*** Official Sager NP9175 / Clevo P775TM Owner's Lounge! ***

Can you link to a vapor chamber for P775TM CPU/GPU or to a better cooling solution?

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

 

None that I know of. GPU vapor chamber is on the P870.

 

This is correct.

 

Unfortunately, under the NVIDIA embargo, we can’t start taking, or shipping, RTX orders until 6 AM Pacific Time on the 29th.

 

Perfect! Thank you for the info. I checked out the website and saw the dates. Looks like I will be back on the 29th!

 

Perfect! Thank you for the info. I checked out the website and saw the dates. looks like I will be back on the 29th!

That's unfortunate, Gsync is definitely a huge deal breaker for me. I am mainly looking for high Hz, low response, and Gsync, so the B173QTN01.0 3k 120Hz 5ms with Gsync looks like my best option.

Does anyone know if there are any differences between the B173QTN01.0 and the B173QTN01.4? Everywhere I look online, they look identical in just about every way.

 

Banding issue on v0, fixed in the v4 panel

 

This panel (B173QTN01.4) will work in P775TM1-G?

 

@Donald@HIDevolution do you guys have these in stock but not allowed to sell it yet or Nvidia is most even shipping parts before 29?
Any info regarding the new cooling ?
I checked a review of the P775TM and they got 90C in Rise of the Tomb Rider which is too high, the card throttles at 88C...if RTX2080 will run at 90C too then there will be a lot of Space Invader cards

 

Bigger Gpu die and crippled TDP vs Pascal graphics should decrease max temp.

 

I would still feel safer if Clevo would add extra heatpipes and new fan which don't have the sound of a jet plane while gaming.

They should take notes from Acer, their Helios 500 cooling is efficient and the fans are barely audible while gaming .

Clevo should have redesigned this chassis for it to have 4 exhaust vents instead of 2, like all major gaming laptops now have...

 

With Obsidian Fan Control is much quieter. I dont know how they did it but they did. It costs but I do not regret any penny spent on it. Original CCC is crap, even in 2.0 version.

 

Different class of machine and heat output.

 

I'm considering "unifying" the heatsinks on my 9900k + 1070 setup. The CPU is running much hotter than the GPU as one might expect, and I'm wondering what might be the best way to go about it.

There is a barrier between the GPU and CPU that otherwise could be used to connect them directlyAnyone have any experience doing this sort of thing? A bent heatsink or 2 around the barrier with some thermal glue would be fine?

 

And Helios 500's cooling deal with equal power consumption? From what I know... It comes with 65w Amd chips and crippled low powerd graphics. Or the opposite setup... Power gimped Intel unlocked BGA junk and Gtx 1070. This ain't Apples vs. Apples.

 

You could also just buy the unified heatsink from the P775DM2/DM3.

 

I don't know the TDP of the card, but with factory overclock and driver it can get up to 19200 graphics points in Fire Strike which is pretty close to the watered down GTX1080 in the Asus GL702VI.
On CPU side all laptops have a tdp limit of 45W for the 8750h, but the Helios 500 allows unlock to 56.250W. Yes this is lower then the desktop CPU in the Clevo but there is no problem with the CPU in the Clevo after delid.
Clevo should step up on VGA cooling.
The overclocked 1070 will stay under 70C even at intensive gaming in the Helios.
If the RTX 2080 can stay at a maximum temp of 80C in the Clevo I would consider that good.

I also hope Clevo made a better vbios.

For me when I had a p775dm3-g the gtx 1089 was acting weird .
It suppose to have 200w tdp limit but most of the times it was power throttling during heavy usage and the boost clock was jumping around 1740-1860 MHz.

So far the most stable boost clock (rock solid 1910 MHz ) I have seen was for the Asus Chimera g703vi+g703gi bga books. I wonder what did Asus do which Clevo could not.

 

Helios 500 V56 is 120W, Clevo 1080 is 190W, Asus Chimera 1080 is 220W.

 

I was talking about the gtx 1070 in Helios.
Clevo gtx 1080 is only 190w? No wonder it is throttling compared to the Chimera :/
Kinda shame that Clevo can't even cool down a lowered tdp 1080 and besides pwr throttling it has to temp throttle at 88C as well.

