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    *** Official Sager NP9175 / Clevo P775TM Owner's Lounge! ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Oct 6, 2017.

  1. Shark00n

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    I’ve had similar experiences with those little heatsinks, using 3m adhesive.

    Back in the nvidia 680i days I used them to help cool the mosfets on a very hot Abit board, they started drooping and one fell on my graphics card making the pc insta-shutdown. Luckily no damage was done except in my pantalones.

    Glued metal parts that can come lose is a big no-no if you move your laptop a lot. If it’s a desk queen then I think the risk will be much lower.


    CPU undervolted and GPU undervolted, both for -100mV. Quite happy with the temps right now!
     
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    Could someone kindly link the tutorial from Mr Fox for over clocking?
     
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    Oddly enough, with this new rig, the keyboard actually displays white much much better than the previous, and with the new CCC, you can choose white, versus the old version. I may log a ticket with my builder about the keyboard sleep timer issue, which I know is a software problem and they may not be able to fix it. If so, I may opt for the Obsidian mod again. Btw, is it worth getting the whole suite of Obsidian mods, and will it void my warranty?
     
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    If you mean the undervolting video, here it is.

    His channel has plenty of useful info and guides, lots about overclocking.
     
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    Thanks much. :)
     
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    So I noticed this morning, while watching a youtube video, that the sound coming from the speakers was rather flat and I didn't detect any bass (though I knew the video would have bass). I tried searching for any app on the system for boosting bass or even an equalizer and there wasn't any. Furthermore, I checked the Realtek device, and that didn't have any settings to adjust the bass. What's odd is that there is a subwoofer speaker beneath the laptop, so I'm wondering if anyone else has come across this issue and if there is a fix for it. I am assuming that any enhanced audio is for headphones, but why would Clevo put a woofer in that really doesn't work like it should?
     
  7. Meaker@Sager

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    Have you checked the sub is firing?
     
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    I cannot say for certain if the sub is indeed functioning like it should, but then again, I don't have anything to measure the performance, aside from my old laptop, which I still have and that will pump out bass pretty well. I have come to the conclusion (with the help of a reply from Sager), that the sub and speakers have a design limitation (whatever that is). Now, if I plug in headphones, I get full range sound. Unfortunately, the response from the rep from Sager doesn't appear to be knowledgeable enough to give me a definite answer on how the system works. I told the rep that after re-installing the drivers for Realtek that came with the laptop, as well as some driver file related to Soundblaster, the performance was unchanged. Rarely did I ever have a need to go about 20 for a volume level on my previous rig, but with this one, I have to crank it to almost 40, in order to get a decent level of sound.

    I'm starting to get a funny feeling about this laptop, with the wonky way the keyboard lighting works to now discovering that I have a subpar sound system, I may just return it, since I still have that option.
     
  9. Meaker@Sager

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    There is a dedicated headphone amp and high end DAC for the headphone output so no integrated sound will match that. With the rear cover off you could see if the sub vibrates when audio is playing just to check it is as it should be.
     
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    What height have these copper heatsinks? Where can I Buy it?
     
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    Like I was saying, they are pointless unless you make further modifications.
     
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    for example, what modifications?
     
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    Cutting open the bottom cover and sticking it on a high power fan stand.
     
  14. rickddda

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    Is it generally not advised to buy a p775tm with 9700k/2080 from a non-Prema partner because of the heat issues?
     
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    I live in Estonia and bought p775tm1-g 9700k/2080 from clevo reseller ordi. They have minimal custumization options and there aint a stench of prema...still my temps are all under 82c. Undervolt -120. Havent tried stock. No issues whatsoever.
     
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    You can undervolt and overclock to get a great 24/7 machine still.
     
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    That's good to know. 82c seems much lower than what I heard from other people. Have you ever benchmarked it and see if there's performance differences?
     
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    It's a fairly decent undervolt.
     
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    Would it affect gaming performance? Comparing with stock frequencies and optimal cooling solutions (such as delidding cpus and repasting)
     
  20. Meaker@Sager

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    A dialed in 24/7 would see gaming performance gains yes, exactly how much depends on the silicon lottery.
     
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  21. Shark00n

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    Estonia is also pretty cold :p
     
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    Hello guys. I am joining the club and getting P775TM1 with i5 8600k, 16GB RAM, GTX 1060 from ebay. I dont have any info about reseller or is it prema/no prema bios. Also it seems that it doesnt have g-sync enabled.

    The question is - if i upgrade the lcd panel to g-sync compatible - will it run g-sync mode? And if the laptop is non-prema biosed, can i get prema bios somewhere?
     
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    I tried to 3dmark it and got a usual video score something 26800. Overclocking does not work. Tried msi scanner. Probably vbios prohibits overvolting or something. No guides on google and no help from the forum for mxm 2080.
     
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    No, the GPU would not be internal g-sync enabled.
     
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    I'm basically new to gaming laptops (i.e., laptops that I actually care about). I have a 17.3" P775TM-R on the way from HIDevolution. Will it arrive with some kind of keyboard cover/screen protector? I'm not even sure what they are called, as searches for "screen protector" returns anti-glare films, etc., and keyboard skins are more for keeping liquids and such from getting into the keyboard. What do you call the thing that keeps finger oils and contact from the keyboard itself from affecting the screen while it's closed?

