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This link might be useful for the P775

https://www.obsidian-pc.com/2019/02/07/clevo-p775tm1-g-gaming-laptop-still-king/

I'm looking at getting a P775 from Obsidian 9900K, RTX 2080 but am waiting to see how the reviews look of this clevo model with these specs

 

My P775TM arrived today with RTX 2080+8700K.

A FireStrike run with temps and CPU clock stability:



GPU is stock, CPU is set at 4.6 Ghz with -100mV UV. CPU has factory paste, no delid (yet).
Custom FAN profile where I set fans at 98% when cpu and gpu reaches 75C.

 

Hmmm, GPU seems to be underutilized according to the percentage graph? It should be pretty much a flat line at 100% throughout, aside from the Physics Test. The GPU usage is especially low in the Combined Test.

 

Here is mine for reference, and also Great Score! I suspect that I might be running into a power budget issue with the PSU. It makes sense, all things considered.

 

Yes, I noticed that too. Same thing with my Acer Predator G5 with GTX 1060.

Another strange thing is that for @cq842000 it is mostly 100% during the test, however his graphics score is 1000 points lower.

 

Worth comparing that to another app just in case.

 

This test was done with 1x 4Gb 2133 Mhz RAM.
I have just installed 2x8 Gb 3000 Mhz RAM and the Physics score jumped by almost 1000 points :O
New result:



GPU utilization is still not constantly 100%. The strange thing is that I am getting better performance than @cq842000 who has better utilization.

 

Dual channel helps the physics score a lot.

 

It seems to be that the reason why the GPU is not 98-99% during the 1080p FireStrike test is because the test is too easy and not GPU intensive enough so the CPU is bottlenecking the GPU.
I runned the 4K Fire Strike test and utilization there was 98-99% throughout the test.

Well not really a big deal since the scores are fine

 

I figured out my issue. Some apps were using the GPU. Weirdly, it was Cortana, and a couple of other things that were system specific.

 

The nvidia activity icon let's you check in case something else is trying the same.

 

With this generation is unfortunately so different.. With gtx generation everything works well.

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Anyone want to make a suggestion why my volume doesn't alter when you either fn+F5/F6 or when using the windows slider? I have either max volume or mute. Realtek (R) Audio.

CLEVO P775TM1-G brand new delivered today.

 

Does this persist beyond a restart? This actually sounds like an audio driver issue.

 

Yes.

 

One thing to try, is to uninstall your audio driver, then reboot, then allow windows update to reinstall the correct driver. Try that first.

 

Now, if only Sager/Clevo would implement actual user profiles in the Control Center Application. That would make it almost perfect in my opinion. As it stands, you have to manually record values for Gaming vs Benchmarking on a notepad application, then manually change everything. It would just be super nice if like Intel XTU, there were user profiles.

 

How on Earth are you getting so low temps? Not even max fans can cool it down to such low temps. Is your cpu delidded? How much UV did you apply? Are you using some special thermal paste and a notebook cooling pad ?

 

Old overclocking technique involving lower ambient deltas. Texas has been having some cold weather lately. I do use a cooling pad, and I did order the the Kryonaut Thermal Grizzly paste on the GPU/CPU. I found through testing that a -150mV undervolt works great. Anything greater at stock and performance begins to slightly degrade on synthetic benchmarks, especially at the 5ghz turbo.

 

Hi, what cooling pad do you use?

 

I bought a TopMate C7 on Amazon a while back. That's the one I'm using.

 

About cooling pads: I recently bought one and it maybe cools an extra 2 degrees. I am dissapointed about that and would expect better results. What are your experiences here?

 

2 degrees is still more effective than not using it, right? Until someone comes along and makes a waterblock for this beast, we are stuck trying absolutely anything that will cool without causing harm. I kinda wish I hadn't sold my endmill now.

 

On my system I noticed that when I’m using a cooling pad in light loads or when idle, the upper part of the laptop is hotter than without it, but the temperatures of the CPU and GPU are certainly lower. I suspect that the one flipped fan does not pull air from the upper part because low temp on cpu. CPU does not heat up so the EC does not raise the fan speed -minus upper chassis airflow = hot keyboard when browsing or playing video

 

There is a hybrid watercooled waterblock you can get on taobao, not that I'd trust it let alone on a shiny new warrantied laptop. IMO it lacks enough screws for mating the surfaces but worse, neglects compressible sealing (o rings) completely...

External watercooling is the only way to handle heat, there is just no other way to get 45dBa and 60C temps while drawing 500W on 4K gaming like I get on my WC P870, which otherwise needs >60dBa of fans to hang in the mid 80Cs

 

Could you PM me the link? NVM, I found it, but it's for the GTX 1080. I can see quite a few areas that this design could be done way better... mostly to do with the water channels and lack of extruded fins in the channel, plus that the water doesnt even flow directly over the hottest parts.



If I can source an extra P775TM1-G heatsink, I'll break out the calipers and the draft paper, and design a suitable waterblock to scale in Fusion 360. These are a few of my designs.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2765434
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2740640
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2730213
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2725132 (It's a pellet rifle, not a firearm)

 

That's part of why the thermal results are so poor.

 

Did you end up monitoring the power budget further?

Wondering how your 9900k + 2080 is working with a 330W PSU. Seems like it would be awfully close. Perhaps undervolting keeps you under, but any extra voltage or overclocking on CPU/GPU would hit a power wall. Is that the case?

