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Unfortunately nowhere. There is no 4TB disks with a thickness of ~9mm

 

ok thanks, I have been stuck with 2tb HHDs for about 4-5 years now, since I had a m18x r2.

 

I thinking about moding my service cover to fit 4TB ~15mm

 

Did you miss this on page 164?

 

yea sorry i did. i only saw the post 10 min later.

 

All the R&D is now on SSDs.

 

there are 4TB SSDs in 2.5" but any HDDs of that volume are 15mm.

 

Yes we had established that. No movement in 2.5 inch tech.

 

Even when i talked into a fry's store, their HDD selection is much smaller now from some years ago.

 

Less players in the market and less demand, a lot of people don't need huge storage with them.

 

hello guys i have a 775tm1 with sounblaster drivers installed just got myself some sennheiser HD 599 what should i set audio to in realtek 5.1 or 7.1
and what settings do you suggest in soundblaster connect for fps games?

 

Set it to headphone as they are 2 channel.

 

Thanks Meaker has anyone made cut out in the back cover of this laptop for better airflow?

 

So the new 9900k is supported and has soldered tim, so maybe it runs better?

 

Wait on updates from resellers about any options.

 

Solder is a couple degrees worse than delidding with liquid metal. Considering my 8600K with its 6 non Hyper-Threaded cores at 4.7GHz (tuned for lowest stable voltage) is already reaching 110W and almost 90C in BF1, I don't see how a 9900K with 8 Hyper-Threaded cores can possibly run in the current generation systems without thermal throttling as it already boosts to 4.7 on all cores out of the box. Maybe only the P870TMx with the second CPU fan utilized can handle it.

 

They are new masks and are binned differently which can help a lot.

 

Mysn.de IS now offering the i7 and i9 9x00 series.

Would love to see a couple of benchmarks. Especially when it comes to heat generation and power throtteling.

 

Bios for CFL-S CPUs already appeared - https://www.mysn.de/driver/1_XMG/XMG_ULTRA 15_17/BIOS/

 

I dont think the price is justified though.

 

Most people are better off with the I7 or I5.

 

Since i've apparently lost the silicon lottery with my 8700K and temps are crazy high at 4.7GHz @1.32v. I've gone down to 4.5GHz but i'm still having high temps, like 90C. I'm currently using adaptive but i'm thinking of switching over to static to see if i can get lower then 1.32v stable. Any advice? In my sig it show 4.7GHz @ 1.20v but that was my old CPU and it has died.

 

The 8086K is a lot better binned or wait to see what options the 9xxx may offer.

 

Does the 8086k get less hot compared to the 8700k, when using them inside the 775TM?

I am really looking forward to see how the 9700k performs. Also read on Notebookcheck that Nvidida 2xxx series will release for laptops sometime during Q1 2019. Not sure if I want to wait for that. It might take till Q2 before proper laptops with the 2xxx series have been released and reviewed.

 

It's better binned so when tweaking you get more out of it.

 

Thanks! So the temperatures are also better when not overclocking?

 

Not without undervolting and of course delidding still helps a lot.

 

Ah, but is undervolting done by e.g. ObsidianPC or Mysn.de or does the consumer need to do this themselves? Cause when so, the 8700k might be a better option when it comes to temperatures?

 

Both will be the same without tweaking when they arrive at your door unless the shop offers a tweaking option.

The 8086k is a tweakers CPU, there is room to get more out of if you adjust it.

 

Try 4.5GHz with 1250mV override (static) voltage and IA AC/DC Loadline set to 1.

 

It is super easy to do. No reason to need someone else to do it.

 

What about guarantee? What happens if you reduce the voltage too much and the laptop doesn't start any longer?

 

Fn+D while pressing the power button to reset BIOS to default.

 

Read the Throttlestop guide. There's a big one on the forums here, but this is a better start. If there's a problem and you get a BSOD the values are returned to the last stable configuration. If I'm not mistaken chances you'll brick your cpu by undervolting are very slim, if not impossible.

For warranty questions you'll have to ask your reseller. As a reseller I wouldn't mind my customer undervolting because it will extend the life of the cpu...

 

You cannot brick a laptop with undervolting. It is impossible to damage components with too little voltage.