 

Helios 500 1070 is 125W same as Clevo 1070.

 

How much hotter do you guys reckon a 9900k and RTX 2080 combo will be in the current P775-TM chassis?

 

I have unified heatsink P775DM2/3 for sale. I used once on my P775TM1. The temperatures are distributed more evenly between the CPU and the GPU. It is more important for me to easily change paste on the GPU removing only one GPU heatsink rather than to remove the whole unified heatsink. PM to me if you are interested.

 

2080 should be cooler since it's lower TDP on larger die surface, 9900K is a fireball as you can see from Notebookcheck review for example.

 

My Samsung P961 512GB NVMe was keeping warm all the time with temperatures crossing 60C quickly.

Applied small heatsinks and it improved a little with idle 50C-52C and 54C-58C during load.

Out of curiosity I moved the NVMe (still with the small heatsinks installed) from Slot 1 to Slot 2 and now idle temperature is 36C-38C..normal use not exceeding 40C and so far it went to 50C max on load during Crystal Mark Speed test. Huge improvement with just a slot change.

I believe there should be a ventilation hole in the storage slot for all the heat to move out. There is a small hole and grill for the subwoofer but the grill is covered half on the storage side. I initially planned to cut the other half to make a hole behind the grill for ventilation but just moving a slot worked for now. Will do it later when I install another NVMe in Slot 1.

 

60c is still not worth worrying about with an SSD.

 

Similar observation here. My MX500 M.2 SATA in slot 1 gets to 66C on the controller even with a heatsink installed. Slot 2 gets more airflow due to the larger ventilation cutout on the bottom cover and being right under the GPU fan intake, so more cool air is drawn over the SSD in slot 2. I’m reserving slot 2 for a future NVMe upgrade as they run much hotter than SATA.

 

Okay got my new P775TM-1 this afternoon and am getting what seems to be a rather prevalent Win 10 deal. Charger plugged in but not charging memo when high-lighting battery condition windows note tray.

Note I plugged charger to computer and then charger to wall outlet and let stay that way for 30 seconds. Removed charger cord from rear of puter and then replugged charger to computer as said to do in manual. So that was done according to manual to "unlock" the battery from shipping.

Have removed and re-installed the battery. Have deleted M$ ACPI compliant battery control driver. Scanned changes and Win 10 had already put the driver from HD back. Well SSD. Search says no newer driver found.

Now whut?
RGone...2019

 

Check your FlexiCharger setting in the BIOS.

 

Long shot, but do you have any unified vs separated benchmarks?

I do know that without a doubt it'll cool down my CPU comparatively, but wondering if you had done any before and after testing for your own curiosity.

Hows the cooler replacement process? Seems pretty standard. Would give me a chance to replace paste too.

 

Okay is a new computer much different than two lesser gateway laptops.

FlexiCharger was set to begin charge at 85% and stop at 95%. So seeing about 85% left...well it had not begun to charge when plugged in and computer in use. I unhooked charger and used computer until down to about 80% and then plugged up charger and surely enough began to charge. I set begin charge at 85% and charge to 100%. The 100% is because I don't want to go mobile without a pretty sufficient charge. Sort of ticks me off that I am 98% charge now and if I went on battery it would be with less than 100% charge.

I see No way to get a full charge at anytime I desire when knowing I am going on battery only for a short time. Oh well. New shett.

 

The Windows battery percentage is not fully accurate, and it will trickle charge near the end instead of fast charging straight to 100% to preserve the battery.

 

Benchmarks score and fps in games are the same.

Temperatures are distributed more evenly between CPU and GPU. My processor is CPU delidated so in games the processor is usually cooler, the GPU is warmer (the difference can reach 15 degrees Celsius). With combined cooling the CPU and GPU temperature is evened out. So the CPU has a higher temperature than before and the GPU a bit lower. On egz. more or less, before: CPU ~55-60C, GPU ~70, after: CPU ~65, GPU ~65. (CPU delided, GPU uV no OC, Games scenario with g-sync)

I tested a bit and came to the above conclusions +
1. when I wanted to replace the thermal paste only on the GPU I had to unscrew the entire heatsink and replace it on the CPU too, which I did not like.
2. without a unified heatsink, when the CPU was working ~ 55-60 the fan was spinning slower and thus it was quieter, it was possible to hear mainly a GPU fan. On a unified heatsink, the fan of the CPU works faster and it's more audible. The common CPU and GPU noise is a bit larger than before.

