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No one can know for sure until they are released.

However, it is highly unlikely that the 1160 will have similar performance to the 1070, and virtually no chance that it will be close to the performance of the 1080.

There is no current basis to believe the heat generated by next gen NVIDIA GPU’s will be greater than the current gen.

 

So you think Nvidia is in cruise mode with this upcoming generation then? Historically it has been on a real generation 60 matches old 70 (or better in some cases)

 

Unfortunately, it is difficult to predict the future based on history. Pascal broke that mold when the 1060 outperformed the 980M.

At this point, it is only speculation, which is the point I was trying to make.

 

The pricing and power consumption was very odd last move. The 1060 in price/power took over the role of the 970m.

 

But in my case 1060 proved to be hotter than OC Prema 980m. On P775DM1 980m was quieter.

 

well heres to hoping that the new GPUs wont require different sizes and only a change of heatsink. Even then going by the price of current gen, its still way more expensive then a desktop card.

 

Any news on your RMA machine mate?

 

You'd have to compare like for like game performance and wall power consumption (the core is a little more dense) to get an idea.

A model designed for it might have a different fan curve.

 

Nothing from my last updated.

 

Update: HIDevolution has gotten back my system from Clevo(i presume), they are doing testing to see if everything works fine.

 

Another update: the Wi-Fi issues with the Killer 1550 from what i understand from HIDevolution, was due to BIOS. An updated BIOS has solved the problem from what I've been told. It seems my system is going well and working.


Now I'm just trying to figure out why my CPU died in the first place, I did nothing that would kill it. Could it be faulty PSU?

 

Without looking at the board it would be hard to say.

 

The only only thing that died was the CPU, they didn't change the motherboard.

 

@m4gg0t, you have a wifi issue with PremaBIOS?

 

Not something I've heard of or experienced.

 

@Donald@HIDevolution Do I need to contact Tech Support to get this BIOS Update Donald? Having same Wifi problem as him.

 

What WiFi problem would that be?

 

No Wifi after wake from sleep. Only a full restart will restore Wifi. No manners of driver update or Power management settings can fix it.

 

You would contact support for a BIOS yes.

 

I would try to, but I'm also not sure. What I've been told it was a BIOS issue.

 

No WiFi on wake after the system has been to sleep, only a full shutdown and turn on would WiFi return.

 

i think its an issue with the airport driver. its also completely random as sometimes i can wake it from sleep and wifi will be working. i'm having it happen to me as well. it didn't start until after the winblows spring downgrade (update).

 

When having any issues, contacting Tech Support is usually the best option...and it is easy.

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@Prema I should have a P775TM-G arriving on Tuesday, I was wondering what the process would be in requesting premamod for it? Please let me know and thank you for all you do!

 

If you didn't get PremaMod from your vendor, you won't be getting it from Prema.

 

Hello guys,
I have a problem with my clevo GPU, can someone send me a VBIOS backup?
Model P775TM1 with GTX1080 the program for backup is this:
nVFlash
nvflash -b backup.rom

Thanks to those who will help me

 

Guys,
I renew my request ...
thank you!

 

https://www.sendspace.com/file/qw3evj

 

Thank you so much!

 

That's a shame. I wish there was some sort of monthly / lifetime subscription for folks who didn't go through a vendor to have access to this great bios. I had to go with Xotic due to their lower prices but seeing as they don't have prema mod on their pcs (for whatever reason) it looks like I'm at a dead end. Oh well, I guess I'll look for a different third party bios to install on my laptop instead.

 

There's a reason why Prema went this way, as people were using/giving out his BIOS without consent. IMO, the benefits of paying a little extra for the BIOS and support outway the difference in the cost. I've had nothing but good customer support from HID as well have many others on this forums. Tis a shame that my CPU died after a months time, but HID has done their best to sort it out aswell as my other issues encounted. I've never experience this kind of support from any other vendor. So HID has my full support.

 

Eurocom sell a custom BIOS, no idea how it compares to Prema's but it might cover what you need?

 

That's awesome. I'm glad you are happy and your decision makes perfect sense. I wanted to go with HID as well, but seeing as the rig I went with was $600 cheaper at Xotic PC (they charge a lot less on their graphics cards), I couldn't make a comfortable decision going with them this time around, prema mod installed or not. If the price gap was a little bit smaller it would definitely be a no brainier though, that or if prema had some type of shop where we could support him directly. I'd definitely be more than willing to pay him appropriately for the work he's done. If it needs to be through a vendor though then so be and I totally respect his choice with it! For right now It was just outside of my budget for my needs, but next time perhaps.

Side note: I haven't had a CPU issue *knock on wood* with my previous Sager from Xotic and my overall experience with them has been positive, aside from the less hands-on customer support as with HID (admittedly I've been impressed with their team's knowledge and helpfulness, so I may just consider them in the future)

That's good to know, do you know if they sell to people who haven't bought computers from them? I would love to look into it

Edit: Talked with the Eurocom rep and can confirm that they said it's possible. Probably won't flash a new BIOS right away but it's good to have the option. I might keep the original stock on it for a bit until I get tired of it, may actually have some more features since it's been 4 years since my old sager laptop XD

 

I'm almost 90% positive Xotic PC is a Prema Partner. At the very least they offer it on the Clevo Flagship
@Justin@XoticPC might be able to clarify what if any other models qualify?

