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    *** Official Sager NP8150/Clevo P150HM Owners Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Daniel Hahn, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. Abidderman

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    We are always glad to help.
     
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    I'm planning to do a clean install of Windows 7 on my machine, is there a correct order of installing the drivers (e.g. first the chipset, then the graphics, then the wireless, etc.)?

    Also, would you recommend sticking with AHCI for the hdd (500gb samsung), or switch to IDE?

    Thanks.
     
  3. tommytomatoe

    tommytomatoe Notebook Evangelist

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    I normally install LAN drivers first, then chipset, then graphics. The order isn't all too important though.

    If you still have your CD just install them one at a time going down the list. That works too :)
     
  4. tommytomatoe

    tommytomatoe Notebook Evangelist

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    Quick question regarding RAM configuration on this laptop.

    Say I have 2x8gb ad 2x4gb. Is 8-4-8-4 same as 8-8-4-4?

    Meaning I put two 8gb under the keyboard and two 4gb under the bottom cover vs mixing one 8gb and one 4gb in both places.

    Which would yield the best performance, or does it matter on this laptop? Thanks
     
  5. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    theoretically it shouldnt matter but practically its recommended to always pair up equal ram modules for the best dual channel config, thus id put them in 8-8-4-4 :)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  6. tommytomatoe

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    Thanks for the response!

    Some desktop mobos have the channels set up with Channel 1 (slot 0 and slot 2) and Channel 2 (slot 1 and slot 3). Just wanted to be sure so I can maximize my dual channel capabilities :)

    Thanks!

    Edit. I guess my real question was how the channels were set up on the mobo on Clevo.

    Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
     
  7. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    haha ok. yeah answer would be same tho, always go pairwise with the slots under the keyboard OR under the cover bay.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  8. gh130

    gh130 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Is Lenovo W510 15.6" LED LCD AU Optronics B156HW01 V.4 compatible with 8150? does it have the same connector ?
     
  9. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

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    I am wondering if it's possible to install the 680M in a P150HM which previously had a 6990M installed.

    Thanks in advance!
     
  10. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    with the p150hm it doesnt matter,the 680m should work in every case :) just make sure to use a driver with a properly modded .inf!

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  11. Tonrac

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    Unlike P170HM, P150HM has only one version that accept both nvidia and amd GPU.
    GTX680M work well on P150HM with original vbios at 853/2450Mhz
    P150HM and GTX680M : yes we can

    But unlike P150EM, msi modded vbios like saltius or svl7 are quite unstable with P150HM/GTX680M combo. (Randomly the card could't take his 3d clock).
     
  12. jaug1337

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    Ask svl7 to mod it into or just mod you a Clevo BIOS, shouldn't take long

    the P150HM has different mobo limitations which makes the 680M react differently
     
  13. andrebrait

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    So, in the end using the HD7970M and GTX680/660M in the P150HM IS possible, after all?
     
  14. Tonrac

    Tonrac Notebook Evangelist

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    @jaug1337: I ask svl7 if he could ...
    I will mod the bios myself if i know how to do that.

    @andrebrait: 7970M are compatible with a modded bios that diable enduro.
    Gtx680m are plug and play
    FOR gtx660m i don't know
     
  15. Mathamattix

    Mathamattix Newbie

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    I don't know if this is the place to ask this, but I'm at a loss here. I'm having the worst experience with the Sager NP8150's webcam. While using skype, I constantly go black and white on the webcam (or nearly black and white) after just a second or so of video. It does start with some color, and this is visible with my yellowish walls and the color of my shirt, but quickly changes. If I place my finger over the camera (blackening out the vision) and remove it after a couple of seconds, the video is colored, but only for a second like at the start. It immediately begins to fade back to a black and white-ish picture. I've tried looking for updated drivers, I've tried messing with skype video settings, but to no avail. Can anyone help me please?

    The webcam is a BisonCam NB Pro, my driver version is 6.1.7601.17514 (driver date is 6/21/2006). Using Windows 7, 64 bit.
     
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    What's the best illuminated keyboard for NP8150?
     
  17. tommytomatoe

    tommytomatoe Notebook Evangelist

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    External keyboard? The p150hm does not support backlit keyboard. Unless you want a glow in the dark one with keyboard stickers hehe :)

    Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
     
  18. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    Sager does have drivers up with a 08-Feb-2011 date, try those you can get them here custom gaming laptops - Welcome to Sager Notebooks
     
  19. Mathamattix

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    I see those drivers, and I download and run the file, and even after rebooting the computer, it still shows up as the older drivers when I view the webcam driver info under devices. As well, I tried installing those drivers before, so when I did it this time, it asked me if I wanted to replace all of the files, which I said Yes to All, but nothing seems to have changed. Any thoughts?
     
