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    *** Official Sager NP9175 / Clevo P775TM Owner's Lounge! ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Oct 6, 2017.

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    Interesting it says on the Microsoft store.
     
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    Seems others have similar answers “Microsoft Store... https://superuser.com/questions/1331455/cannot-see-cpu-temperature-on-intel-extreme-tuning-utility
     
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    Seems like you're having sort of the same issues I have. When running any stress test app the cores all downclock to 4GHz even though it's set to 4.7GHz. As soon as I stop the test they go back up to 4.7GHz. Though my P775TM1-G is still sitting on my table KIA, as I've not been able to source a box to ship it back to HIDevolution.
     
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    This is why you don't throw out the original box it came in. :D
     
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    Wasn't me that threw it out. I brought the laptop to the UK with me for university. Before i left, i told my helper to keep the box and that my father would bring it up for me when he visits along with other things i couldnt bring with me. I ran out of space in my luggage and couldn't bring the box. My older brother told my helper to throw the box away (when he came over to the house to help me organize the things my dad was going to bring) figuring i didnt need it anymore. Me needing the box some how got lost in communication. So here i am stuck in this situation. I do have a box from my P670RG with me (as my dad brought up my old laptop with the box that im going to use) but i need an outer box and that's the one that impossible to find. I find it really hard that it's impossible to find a box here in the city where i live.
     
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    Couldn't install it, says, it's an unsupported platform. Welp, after I got on 1803, I still have a lot of questions...
     
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    Finally received my p775 from Evoc today (with the I7 8086K) and I am completely blown away.
    Despite my fears, the banding on the 4k display is practically non existent. Can't see it at all on movies (even dark scenes), and on a banding test I cant see it unless i'm in a dark room and look really hard. Its no worse than my p170 laptop and better than my microsoft surface pro 4. Thoroughly recommended.
    See images.

    P775 4k g-sync monitor
    [​IMG]

    Microsoft surface pro 4
    [​IMG]

    Sager P170sm-a
    [​IMG]

    I can only assume there may have been a bad batch of displays.

    I tried some intense video rendering using virtualdub. Although It only uses 2 cores its has some important functions not found on mainstream video software. On my old Sager P170sm-a with an I7-4900MQ overclocked to 4GHz I got 8 fps and temperatures were around 90-95 Degrees.
    On my Evoc p775 the same rendering went up to 12 fps overclocked to 4.9 GHz and never exceeded 75 degrees!
    I also tried screen capturing using OBS studio and capture was free from any jittering.
    Buying from EVOC cost a little more but for the huge performance boost given by their delidding, repasting and Prema bios it was was worth every penny.
    I feel better letting the professionals do it as if I were to make any mistakes with spilling thermal metal on the cpu or breaking the cpu while delidding it would be a very expensive mistake.
    The intel xtu software works well as well.
    I give this laptop 11 out of 10 !

    Edit. It keeps getting better. Just found a setting in the nvidia display to choose custom resolutions. This is the first laptop I have ever had that allows me to run the display at 50Hz.
    As most of my material is in the PAL standard I am watching super smooth video!
     
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    Hope your system runs well and what happened to me doesn't happen to you.
     
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    Here are benchmarks of our Sky X7C model as per specs listed below: [link to own site removed by moderator - read forum rules]
    Sky X7C
    17.3in UHD 60Hz
    i7-8086K Delided with RockIT Copper IHS (5.3Ghz)
    32GB (2x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Corsair
    1TB M.2 Samsung 960 Pro
    Bios: 05.10 UL
    EC: 05.03
    Vbios: 86.04.80.00.24
    Windows 10 Pro 1803
    Nvidia drivers 389.27
     

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    OK, let me spell it out then (was hoping you realize it yourself without making it too obvious for everyone else):

    Those 6 core '5.3Ghz' benches above are not holding those clocks at all if even an old 4 core can already beat/match them with only 4.9/5Ghz:

    SkyDiver 6700K @ 4.9Ghz: https://www.3dmark.com/sd/4402881

    TimeSpy 7700K 5Ghz: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/1956820

    FireStrike 7700K @ 4.9Ghz: https://www.3dmark.com/fs/11124955


    For comparison, this is an 8700K 6 core at only 5Ghz:

    SkyDiver: https://www.3dmark.com/sd/4929492

    TimeSpy (on a 2015 system): https://www.3dmark.com/spy/3766000

    FireStrike: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/14517851

    This is how a 6 core (8700K) result looks when running and actually holding 5.3Ghz:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Does anyone know how to get into the bios after installing windows. It worked before installation. I tried f2,f7,f12,del. nothing works. just boots into windows.
    Thanks.
     
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    Turn off Fast Startup in the Windows power options, or hold Shift while clicking restart, and spam F2 when it starts up.
     
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    @Eurocom Support
    The physics score for 3DM Fire Stike is well below what you should expect from an stock clocked 8700K/8086K. Aka more like 4.2GHz all cores.
     
