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    *** Official Sager NP9175 / Clevo P775TM Owner's Lounge! ***

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    Why you don't use stock bios from Clevo? Latest version it seems okay. We have about 1900 CB.

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    8700K 8086K

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    I wonder why Clevo needed change vram layout.
    upload_2019-1-27_16-19-10.png
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    Ddr6? Who knows... More condensators? From 29.01 we can publicate all photos..

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    RTX 2080 will come with lower TDP/TGP vs older gen

    And the vram layout can be so much. None equal. More like a lottery. Almost as they want do a change only for the change.
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    Please don't fill this topic with Msi ****- parts. Is lower performance and lower quality. As you know Clevo have own standards which is fully defined by NVIDIA. All cards are build together with NVIDIA. So is it. About TDP i cant say nothing for this moment. Sorry.

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    Some needed MSI parts to be able to upgrade their Clevo machines due Clevo's layout changes. And from what I know... Some of they are +200w. Oh'well
     
    Papusan, Jan 27, 2019
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  7. clevo-extreme

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    Some you mean.. Old models.. But upgrade is free choice.. Msi quality and service doesn't worth any 1 cent.. So.. This format as I wrote before is only created with cooperation with NVIDIA. Not only CLEVO.

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    Usually pretty similar ;)
     
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    So the stock bios, doesn't have this power limit? The official clevo page does not list bios downloads anymore, are you referring to the repository page?
     
    jc_denton, Jan 27, 2019
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    You can download from our site clevo-computer.com from support

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    GDDR6 requires even more strict routing layouts than GDDR5x.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 27, 2019
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    Will this mean MSI and Clevo will use same layout? Or can they determine what they want themselves to a lesser grade?
     
    Papusan, Jan 27, 2019
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    With Nvidia not releasing a standard design it's up to each OEM what design they choose to use. Nvidia will have a recommended memory layout and it will be up to the OEMs to either follow that reliable layout or strike out on their own and research alternatives.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 27, 2019
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    Yeah I expected/though so. Could the memory layout be reused with minimal changes from Pascal cards design?
     
    Papusan, Jan 27, 2019
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    The clevo pascal cards were designed around GDDR5x requirements, as I said the GDDR6 requirements are more restrictive.
     
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    It will be interesting see Clevo’s memory layout vs. what MSI will use. From what I understand from you... Clevo follows Nvidia’s recommended memory layout. Thanks
     
    Papusan, Jan 27, 2019
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    Usually yes, MSI have their own graphics devision so have more leeway for such stuff but to be fair look at the desktop chips they are all pretty similar.
     
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    Just an update; I've updated the EC & Bios, and it seems the 118w limit has indeed been raised in the newer bios. Thank you for suggesting it!

    Currently testing it, however 6x51 @ Override 1295 with -100mV offset, is stable without throttling.

    [​IMG]
     
    jc_denton, Jan 28, 2019
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    I like your desktop background :) got some hks spark plugs in my car when it needed something to better handle the heat :)
     
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    Thanks man, here´s the clean version.

    [​IMG]

    Does anyone have any tips on how to deal with all the heat from 5Ghz oc, besides lowering voltage and cache?
     
    jc_denton, Jan 28, 2019
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    Can you link to the BIOS update and if it is for the 8700K / GTX1080 setup?

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    Qadhi79, Jan 28, 2019
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    I went to clevo-computer.com, under support you can access their bios repository.

    Alternatively, https://repo.palkeo.com/clevo-mirror/P7xxTMxG/

    Flash EC Version 10710 first, then Bios 10715.
     
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    Just be sure yours is the same model.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 29, 2019
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    Some benchmarks i9-9900k and rtx 2080 into P775TM1-G bios 7.18 [​IMG]

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    And for comparison GPU score is much higher p870dm3-g with i7-9700k and 2x gtx 1080 in sli [​IMG]

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    clevo-extreme, Jan 29, 2019
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    I’m torn between the P775 with 2080/9900k and the Alienware 51m, not sure which to order tonight
     
    HaloGod2012, Jan 29, 2019
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    I´m assuming these are at stock speeds?
     
    jc_denton, Jan 29, 2019
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    Hi guys i have published my review of Clevo P775TM-1 with RTX 2060. I don't see relevant lounge for this model so i'm posting it here (review is in Polish).

    https://pclab.pl/art79718.html
     
    Legion343, Jan 29, 2019
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    So I went ahead and grabbed the 775 instead of the Alienware , see my specs below. Will the 330 watt power supply be enough for this rig ?


    [​IMG]
     
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    Yes. Are stocks. Test always we do with stocks clock's.

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    Yes. I've seen. So.. Just Lear polish... I'm jocking.. Taka sytuacja :) So.. NVIDIA still not updated drivers on site or?

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    This seems a bit low for a 9900k and 2080. The 2080 should be doing 26K graphics score and the 9900K should be hitting 24K plus on the physics score. Something seems wrong


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    Just waiting for new drivers. Don't forget this is not fully desktop PC this is notebook and is with stock clocks. Drivers are latest available and ac adapter is 780w.

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    Yes but other notebook with the rtx 2080 like the MSI titan are hitting 26K graphics score.


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    Can you post gpu & cpu temps you were getting?
     
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    Another concern is why is this laptop shipping with only a 330watt psu? I ordered the 9900K and 2080 and I don’t think 330 is sufficient.


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    I don´t think you need to worry about not having enough power, instead focus on how to dissipate all that heat from 9900k :p

    On a more serious note, I've yet to run into any problems with the stock power supply whilst pushing 190w on gpu and 165w on the cpu. Thermals are the real enemy for p775tm1 at these ranges.
     
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    Where can we purchase the Clevo converter box so that we can connect 2 power supplies ? Or the bigger 700 watt power supply? Are these listed to buy somewhere ?


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    Where I could do an upgrade to 2070/2080? Do I have to change the heatsink or I could use stock P775TM1?
     
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    I believe the vrm layout on the 2080 is different and requires a different heatsink, have a look at page 195.

    [​IMG]
     
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    If you looking to buy from European Channel just let us know. We have on stock.

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    Shi**t :p unified heatsink again :( :( :( :( :(
     
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    This is stock heatsink for rtx 20xx... CLEVO P775TM1-G

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    So how are temperatures on the 9900K and 2080?


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    I was having second thoughts about ordering the 775, and starting to think I should have gone with the msi 75 titan with the 2080 and 8950HK, I was told both laptop would perform similar but MSI seems to have better build and keyboard. The benchmarks Clevo posted also scare me since they are way below what the msi is hitting. Thermals also seems to be way better in the titan. Can’t decide !!
     
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    I prefer personally p870 series. I can do everything myself and I don't need newest cpu or newest rtx vgas. I have i9-9900k and gtx 1070 and is Oky.

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    Buy from an @Prema partner shop. I mean the Clevo.

    P870TM1
    RTX 2080 Mobile Benchmark
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    It's worth noting the Titan is a lot bigger and heavier than the 775; it's built to take 2 cards in SLI which is why it has better thermals. The closer comparison between a Titan and a Clevo would be the 870, which was also designed for SLI.

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