Some vendors are advising buyers to get the dual 330W or 780W PSUs. Others aren't. I'm also curious as to how/whether different vendors are using power limits to keep it under 330W.

 

Seems for me the most optimal settings are 4.5 Ghz -150mV UV for the 8700K. Delid would help a lot but dont really have the time to do it now.

Some gaming benchmarks:






Out of all it seems that Crysis 3 is the most power hungry but still the CPU does not go above 90C and the temp is jumping between 79-86C. For Rise of the Tomb Raider I chose that spot because for some unknown reason it is one of the most power hungry spots in the game, it needs more resources here than in Soviet Installation. Helios 500 with 8750H CPU+heavily overclocked GTX 1070 gives here 60-62 FPS and a desktop with 6700K+overclocked GTX 1080 gives 72-75 FPS. My new desktop with 9900K+RTX 2080 gives 95 FPS at this same spot.
Battlefield 1 is just facerolling with 144 FPS

Power pulled from the wall during Crysis 3:



I also run a new FireStrike:


I have no idea why the gpu usage was more constant during this run, I did not change anything regarding the gpu. ..

ps: It seems that the AUO 144 Hz GSync screen used by Clevo is NOT affected by the ghosting issue mentioned here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/inverse-ghosting-display-issue.826834/

 

It's definitely hitting peak with the 9900k+RTX 2080. If I crank up the 2080 and tweak single core turbo to 5.2ghz, it does throttle under CPU only load, but any combined load forces an immediate power cycle, as it the laptop turns off. Anywhere below 80% is where a PSU stays happiest, longest. I found a Canadian supplier of 780w power supply (breakers in my house are 25A, and plugs are setup for 25A, so I should be good). I think I might get one next month, if for no other reason than it would be a tie in to any Uber Rig or Frankenbook.

I picked out a mini CNC mill, that will need to be ugraded, but doable. I'll probably start with a 3mm copper plate, and use copper plumbing (copper tubes) as the water channel. I have a press, and I know how to bend and flatten without kinks, so I may give this a shot when and if I can secure a P775TM1 heatsink for measurements.

If anyone removes their heatsink, please take pictures of the chip side (with measurements in mm would be ideal)

 

Seems I figured out why my GPU usage was not constant 94-99%...it is G-Sync. With GSync enabled on laptop the gpu usage is all over the place, without GSync is it more constant. Seems to me a bug in FireStrike software with laptop GSync (on my dekstop PC if G-Sync is enabled the usage is always above 96%).

 

Always disable G-Sync when benching for highest scores.

 

Does anyone know how to permanently disable that stupid feature in the CCC which turns off the kb lighting even when it is not running on battery?

 

I am not aware of any Prema Partner that will 'sell' the Custom Prema BIOS to anyone whose laptop they did not build. At HIDevolution.com, the Custom Prema BIOS is included, at no cost, for all of our P Series LGA based laptop builds.

 

Thanks for the info. @Prema is there any other way to get the BIOS?

 

Nothing official I am aware of.

 

This has been covered multiple times in various threads of this forum.

If you don't buy your Clevo based laptop from a @Prema Partner, there is no way to get the Custom Prema BIOS on current, and recent past, Clevo models.

 

More like

 

What scores are people getting with the custom BIOS just so we know how much difference it makes after all the tweaking and putting it in front of an air conditioner etc?

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Hi,

I got one of the 775TM-Gs very recently, the RTX2080 model with the 2560 x 1440 display. Unfortunately the NVIDIA Control Panel doesn't seem to be recognizing my display as a G-Sync display (ie there's no option to setup G-Sync) does anyone have any idea why ?

 

Where did you buy it?
Was it stated that the panel has G-Sync?

To my knowledge RTX 2080 does not support G-Sync with 3K AUO panels and thus that is why Alienware Area 51m also does not have a 3K option.

 

Is that so? I never even publicly asked for it.

 

Metabox and yes. It's this model https://www.metabox.com.au/store/b235/Metabox-Prime-X-P775TM-G-Laptop

(I got an early one if you're wondering about the ETAs)

It would just about be my luck that it's a G-Sync Panel but not supported by the 2080 though (I've spent the last 2 days trying to install and dual boot Linux because Linuxes support for IRST RAID0 NVMe with RAID1 SATA simultaneously is complete garbage).

 

I think you took that the wrong way, I was intending to highlight how valuable it must be as so many people ask about it, not that those who ask about it assume it should be provided, although there are some when told who do carry on and go full Gollum

 

Each combo (Chassis, gpu and display) must be certified. Speak to your reseller.

 

All good, bro. It's nigh impossible to accurately convey sarcasm with text, which is what the meme is for, but even then...

 

Maybe just wait for bios update.. We have written to support about this small bug.. Well see what they write.. Be patient.

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The EVOC High Performance Systems P870TM-R with G-Sync is only available with the Full HD (1920x1080) 144Hz screen at this time. G-Sync is not available with the QHD (2560x1440) or 4K UHD (3840x2160) screens.

We are working on getting this resolved, and when/if it is, we will reach out to our customers and offer it to them.

If you bought yours elsewhere, I recommend contacting them to request them to do the same.

 

I'd like to add to this question;

What are the benefits of the modded BIOS?

Also, has RTX mobile seen an unlocked vBIOS?

Thanks.