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    Testing would be required to ensure it all works of course.
     
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    Got my shipment ready, waiting for DHL to come pick it up. Hopefully it wont take long to get my system back from HID. I'll update you guys on what actually happened.
     
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    I'm actually thinking of getting my panel changed out when it's in service. I really can't stand the banding that is on 1440p screen and the scaling. G-Sync is also an importance for me and I also can't stand IPS glow. Does anyone know what panels are supported and G-Sync works?
    @Donald@HIDevolution
     
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    The available panels with G-Sync are offered on our Customizer. Notebookreview forum rules prohibit me from linking to our website.
     
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    Do you know the exact model number of the 144hz one?
     
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    AUO B173HAN03.1
     
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    Anyone have opinions on the panels?
     
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    The 1080p 144Hz sounds like the one. It has better viewing angles, colors, and response times than what you have now, and is easier for the GPU to drive. :vbthumbsup:
     
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    The one i have now is TN 5ms 120hz, the other is IPS 9ms 144hz. Im more against the glow that IPS panels have and slower response times.
     
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    The one you have now is 15ms. ;)

    Compare to the 144Hz AHVA which is 9ms.
     
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    I thought 5ms by Panelook no? I have the same screen as his.

    http://www.panelook.com/B173QTN01.0_AUO_17.3_LCM_overview_30300.html

    Afraid he can't get it both ways. The 1080p 144hz IPS seems like a nice option if he hates banding so much, or he can opt for the 1440p 120Hz B173QTN01.4 at the sacrifice of G-sync. Or he can say screw it, sell his kidney and snag one of those overpriced Acer/Asus 4k 144Hz G-sync HDR monitors :D

    Btw @m4gg0t the no Wifi after sleep problem is killing me lol. New drivers after new drivers and still the same.
     
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    Panelook is probably listing the faster b2w average, which is indeed 5ms, but g2g is 15ms as measured by NotebookCheck.

    Edit: Looks like there is some variation between panels. The same panel in the Eurocom Q8 is 11ms g2g: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Euroc...0-QHD-Laptop-Review.313514.0.html#toc-display
     
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    Well... after using G-Sync for so long, I notice all the tearing without. So it is kinda a requirement at this point. I really can't stand the banding on the QHD panel, I see it on everything. So i guess it is the 1080p panel then. It seems to be the fastest, but its kinda sad that to run 1080p on a GTX1080. Any opinions on the ISP glow?
     
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    Still WiFi issues after this long?
     
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    High refresh rate with lots of AA can push it still but you also need a fast CPU.
     
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    Even at 1080p, a GTX 1080 will struggle to hit the refresh rate in AAA games like Witcher 3.
     
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    I think it's a BIOS issue, because our laptop don't show the 1550 supported on Clevo's website/official specs

    I don't play witcher much so it doesn't matter.

    So i guess its the IPS screen. DHL just came to pick up my laptop so shouldn't be long now.
     
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    Since your machine has RMA might as well ask HIDEvolution to look into that? Interesting to see what they'd find with both that issue and the Ngreedia drivers killing your GPU.
     
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    Yea i will.
    @Donald@HIDevolution
     
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    Goes for other recent AAA games too, that was just an example.
     
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    Well once my laptop comes back to me, im going to be playing Wolfenstein, Hell Blade, BFV, Tomb Raider and a few more i can't remember. So hopefully it goes well.
     
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    Please work with our Tech Support Team. I cannot help, I am not a technician and do not handle Tech Support issues.
     
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    It also seem like the IPS panel has a lower brightness @yrekabakery
     
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    It does, but black level is significantly lower than your TN panel, so it has higher contrast.
     
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    That would be a little annoying in games don't you think?
     
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    Its only negative in competitive play. Where grays and blacks can be seen trough to hit enemies (through smoke for example).

    Higher contrast makes atmospheric games (Tomb Raider, Hellblade, Bio-shock, etc) look better.
     
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    If anything, higher contrast is an advantage.
     
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    I'm all for getting games to look better, but as a competitive player at times I also need to be able to see things clearly. I'm using my P670RG now as I wait patiently for the service of P775TM1-G, it has the LG IPS panel and things are too dark. I have to turn the brightness in BF1 to about 80% to be able to see and WoW also. Then it looks too washed out. Same thing with BFV Alpha and I'm going to be playing that a lot when it's out. Just want to make sure I have full knowledge of things so when i get it back I'm a happy camper. Fingers crossed.
     
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    Higher contrast will make it easier to distinguish even if max brightness is a little lower. Don't use in-game brightness settings. Those control gamma, not brightness, so turning them up washes out the image.
     
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    Then how do you turn up brightness?
     
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    Max out the brightness of your panel using the hotkeys or Windows.

    Note a calibrated ICC profile will also lower max brightness.
     
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    A TN panel is going to ghost less and react faster which is important for competitive play.
     
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