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775 is heat pipe only I was just curious about cambermans machine. But if you havent def do the paperclip mod.

 

I do have the dual vapor chamber and single GTX1080 so the video runs very cool. My biggest worry when considering the 775 was heat which is why I went with the P870 instead. I'm sure with proper care and mods like the paperclip you can probably get the 775 to run quite cool.

 

My original budget around 3K.
After the configuration it exceed 5K, un-click here and there still over 4K.
Finally get to around 3K.
Main Spec:

17.3" 3K QHD (2560x1440) AUO 120Hz - 5ms - LED Matte Type Displa
8700K/Delidd/Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut + Gelid GC Extreme
16GB (2 x 8GB) G.SKILL Ripjaws Series Dual Channel DDR4/2800MHz
Samsung 960 EVO 250GB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe
2TB 5400 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 7mm Hard Drive
Killer™ Wireless-AC N1535 802.11 ac/a/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 4.1
Genuine Windows® 10 Pro

Just need to decide go with GTX 1070 of Gtx 1080 will add another $300 - $700 dollar.

How is the temp on nornal use I like to place my laptop on may lap.

 

On the desktop the laptop will be fine on your lap, just don't game with it on there.

 

I'm currently in a similar situation as some of the people in this thread. I'm trying to decide between the P870TM and the P775TM1. Along with the chassis, I will be running a GTX 1070 and I will buy an i7-8700 (non-k).

Will the P775TM1 be enough to keep the laptop temperature cool? I noticed that there were many complaints about keeping the 1080 cool, but I'm curious to know about how the 1070 performs inside the P775.

Btw, the reason I'll be buying the non-k version of the 8700 is to make sure it stays cool (I don't plan on overclocking anyway and I will be disabling turbo boost if I'm uncomfortable with the temps since I've heard that usually decreases it by about 20C).

 

My question to you would be, why are you wanting to put a 4 cylinder into a Ferarri? The 775 and 870 are HIGH-performance laptops. If you are willing to settle for less performance, why not just choose MSI or Alienware instead of a laptop that runs desktop-class components?

 

Wut

 

It's to avoid heating issues and ensure longevity. It's not like putting a 4 cylinder in a Ferrari. It's more like driving the Ferrari at or under the speed limit to not stress out the components to ensure the engine, transmission, etc. will last longer. An i7-8700 with turbo boost disabled should still outperform an i7-7700HQ (or the upcoming i7-8850H I believe).

 

That's an excellent choice. I did this and it works really well. Clevo gives the K too high of a TDP, and the 1070 is very comfortable with the cooling solution.

The 8400 will outperform a 7700k, 8700 is just more. And yeah, it is ludicrous to call the 8700 a 4cyl. An i3 would be that. Even the 8400 would be a good pick, 8700T would be best

 

Really? heres firestrike between clevos slim model and the 775. 8700/1070 and 7700HQ/1070
Not only destroying it but temps and fans are wonderfully in check now. Its not like Blue wants a 1060. If I had mine configured with 8700K/1080 the fan noise alone during use would probably make it so I wasnt allowed to bring it into work anymore lol not only that but I can use it on my lap. Hes not settling at all. Dont try pushing people to BGABoys camp just because they dont want to un-necessarily max everything in the configurator because I can assure you our 32GB of ram arent needed either

 

Perhaps I exaggerated a bit but my point was that if you are going to detune a system to the point where the performance is near-equal to a less-expensive alternative then it's not worth spending the extra cash for something you aren't using.

 

That's... not really what is going on.

 

ok

 

-and- it still destroys the 7700K its not de-tuning...the laptops are not designed to only be sold with 1080 and 8700k if not thats what they would be locked into...by paying the small entry cost above those "less expensive alternatives" your not locking yourself into $1000+ mobo repairs (rip my P670), upgrade ability of CPU, and thusly failsafe if anything happens.... MXM which allows us to upgrade to something in the future or exchange bad gpus easily, better thermal solutions, and a GPU which can clock higher and sustain itself at boost clocks higher than that of the stock desktop variant and the thinner clevos and also mobile series cpus are horridly slow "compared" to 1151 chips.

Not only that but if someone breaks into your house you have something to use against them (power brick)

The P775 and P870 are in their own right best in what they do... you can get a AW R4 with a 7820HQ configured worse for more than the cost of these... I looked I was going to get a AW 13 with OLED for $1900 configured how I wanted it and MSIs chunky monkey offerings are somewhat subpar in my opinion.

These are still laptops, if its your only computer and stationary forever sure...go balls to the wall though but if OCing etc is end game...you buy a watercooled ITX or actual desktop.