  20. gpom74

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    Hello,

    I do not know if this belongs in the Sager/Clevo forum or the 8150 owner's lounge. Recently my Sager NP8150 has had this issue where I cannot use it while it is plugged in because it shuts downs after a few minutes. I noticed that the part of the power brick cord that gets inserted in the computer gets burning hot if I try to have the laptop on while it is plugged in.

    Now, I can charge it just fine while it is off and everything stays cool. But as soon as turn it on, the DC input gets very hot and the laptop shuts off (presumably to protect itself), minutes later.

    Can anybody tell me what the problem is?
     
  21. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    That part of my notebook is cool, I think you have a serious problem there, but you must have a warranty right?


    On another note, we have a strange miniPCIe slot on the bottom of the notebook.

    I tried putting a wifi card in there and the notebook wouldn't pass POST.
    I also tried starting the notebook without the card inside, then I put it to sleep and plugged the card in. When I tried to wake it up it wouldn't.
     
  22. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    Sounds like the AC Adapter is going bad. Contact your reseller for a new one.
     
  23. Swiguy

    Swiguy Newbie

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    Hello all, I'm having some issues with my P150HM w/6990m. I've always used BIOS version 1.01.12 and EC version 1.00.11 and today I decided to try out BIOS 1.01.14 and EC 1.00.13 due to the fan control improvements I've read about.

    Anyhow, the updates went perfectly fine, laptop boots up properly etc... however, there is now a problem with a cold boot. I have to disconnect the battery and reseat my RAM in order to get the laptop to boot cold (otherwise stays stuck at a black screen, no POST). Any thoughts as to why this is happening? Is this a known issue with these updates?

    Thanks!
     
  24. tommytomatoe

    tommytomatoe Notebook Evangelist

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    My first guess is to ensure your ram is seated properly each time and that it isn't moving in the seat. Perhaps it shifts slightly preventing the laptop to post. Otherwise I would recommend going back to original BIOS and test it out and see if issues continue.

    Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
     
  25. Swiguy

    Swiguy Newbie

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    Thanks for the response, it must be something to do with the BIOS version since the older versions don't present this issue. Maybe I'll try one of the modded BIOSes available for the P150HM...
     
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    How much memory do you have, and what's the frequency?
     
  27. Swiguy

    Swiguy Newbie

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    I'm using 8GB of Mushkin Essentials RAM @ DDR3-1333. I've been debating upgrading to some Corsair Vengeance DDR1600 ram..
     
  28. tommytomatoe

    tommytomatoe Notebook Evangelist

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    Unless you use an igpu (which you don't) the upgrade will essentially show zero improvement to you. It's not worth it but if you have cash laying around who's to stop you :)

    Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
     
  29. Swiguy

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    I realize that, I was thinking more in terms with resolving the cold boot problem when I use BIOS/EC version 14. It's around $40 for the change, might be worth a shot.
     
  30. tommytomatoe

    tommytomatoe Notebook Evangelist

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    Oh haha. Yeah it might be worth the try :)

    Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
     
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    Hey, W870 owner here.

    Any of you guys upgrading to the 7970 or 680 and looking to get rid of your 6990?

    I'm from the UK, and looking for a cheaper way to upgrade than buying from Eurocom and paying £70 shipping and an extra 20% VAT.

    So if you're looking to get rid of your old 6990, get in touch by PM or reply to my post. Cheers.
     
  32. jaug1337

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    Noticed you've posted this several places.

    Maybe you should consider posting it on our marketplace? Computer Components
     
  33. eeikcud

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    I've actually have a 6990M dusting away if you like to buy it off me. Problem is I'm from Australia.
     
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    Oh it's only with the P170HM then? Ty :)
     
  35. roliath

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    I decided to upgrade from 8gb to 16gb on my newly purchased 8150 (thanks rmmrolf). So I contacted Sager and they told me this laptop only supports 16gb, and I read the faq and it says the same that the max is 6gb.

    Well I bought the ram to at least upgrade to 16gb from 8gb. I installed the new kit under the keyboard. Once that was done I booted up and saw no errors, good...

    For curiosity's sake I installed the 2x8gb in the slots near the gpu/cpu and booted back up. Low and behold, windows sees all 24gb! (see attached) But man I was shocked! So how is this possible?

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    Also did I hit the cap on the controller?
    [​IMG]
     
  36. tommytomatoe

    tommytomatoe Notebook Evangelist

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    You'll be in dual channel up to 16gb. Anything beyond it will be in single channel.

    Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2
     
  37. roliath

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    Thanks for your reply, but as you can see CPU-Z shows it as running in Dual channel is it being reported wrong?
     
  38. tommytomatoe

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    It will be in dual channel until it surpasses the 16gb ram usage, where in use the remaining ram is in single channel. This is what I was informed from an Intel employee.

    The program will report dual channel for the amount of ram you have so long as it is physically in dual channel, ie two sticks. This is my guess. I don't know how CPU-z does its data collection.



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  39. roliath

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    Interesting, can anyone else confirm this?
    I wish there was a way to confirm this easily, I can load a ram drive of 20gb or so to see but not sure how I would test this.
     
  40. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I think if you had 4 sticks of 8gb ram, then you could have it in dual channel up to 32gb.

    But your problem is that you have mixed 8gb sticks and 4gb sticks.

    I think intel calls that setup dual channel asymmetric, here is a good pic:
    05.png

    So it can do 4gb x4 in dual channel (16gb), and the remaining ram will be single channel.

    So why not buy 2 more 8gb sticks and fix that if you really want to.
     
  41. roliath

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    I could, but by all intents and purposes as long as the dimms are the same size and used in pairs dual channel should remain active.
    I can load up all the ram now, I just wish there was a way to confirm memory allocation past 16gb is single channel. Basically in all my years, i've never heard of that limitation before. I guess I could test bandwidth between 16gb and 24gb and 32gb (if I purchase the other 16gb kit).
    [​IMG]
     
  42. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I've updated my other post, basically if you want to know more, take a look at some intel docs about asymmetric dual channel.
     
  43. roliath

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    Thanks for that bit of info, i'll read up on it more.
    I'll pick up another 16gb kit to when I get back in town ( I leave tomorrow morning ) next week.
     
  44. tommytomatoe

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    The problem is the memory controller in the 2630qm/2670qm supports up to 16gb in dual channel. So anything above that will not be optimized.

    Run benchmarks before and after you plug in more ram to see. I'll dig through the Intel docs to confirm. I asked the same question as well and this is what Intel told me.

    Edit. So with due research I found that the 2630/2670qm will indeed use up to 32gb, however that amount is not officially reported/supported. For stability reasons it is set at 16gb max memory. You will have to stress CPU with synthetic benchmarks to see how it performs with 16gb ram vs 24-32gb. The information given to me by the Intel employee wasn't incorrect. He was just telling me the official reported specs. However, systems often can and do run at higher performance than rated.

    So run some CPU benchmarks to see if >16gb negatively affects the performance.

    Also, i don't know how Windows handles memory. In Linux after awhile the memory gets used as cache space. With my 24gb setup I often have 1-3gb free after computing all day. However, under Windows I've had two freezes since installing 24gb ram, where prior I never had a system freeze. I ran memtest and ram is fine. Not sure if related. I don't boot into Windows often enough to investigate further.

    Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2
     
  45. bennyg

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    I remember back in the day (like, prescott days) there was a test of single vs asymmetric dual vs symmetric dual channel that showed asym DC was about halfway between single and sym DC in performance terms. I would think things may have changed since then though...

    I've never had a problem with the 4x4gb KVR1333 in my p150hm. Have often found that matching sticks is associated with less problems; but also have had some mismatched setups (1+2gb in a C2D lappy) go for years with no issues at all.

    Whether you know you *need* 24gb is another question, most users would never get near 16gb as I certainly haven't, only over 8gb on a few occasions and a pagefile would have fixed that
     
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    I have a problem with my new killer 1103. On my Windows 7 After installing the drivers I couldn't get any wifi signals. Even though, the card appear in device manager and working properly . I have tried to uninstall and install the drivers again but with with no luck . Then I booted to windows 8 and the card worked flawlessly even before installing the driver.
    Can anyone help me please ?
     
  47. jaug1337

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    Uninstall the drivers, and it should work.

    Then try installing a elder driver as the newer ones always are a little weird.
     
  48. gh130

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    Thanks I really appreciate your input .
    I think the problem with windows 7. Because even my old USB wifi card does not work under windows 7 anymore. So I will try to fix it .
     
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    Is it possible to buy MSI's backlit keyboard to be installed in the HM Mobo? I kinda really want to do it but unsure if it would work or not =[. My stickers tend to be a tad annoying for m -.-
     
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    im afraid no, the dimensions wouldnt fit (backlit keyboard is a bit larger in height as far as i know). also, the HM mobo doesn´t provide the necessary connection to power the LEDs....

    cheers
     
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