In the rare case the bois settings do not revert to default on their own after BSOD. You can use keyboard command on start, or more directly do a hard reset by removing BIOS battery and do a hard reset.

 

Experiment in Windows with Throttlestop, and it won't automatically load the BSOD-inducing undervolt at POST, as it's only a temporary setting.

When you have figured out the settings you want and have made sure they're stable, then you set them in BIOS. (I actually don't bother with BIOS anymore and just have my CPU and GPU overclock profiles auto-loaded at startup with Throttlestop and Afterburner)

 

Is IA AC/DA Loadline safe to use? Do you also undervolt your uncore?

 

Loadline 1 is safe to use. I didn't touch the uncore.

 

it seems like underload 4.5GHz my CPU is only using 1.18v with offset -85mv. When i use static volts 1.25v with loadline 1 i get IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL TO BSOD just using the CPUZ stress test. . Temps are crazy also.

 

With a voltage override of 1250mV and AC Loadline set to 1 (which disables LLC), you're probably putting about 1.1V into the CPU under load, so it's gonna BSOD at 4.5GHz unless the CPU is a good sample (which yours is not). You can see how much vdroop you're getting with DC Loadline at its default setting of 0.

With AC Loadline and DC Loadline both set to 1, this disables both LLC and vdroop reporting. So the VID will be locked at the voltage override, which hides the vdroop that is happening and causes instability unless you increase the voltage override to compensate for the lack of LLC. This is why setting AC/DC Loadline to 1 is not a good idea on Clevos, although @ole!!! might disagree. Setting AC Loadline to 1 is fine on MSIbooks because, as @Falkentyne has mentioned, MSIbooks already have built-in LLC separate from AC Loadline, so setting AC Loadline to 1 simply removes that extra layer of LLC which is overvolting and causing heat issues under load.

Thanks for indulging me on that little experiment. I wanted to confirm my own findings on a different system .

Anyway, try 4.5GHz at 1.25V static again, but with AC/DC Loadline at their defaults, and see if your temps decrease.

 

So I finally got my greedy hands on the P775TM (config in my sig).

After ditching the Clevo control center and installing Obsidian's I've done some minor benching. With a conservative -100mV undervolt and fans 'extreme' I've got some suprising results. I've yet to run real gaming benchmarks. But when running Unigine's Superposition (extreme), Valley, Heaven and 3DMark Firestrike the 8700K never goes above 70°C and the 1080 never goes above 75°C. Terrific temperatures. Throttlestop doesn't give any limit reasons, which is strange because it should hit the power limit of the ECC? (non-Prema bios)

On the other hand, I have the impression that the performance is not what it should be. Firestrike score is 16958 (graphics 19882, physics 16282, combined 8311). 1080 remains stable at 1800+ mhz below 75°C in all tests. I've yet to check performance fluctuations of the cpu.

 

Check if u have g-sync on, in nvndia control panel. If so, turn it off and repeat the benchmark

 

Test with Cinebench - MAXON | 3D FOR THE REAL WORLD
and follow Cpu clockspeed with Hwinfo64.

 

Right. With G-Sync disabled I get 18028, which is a bit better.

Edit: from which sources can you share pics/videos here?

 

I did three consecutive runs of Cinebench. On my first run I got 1182, on the third 1189. At the third run the 8700K never exceeded 3.9 ghz...

 

Use Imgur.

Score is low even for 3.9GHz. Use check Limit Reasons in ThrottleStop when running CineBench and see whether you're power and/or current limit throttling.

 

Running Prime95 and Valley together for 20 minutes. Highest cpu clock is 3,8 Ghz, highest temp is 83°C; 1080 stays mostly at 55°C with a max of 65°C.

Throttlestop only gives limit reasons at startup (PL1 + EDP other). No new limits come up when cleared.

 

Are you using the high performance profile?

You did make sure to fully kill Clevo Control Center, right? Sometimes that can cause both the CPU and GPU to throttle. Better yet, uninstall CCC since you're using Obsidian Tools.

 

Post pictures of ThrottleStop FIVR and TPL settings.

 

CCC is properly removed. I use high performance energy profile.

Undervolt of -100mV (CPU & Cache)



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