Its all good though.

 

Can somebody give a link on how to re-paste and do a Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut + Gelid GC Extreme on CPU and GPU. I like to try on my two old laptop see how well they perform.

 

This is as pretty nice guide for BGA CPU's, but you do the exact same process for LM on the GPU since it's already exposed.
Just do what he says, but pretend that's a GPU instead of a CPU



For CPU's you should look up some youtube stuff on how to delid. It's highly recommended for LGA CPUs that you buy a delid kit like the rockit 88 (or whatever it's called) or the de8aur kit (can't spell it) and I think there's another kit available too, and don't use a razor or vise.

He doesnt use a foam dam, but I recommend a foam dam cut out in the shape of the CPU or GPU. (square for GPU's and for LGA CPU's if using liquid metal between IHS and heatsink, and rectangular type shape for BGA CPUs.

Here's an example of foam dams. Foam dams are used to 'trap' LM and prevent it from leaking anywhere onto the motherboard or PCB. It is NOT used as substitute for nail polish or Super 33+ tape or kapton tape! Nail polish is a substitute for Super 33+ tape if you choose that route. Foam dams are insurance for a LM ball getting out after a hard bump.




If you are delidding, use 3 coats of transparent nail polish on the LGA CPU's SMD resistors because liquid metal can short stuff out, or corrode the solder of the SMD parts and make them come off. This has happened to people on the delid forum group on overclock.net, who didn't use nail polish.

Here are foam dams for LGA CPU and GPU, when LM is used between heatsink and IHS (make sure heatsink is copper and NOT ALUMINUM!!!)

 

Thank you, I will check out the video and thanks for great advise.
Btw I just order the P870TM1 with 8700K and GTX 1080 from HIDevolution.
Ted from sale dept. was very helpful during process and here are some spec he had show me may helpful for comparsion

P775TM1
HID Delided 8700K @ 4.8, GTX 1070 8G, 16GB 2666, LM on CPU+ TIM on GPU+FP Pads GPU Idle Temp after 15 min warm up (C) - 36c
GPU Max Temp during AIDA64 stress test (C) - 73c
CPU Idle Temp after 15 min warm up (C) 41c
CPU Max Temp during AIDA64 stress test (C) 92c

P775TM1
HID Delided 8700K @ 4.8, GTX 1080 8G, 16GB 2666, LM on CPU+ TIM on GPU+FP Pads GPU Idle Temp after 15 min warm up (C) - 45c
GPU Max Temp during AIDA64 stress test (C) - 91c
CPU Idle Temp after 15 min warm up (C) 52c
CPU Max Temp during AIDA64 stress test (C) 87c

P870TM1
HID Delided 8700K @ 4.8, GTX 1080 8G, 16GB 2666, LM on CPU+ TIM on GPU+FP Pads GPU Idle Temp after 15 min warm up (C) - 39c
GPU Max Temp during AIDA64 stress test (C) - 73c
CPU Idle Temp after 15 min warm up (C) 41c
CPU Max Temp during AIDA64 stress test (C) 81c

You can expect ~5C drop in GPU temperatures with the dual GPU heat sink.

 

Are they available somewhere the technical specification of the motherboard or generally p775tm and p775dm2/3? I found for DM1 model but nowhere for higher models. I would like to check bolt spacing to be sure that the diligence between CPU and GPU screws are the same, to fit DM2/3 heatsink in to TM model.

 

Ok. Anyone have timings table put together to get 3200mhz memory working? I can confirm the xmp profile does not work.

 

Messed around a lot ended up on top in FS and Timespy~ Which places score at #10 in the lot with the 8700K scores (without the heat) but without prema this is furthest it can go

 

I found that heatsink (heatpipes) desing from this picture http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/tapatalk_1473864649260-jpeg.138541/
it's completely different from what you can buy on eBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/new-for-Cl...676641?hash=item3d54db8121:g:eNQAAOSw~vpaTFqV

There were two versions of heatsins to DM2/3?
Version from ebay has one thinner heatpipe that runs through the entire length of the cooling system.

Are heatisnks can be bought only from a Chinese supplier or there are any European sources?

 

I can confirm XMP is trash. XMP1 and 2 lead to crashes.

 

How i can flash new stock bios 1.0.5.10, if there are no option to boot in Legacy/CMS mode for boot into DOS from USB?

 

I couldn't get it to work at all. Ended up returning the ram.

There's a new bios? Have a link?