 

ZOOM IN... https://premamod.com/partner/

 

Neither does anyone else really. Details have never been forthcoming whether Eurocom's is just a BIOS where someone's gone through with the tool and unhidden menus and options... or whether it delves into firmware code to remove throttling such as platform power limits and overrides on 'unlocked' BIOS settings

It's not as simple as 'everyone should share every detail' since Prema has been ripped off in the past (AFAIU including by Eurocom) and understandably is not as open to sharing his work as he once was. But at least he discloses some details and many users on NBR have verified what he says.

Unlike Eurocom and its resellers.

 

Amazing catch there!!! I had no idea that this was an option for that laptop. It seems like for some reason only a small portion of their laptops have Prema Mod options. I wish I knew that before. Pretty strange seeing as the same laptop (the one I bought) can have prema mod installed onto it via HID but not XOTIC. I assume they're competing in terms of what can be made an option where.

Ugh... One of the reasons why I hate customer support from them sometimes, Landon (their sales rep I talked to) gave me the generic "If it's not there it's not available" response. I think for the future, they should work on their delivery with something along the lines of "Hey, that specific laptop doesn't have it, but let me find you a list of laptops that do" customer service 101 yanno? But I digress, they probably just didn't know.

Regardless that's good info to know, so far it looks like only their Xotic PC lineup allows prema mod. THANK YOU for taking the time to actually look into this!

Yes if a XOTIC PC rep can clarify all the models that have prema mod as an option that would be great. Looks like only the XOTIC G77 RAVEN allows it.

 

Agree that they shouldn't provide every setting etc. but they offer no info on whether or not it just unlocks the BIOS as you stated or whether this does remove the throttling etc. I will ask them if they can confirm this? I don't see why they wouldn't they aren't exactly giving us the process on how to do it?

 

I have said this in other threads, but will repeat it here.

An 'unlocked' Clevo BIOS is one thing. It just unlocks what the BIOS authors intended to keep hidden.

The Custom @Prema BIOS is quite different. It is a re-written BIOS that provides many new options through additional menus. One of the most important things, among many others, is removing or modifying platform power limits that the original Clevo BIOS uses to restrict performance. This is not available in an 'unlocked' Clevo BIOS.

Read the Thread "PREMA BIOS MOD Review" started by HTWingNut back in June of 2014, with 187 pages so far through June of 2018 - http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/prema-bios-mod-review.667818/

If 187 pages is too much to read, just read through this 40 page thread where Notebookreview members, in appreciation for Prema's unique work and contribution to this community, donated $3,777 toward buying him a Clevo P870DM-G - http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/prema-gift-donations-thread.793580/#post-10290654

A little searching will reveal literally hundreds of posts explaining what else it does, and posts from users who have it, discussing what it has done for them, most of whom wouldn't buy an LGA based laptop without it.

 

I don't doubt Prema's being the best etc. Its just that eurocom offer a custom BIOS, which may help other users who can't get Prema.

The Eurocom 1 might remove these throttling limits, it might not. That was my gripe the fact they do not entail what it does.

Cannot disagree though that Prema's will offer many more options etc

 

Does anyone here have the Eurocom BIOS? It would be nice to be able to compare features between it and the Prema mod to see what customers are exactly expecting to get when they buy a Eurocom BIOS vs Having Prema mod through a trusted vendor.

 

You would have to do a fair amount of digging, they would not be visible on the surface.

 

I asked them whats included, they have responded with the below.

"Yes it will provide you unlocked features to allow you to tune up your system and eliminate throttling"

I suppose it depends how you interpret it, but for me this suggests they are only providing hidden menus and that they believe this will eliminate throttling. From what I've read here the throttling is an embedded setting that needs altered/removed, its not just a case of un-hiding a menu?

 

Correct. Unhidden menus is better than nothing, but it does nothing to correct performance-killing code surreptitiously embedded in a variety of places by notebook manufacturers to limit performance to whatever level they deem to be good enough. This is a painstaking process that requires extensive testing to eradicate.

 

Whats the point with unlocked custom bios if the end results is as this? On top have to pay extra

[email protected] from Eurocom (fully unlocked)

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/15816395

 

I'm not sure what you mean @Papusan sorry? Are you advising that the custom BIOS is not needed as you managed to achieve the above without it?

 

All I say is that the results I posted from the unlocked Eurocom firmware is lackluster. Even worse than from stock clocked. And the tests is done on 5.3GHz

 

So you managed to get 5.3Ghz on stock BIOS? If so I think that should reassure others who don't have Prema.

 

YOU MISSED THE POINT. The Cpu physics score posted above is below what you should get from STOCK clocks. Aka the so called 5.3GHz overclock done by the unlocked bios perform worse than 4.3GHz who is stock clocks on all 6 cores on i7-8700K/i7-8086K. The overclock is Crippled. Not working!!

Edit. Please compare the 3DM FireStrike Physics score vs. shoved from 5.3GHz overclock above.

 

I honestly cannot apologise enough here but I'm lost, no doubt due to me being a tech noob.

I thought the 8086k had turbo speeds of 5Ghz, therefore your post showing it at 5.3Ghz would suggest an improvement.

Feel free to private message me if I'm taking this off topic or out of context