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GREAT temps? You sure? I love my 9900k with my 1070 but I wouldn't call the temps "great". I easily hit 90+ when running over 90W. I hit 160+ watts when at 5GHz on all cores, so I have it limited to 4.4 so it peaks at around 100W instead. I run -90 mv in throttlestop for both cache and core.

I want to engineer some sort of solution but I'm not good with that sort of thing. The new heatsink couldn't be that good, could it? I definitely don't expect the unified to make that much of a difference...

 

So I just got off the phone with HID, and the AUO QHD 120hz gsync panel I ordered won’t enable gsync with the RTX cards, they tried everything and couldn’t get it to work. Something about Clevo not paying royalties to nvidia?? Anyways, is there a way to enable gsync since I know all the hardware supports it ?


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Hi. As my p775tm1-g is on the way, i wondered, that is the keyboard the same as it was in p771dm-g?
The reason i ask this is that i bought one in 2016 and spilled some s*** on it while drinking in 2017 and after cleaning it thorougly (in unofficial service), keyboard developed some minor kinks. The biggest was, that after pressing "down" key, it would automatically start hitting "printscreen" button. It was not a big bother. Another thing was touchpad not activating after sleep. Then, in 2018 during my trip to chernobyl i lost it during drinking again. What bothers me most is the question, was that keyboard issue repairable and if so, what would have to be changed. Physically the keyboard worked fine (eg. No sugar).

 

5 Ghz with 9900k needs water-cooling (at least AIO) to keep the temps at acceptable level.

 

Especially at high loads indeed, its 33%more power hungry than a 8709k at least.

 

Recently ordered P775tm from HID with 9700k and 2080. I will receive it around Feb 20th, I can't express my level of excitement for my first DTR machine! I will definitely return with benchmarks, temps, oc specs etc, when It arrives!

PS: If anyone is wondering who to order a Clevo machine from, I would HIGHLY recommend HIDevolution (as many others before me) for many reasons. From my experience, they have the best (and most) options for screens, they have delidding, and are a Perma Partner. On top of them having the most (and best imo) options, they also have outstanding customer support! Would recommend 11/10

 

That's a solid combo for streaming/gaming.

 

Can you please post temps after Fire Strike and gaming ?

 

Yes I’ll post, but fedex is late so not sure if it will
Come today


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That's because you got the second string driver. (Don't you hate when that happens!) They like to reverse the route.

What is this suppose to mean?

 

It was a overnight priority shipment so they should have arrived by 1030am. They will definitely be refunding me for shipping.


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Thank you!

After seeing this video I started to get anxious:



This system has 9700K which is significantly cooler than the 9900K, but even that goes up to 88C during gaming and it throttles down from 4.6 Ghz @ all cores to 4.2 Ghz @ all cores which is a really big throttle
THe GPU also goes up to 82-83C and throttles down by about 100 Mhz core clock.

Gaming benchmarks from 4:42

 

4.2Ghz load on all cores sounds pretty good for a 95W actual limit being in place. You can obviously play beyond that of course but it requires changing settings.

 

That 93W is PL1 while 113W or so is PL2.

And without reviewers showing the voltage.....it's way to hard to see why the results come out as they do.

 

what temps are you guys getting? I kinda want to see what it would cost to upgrade to 2080.

 

So with the new P775 from HID and dual power supplies (330 + 330), 9900K at 4.8ghz and 2080 at +150/+900, I’m scoring 28,844 firestrike graphics. This is beyond 1080ti levels so I’m very happy. Temps for the GPU Max out at 75C and CPU hovers around 80 to 86C during CPU intense games.


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your system runs cooler then mine and you're using a 9900K OCed too wtf o.0

I'm thinking I need to repaste with some kryonaut.

 

These temps are only in gaming, so not exactly a super stress test. I only ever care for max temps in gaming since that’s all I will do on this machine. For 24-7 I keep the cpu at 4.6ghz with a -140mv voltage. What system do you have? It could be cause I have the delidded 9900K from HID with conductonaut and all the pad upgrades


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My system is in my signature. Its also from HID. My temps is games like BFV are 94C for the CPU and 85C for the GPU and both are undervolted.

 

Yeah 85C is really high, I’ve had my GPU pegged at 100 percent for hours and it doesn’t ever break 75C. Another thing to note is that I am using a cooler; the thermaltake massive 20 RGB.


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that could probably be why i guess. try it without and see.

 

I see you have the 1080 version. They changed the heat sink of the new 2080 P775 models to have better cooling. I used to have a 1080 P775 and the 1080 would always hit 85 to 90C. It was normal. The new P775 heat sink runs much cooler.


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what is the new heatsink? It also doesn't explain how your 9900K is cooler then my 8700K

 

See attached, this is the new design for the RTX 2080 GPUs




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So its back to unified heatsink. So having a unified heatsink helps with cooling the CPU also it seems, maybe thats why youre 9900K runs cooler. The fin stacks also look to be bigger then the old version.

 

Yes looks that way. The previous heatsink I had in last years P775 was always allowing the GTX 1080 to hit 90C. This small change on the heatsink in this years model made a huge difference. If you are staying under 90C on your model, you are actually in good shape.


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Well thats -400 Mhz compared to the factory set values :/

Dual 330W?
Nice.
If my laptop will work well I am planning to custom build a single 600W adapter for it, easier to carry around 1 adapter than 2

 

How is 95w 400mhz less than 95w? Two different values that both place bounds on performance.