 

Yes: https://www.mysn.de/secure/userarea...15_17QQBIOSQQXMG_ULTRA_15_17_BIOS_1.05.10.zip
But how to flash?

 

I'd assume through the bios, but I won't know until I'm home. I'll let you know then. Is there a change log for this bios? If it's just Spectre upgrades I'll pass.

 

Yes, there are new microcodes for Spectre/Meltdown, and support for Pentium/Celeron. But this is just what is written ...

 

I checked your BIOS files and you don't have to switch to Legacy mode it will boot under UEFI. So just copy all the files to a USB flash drive and boot from it and run the flash.

 

@Zoltan@HIDevolution, hello! Firstly, i'll need to flash a new EC, right? (1.05.03TR1, instead 1.05.03)

 

I don't see the EC file in the folder.

 

@Zoltan@HIDevolution, The EC is in the same place: link

 

EC first and then BIOS.

 

Got it, EC then BIOS is the correct order.

 

Hello falkentyne i have super 33 tape already where can I get those foam dams?

 

I used packing foam from some stuff I bought that I had sitting around. Most of the time you can find this stuff at hardware stores or crafting/hobby stores like Hobby Lobby (?) or Michaels.
Remember the foam has to be VERY VERY light and VERY compressible.

 

Thank you then scotch 33 will suffice to protect the surrounding?

 

Yes, but I use cellulose (sorry I have difficulty spelling this word) based transparent nail polish. The same stuff recommended for desktop delids, to protect the SMD resistors on LGA cpu's. Serves the same purpose. But thermals tend to be slightly better with nail polish, because you aren't putting thicker materials all over the silicon housing.

The foam dam is to act as an emergency barrier to stop LM runoff from escaping the chip area and getting on the PCB. Do not use foam dams in place of tape or nail polish.

 

@Kittys YOU'RE ALIVE! =O

That aside anybody have temp data for a standard 8700K/1080N unit from HIDevolution? I wanna see what a tuned unit from these gets, because I don't actually know.

 

No one tried 1.05.10 bios yet? I temporarily don't have access to my laptop.

 

Hey all. First time; long time. So, the good news is that my shiny, new P775TM1 arrived last Friday. The bad news is that it came with a dead "Z" key. I have no doubt that I can get the issue resolved with HIDevolution; it's just a hassle, and I know this kind of thing comes with the territory.

That being said, how easy is it to swap out the keyboard (assuming that's all that needs to happen)? I've done it on another Clevo laptop before and it was pretty simple. Do you think it would it be possible for HIDevolution to just send me a new keyboard that I can swap out myself? I'd rather not deal with an official RMA and repackage and send back the whole laptop.... Hoping @Zoltan@HIDevolution and @Donald@HIDevolution can add some input.

 

Asking about individual order issues should not be asked here. It is much better to contact us directly so as not to Hijack this thread

If you should ever need tech support or warranty service, please understand that I am not a technician, so it would be better to contact our Tech Support Team by phone at 888-666-3418 Extension 3, between 9:00 AM and 5:00 PM Pacific Time, Monday through Friday, by email at [email protected], or by Online Support Ticket at http://www.hidevolution.com/contacts/ (in the department dropdown menu select Zoltan S - Tech Support).

Please let me know if they don’t resolve your issue.

 

Oh, sorry. The original intent of my post was to get others' experiences with keyboard swapping, and basically if companies allowed for simple keyboard swaps as opposed to full RMA processes. I did e-mail support on Friday. Thanks!

 

No worries...please see the PM I sent you.

 

I need the Part number for the 4K eDP for the P775TM1-g trying to confirm compatibility with P870DMx 4K Cable if anyone has it... is the 6-43-P7751-020-1L from DM3 still carried over?

 

Both use the same B173ZAN01.0 - 4K screen.

I cannot confirm the same cable is used...but it probably is.

 

I believe the cable is carried over.

 

Looking to pull the trigger on this from HIDevolution. Been eyeing this model ever since buyers remorse happened. Hopefully thermals are good and there's no throttling as I'm having that issue on my P670RG. Just looking for a laptop to replace my PC when I'm at university for games and rendering of 3D models and compliling game exes. My current PC is running a 1080 and 1440p G-Sync monitor, don't want to downgrade

 

The full on desktop replacements are there for that, they are just a bit more cumbersome to go between classes. You will certainly stand out with it though.

 

Haha, there's no problem with standing out in class. just don't want to have the same thing happen when I got the P670RG to save money when I should've gotten the P775TM1-G back then. I'll sort thing out with Donald, he's been very helpful!

 

With the old p570wm I had a few funny looks on the train ^_^