraded the gpu drivers with zero luck as well.

Anybody have any ideas?

 

i use a cordless usb mouse with my laptop. when i put it to sleep and i accidentally move the mouse it wakes up. i have to turn off the mouse so it doesnt do this. you may have a similar accessory causing it to wake up

 

The problem isnt that it wakes up, its actually that when i put it to sleep the screen shuts down but the gpu and cpu fan keep chugging along as if they didnt shut down than when I hit the power button the screen wont turn back on and the only way to recover is to do a hard shut down.

 

never had that issue even when shutting down the lid with a video running.
if there are no other symptoms , my guess the hardware is fine ,and its a driver issue.

 

Hi guys... need a fast answer to this:

Having a NP8150 with GTX485m and I would like to buy an LCD with 120Mhz (Samsung SyncMaster S23A750). Since the S23A750 has only HDMI and DisplayPort (which the notebook doesn't have) will I be able to use the 120Mhz over HDMI?
As far as i know 120mhz works only with DVI or DispalyPort.

Any suggestions?

 

You should be fine, Sager is shipping the HDMI 1.4 version with the NP8150, so you should be able to do 120Hz over HDMI (since 1.4 supports 3D capabilities, hence requiring 120Hz).

 

hey guys, sry for the bother, got a quick question:

Even after updating the BIOS, is it considered normal that the fan activity goes from quiet to audible to quiet again every couple seconds in office mode (surfing, working with Microsoft Office, etc.)?

because its seriously killing me

 

Yes the fans do fluctuate some while doing light things like office too.
Most users are not bothered by this though. Some will be unfortunately. Sorry.
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hmmm, are you 100% sure? From what I've read 120Hz is not supported over HDMI.
I am not really interested in 3D but more in 120Hz for BF3, thanks.

 

Yes, 120hz over HDMI is supported- HOWEVER it's limited to 24fps at 1080p or 50/60fps at 720p. It's an unfortunate limitation because most people prefer frame rates over 30 when gaming. It looks great for video however.

HDMI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you don't want the frame rate cap, using the DVI port to a display that supports DVI input is your best option.

 

Thanks Malibal... this is why I have asked . So I guess I won't be able to use the monitor with 120Hz. It only has HDMI adn DisplayPort which my Sager doesn't

 

Is the HDMI in the NP8130 also 1.4?

 

Here's the page from the NP81X0 manual. It does support HDMI 1.4.

 

That's the same config I am going for. You should definitely be able to use it for 1.5 years, as long as you don't drop it down a well or something

 

Yes this model should last you a good while!

For one it is very, very upgradable and easy for the end-user to do it themselves.
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Hi, this is my first foray into the world of Sager laptops, and I'm trying to make a few decisions on configs and whether they're worth it. I usually keep my computers as long as possible (4-5 years if possible), so a few quick questions to the forum:

1) CPU - worth upgrading from i7-2760 to i7-2860?

2) RAM - worth upgrading 8GB 1333MHz to 1600MHz?

3) Display - noticeable difference between stock and 95% Color Gamut display?

I plan on going with the ATI HD6990. Any help is much appreciated!