 

I meant the frequency. You said 4.2 Ghz is good, however the factory stock is 4.6 Ghz.

 

After seeing these temps I started to think that maybe I should change my order.

I ordered with 9700k but maybe changing to a 8700(non K) would be better since the 9700k has more cons than pros.

Compared to the 8700 the 9700k:
- runs about 15C hotter
- much harder to delid
- shows slightly more fps, BUT runs a lot of games (mostly poorly optimized Ubisoft games ) with microstuttering due to the lack of hyperthreading
-cost about $100 more

In my opinion a 8700 would not even closely bottleneck an RTX 2080 or am I wrong ?

I would rather run a game with smooth 110 fps with 70C than with choppy 122fps and 85C.

What do you guys think ?

 

Why would it be choppy at 85C? The Prema bios lets the 9700 and 9900K go up to 110C with no throttling. You are covered by warranty as well, go for the 9700 or 9900


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GTX 1080 = Higher TGP + smaller die. Of course it will run hotter.

 

Pretty sure it’s the heat sink in the p775 that was at fault. I’ve had many laptops with the full gtx 1080 in it and it always ran very cool.


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Not because of temps, because of no hyperthreading. Some games run smoother with it. Many 9700k users report microstuttering.

https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/a28sfr/microstuttering_in_some_games_after_getting_a_new/ndefined

Quote from Reddit:

"yes if i disable hyper threading on my 9900k and turn it into a 9700k, i get micro stutter in far cry 5, gamer nexus pointed this out as well."

 

Battlefield 5 and black ops 4 will run way smoother with the 9900K, they kill threads. Another game that will love the 9900K is anthem. I would say choose between the 8700k and 9900K


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I am not planning to oc, so a K CPU is pointless for me.

9900k in my opinion is a very bad idea for a laptop.
60db fan noise + 85-90C temp during gaming for a few extra fps? No thank you.

 

Can’t hear the noise with headphones. Most don’t realize that it’s not just about raw frames, the 9900K offers a smoother experience. I see much less stutter and skips in new games with the 9900K versus the 9700K I tested. But hey, that’s just me


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"I see much less stutter and skips in new games with the 9900K versus the 9700K I tested."

Maybe because the hyperthreading ?

 

Could be, but I saw the same stutters with the 8950HK as well in a msi titan. Never tested the 8700K.


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Okay, I changed the 9700K to 8700K. Cooler and according to this video there are no unexplained spikes with it in FC5 (unlike with 9700K):

 

No, it’s because the RTX 2080 is much easier to cool than the GTX 1080.

 

More benchmarks, looking great so far






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Obsidian PC have uploaded a small article on their P775 wiith 9900K and 2080 RTX they have been promising

https://www.obsidian-pc.com/2019/02/07/clevo-p775tm1-g-gaming-laptop-still-king/

They posted some thermals and also some benchmarks

What do people think?

 

My general feeling for people is that if you were in the market it's a nice bump up but those with the 1070 and 1080 can hang on for another generation and not feel particularly left out.

 

Do you know why HID do the P775 with dual supplies, not all re-sellers do this and Im wonder about the advantage?

Also could you replace the DualPower Supplies with this
http://www.eurocom.com/configure(2,404,0)ec

 

Because during peak system load with the 9900K and 2080, you can surpass the 330watts of one power supply. They saw usage of around 400+ watts when overclocked


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If you were going to do extreme benchmarking (shunt mod the GPU, delid and overclock the CPU with say air conditioning cooling) it could help you.

 

I've been looking at the Massive 20 RBG, but in practice how many degrees has the P775 dropped as a result?

Also anyone used this with a P775?
https://www.gearbest.com/laptop-cooling-pads/pp_672304.html

 

First I did not understand how the hell were they able to get only 92C with Aida test, but seeing the picture its clear that they downlocked the CPU from factory all core @ 4.7 Ghz to all core @ 4.2 Ghz.

Still nice though.

 

In that link, I see the price is $475 USD. If you are ordering from HID, you can select in the 780W Power Adapter for $475 under the "Extra Power Adapter" Section and then in the "Power Adapter Delete" section you can deselect the 330W power adapter that comes with it to save $100. So if you are ordering from HID (Which I recommend HIGHLY) there is no point in ordering the Eurocom one you linked imo.

If you want the best performance per dollar, the 8700K is the way to go. It is still the top gaming processor without a doubt for the price, imo. One, because of the lack of HT in the 9700k, which you all covered. Two, because of the higher temps that the 9700k reaches. And three, the minimal amount of performance you do actually get (in certain situations) compared to the jump in price. The next step up from the 8700k would be the 9900k, but with the increase of heat as well for, again, not too much increase in performance (for things like gaming at least) its just something to consider. Not saying the 9900k isn't worth it, that's what I wanted at first, I just didn't want to take that large jump in price for it personally. (because you would need to pay for the upgrade + larger/dual power adapter + better cooling)

Then again, @HaloGod2012 is reported back with good temps and great benchmarks, so what do I know? I mean ultimately, we did need to just wait for real benchmarks from actual consumers with delids, thermal pads, and liquid metal, right?

To add on to this: I kept reading that the Cooler Master NotePal U3 PLUS was the only laptop cooler that was worth it (because of the large flexibility of where to place the fans and swap out the fans for better ones and modding the base if wanting to) but now I am hearing about the Massive 20 RBG quite a lot. Anyone have any thoughts? maybe some different tests that show how much each of them actually cool CPU+GPU+System?