I do not know what temperatures your CPU and GPU reach, and how your EC works with your config. You can have different results than I do.

You can buy unified heatsink on ebay but it's expensive, or from Chine (cheaply but less sure what will come and you wait 1 month). From me you would have a Chinese price or less + shipping.

 

Okay been thru manual (User) and have finally gotten into the keyboard backlight settings. But having set all to RED they do not remain lit. ??? P775TM-1

 

Check the auto timeout setting for the keyboard lighting.

 

I guess it couldn't hurt to grab it and try it out. Go ahead and send me a PM or an email ([email protected]) and we'll work something out.

 

Also use the keyboard settings to adjust brightness.

 

Not having it easy with this image thing right now. Must have forgotten too much about working around "posting". Hehe. I was just so pleased and tickled by my tech support experience with HIDEvolution and Zoltan that I decided to show where the backlight keyboard timer was located for some other lost user like I was. I had even been in that menu but "failed" to recognize a "timer". Yeah right. Oh well.
RGone...2019

 

Full details of this are in your user manual, I believe if you search backlight in the manual the second entry in the index is "Backlight Keyboard - Enter Sleep Timer (Device)"

Always worth reading up your manual if you are unsure about any features of your product.

 

Hi all, first time poster.

I've recently bought a Clevo p775tm1, supposedly with an unlocked bios, as my re-seller could not offer a prema bios.

However, it seems the "unlocked" bios, even with all the power limits maxed out and whatnot, will throttle the cpu whenever it pulls more than 118.75 watts, independent of the temps.

So with a budget of 118W, this is what I could achieve.



It's such a complete bummer that there is cancer code behind the "unlocked" bios.

 

What does XTU give as your throttle reason?

 

Wonder if the new Clevo refresh is also imposing a 119W TDP limit on the CPU

 

Now that's the kicker, Intel XTU does not flag any throttling when running into the 119w power limit during obvious throttling in Cinebench.

However, HWínfo64 flags VR TDC & Max VR Voltage, ICCmax, PL4 as triggered. And registers a lower all core ratio.

 

What are your core ratios, VR current limit, and core voltage set to in the BIOS?

Try increasing TDC current limit in the Core/IA VR domain.

 

I doubt it. The previous version did not have such limit, and the refresh beefed up the CPU side of the heatsink.

 

It's all good at 6x49 @1095 override when running r15, HWinfo64 reports average voltage around ~1.173v. When all cores set to x50 multiplier with voltage being set with override @ 1115 it throttles down to x48 on most cores, setting it to adaptive with an offset voltage throttles it further.

VR current limit is set to 1023, PL1 & PL2 are also set to max values.

My bios does not allow for any more tinkering than setting core ratio, pl1/pl2/vr limit and some voltages.

 

Who created this unlocked bios and from what reseller?

See also http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ounge-phoenix-4.809589/page-206#post-10762001

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ounge-phoenix-4.809589/page-206#post-10761878

Tested 50x with lower Cashe ratio?

 

New Heatsink for RTX

Fastest Customizable Gaming Notebooks & Mobile Workstations | CLEVO System Integrator

 

1770 cb @ 5.3ghz is very neat! And it saddens me being power limited on my end, the best I can do is x49 all core and ~1630 cb whilst being crippled.

I've played around with a lower cache ratio and higher multiplier for a bit, x40 cache and all core x50 multiplier, it wasn't stable. There's just not much room to improve on 118w power limit.

I bought it from mm-vision, they don't even offer this laptop anymore from their site. The bios is probably the stock "unlocked" one that they get with their barebone clevo's, it allows for some OC and power limits.

 

Not sure what bios version you have and if use a bios/Ec from another OEM will help. Maybe @Meaker@Sager know.

 

Wow! What about older brother P775?