    Any recommendations or is that not really necessary on these laptops?

    EDIT: oops, I actually intended to post this as a reply in the P775 thread. Not sure how to delete this and repost. Can it be moved there?
     
  26. Dr. AMK

    Dr. AMK Living with Hope

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    You can reporte the post and ask mod to relocate. Congratulations for your new system great laptop from respectable company.
     
  27. Pp999a

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    I wouldnt worry about shet getting into keyboard. When stationary, i use wireless keyboard/mouse and tv with lid closed. 2 problems solved.
     
  28. Meaker@Sager

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    You can keep it clean with a can of compressed air, these machines do draw air through the keyboard so putting a protector on is not going to help thermals.
     
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    Sorry, I should have been more clear. I was talking about when the laptop is closed and turned off, how do you prevent oils from the keyboard from getting the screen dirty. I think I found what I need. It's a product that is literally just a microfiber cloth sized to fit a 17.3" screen. Looks like that should do the trick. You just lay it down on the keyboard and close it up.

    I have had a couple laptops over the years that I didn't care too much about, and that's what I noticed most as far as care and maintenance that was different from a desktop. It happened to both of them, but it didn't really bother me too much with those. This laptop I actually care about! :)
     
  30. Meaker@Sager

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    Ah I see what you mean, yes a microfiber cloth sounds ideal.
     
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    It shouldn't be an issue because the rubber stoppers around the edge of the screen will stop the keyboard coming into contact with the screen

    If the keyboard does hit the screen the bigger problem is the damage that'll cause to the panel surface.
     
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  32. Shark00n

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    Putting some big micro fiber cloth between the lid and keyboard is always a good idea on any laptop. Specially if you carry it a lot and it gets pressure on the lid, like in a backpack
     
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    So I was thinking this isn't normal, but I should ask anyway.
    Right now I'm getting an idle temp of 50-55C on my CPU and 60-70C on my GPU.
    That seems a bit hot, so I just wanted to get some input from you guys here to see if there's anything I can do.

    i7-8700K delidded and GTX 1080 btw

    EDIT: GPU went down to 55C but eh.
     
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  34. Meaker@Sager

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    Have you checked if a background task is active or if the chips are idling properly?
     
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    I checked in task manager and everything seems to be normal. The only things that I saw using resources was Discord and my torrent client. Also Chrome, since I have around 70 or so YouTube tabs open in the background. The videos are prevented from autoplaying, so I don't think it'd be just that.

    How do you check if they idle properly?

    Right now the CPU is at 41C, but that's only because I have the fan on max speed.
    The GPU is currently at 60C. EDIT: Saw it go down to 49C just now, when I moved it somewhere else, but it doesn't stay there for long.
     
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  36. Meaker@Sager

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    You check the clocks and voltages are st idle eith cpu-z and gpu-z
     
  37. iRoxas

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    In Throttlestop it says this for my CPU, it's pretty much idle right now.
    upload_2019-4-14_3-51-22.png

    The log from GPU-Z: https://pastebin.com/raw/XeKSTcGQ
     
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    Could be a paste issue then.
     
  39. iRoxas

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    Ah, alright. Sadly I don't have any paste and I've never pasted a chip before.
     
  40. Papusan

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    Reboot you machine without start up any software. Look at C0% in Main ThrottleStop window. Much over 0.5% while Idle means something is taxing your Cpu. Post results.

    [​IMG]

     
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    This is what I got on a freshly booted system with startup programs and services disabled.

    [​IMG]

    After opening Chrome:
    [​IMG]
     
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    You see? Temp is lower at Idle than you stated in your previous post above. Try the same but put Speed Shift - EPP at 80.
     
  43. iRoxas

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    I think I had a lower temp the first time since I had my fans on max before I restarted. I did it again with the EPP at 80 and these are my temps now.

    upload_2019-4-14_11-44-37.png

    This is with almost all my regular startup programs running after a couple minutes.

    [​IMG]
     
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  44. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    If you run regular startup programs many of they will run in the background. As I said... Once you see C0% increase this means cpu is taxed. Higher C0% the higher Idle temp. Aka normal behaviour.

    This is while on the internet.
    upload_2019-4-14_18-6-33.png
     
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  45. iRoxas

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    From the looks of task manager, it seems Chrome and Discord use the CPU regularly, but those programs are essential so.

    What bothers me is that when I got the laptop I was able to get it down to 32C with the fans on max, but now I can't do that anymore. Also GPU seems too high, just for the programs I'm running.
     
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    775Tm use shared heatsink. Heat go out to the coldest place the whole time. Cpu heat can affect Gpu and as well the opposite. Idle state means no load on hardware.

    Do not be so caught up in idle temperature. But rather be more concerned with the temperatures under full load if you see what I mean.
     
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  47. yrekabakery

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    Turing P775TM uses shared heatsink, Pascal version (what he has) does not.
     
  48. Meaker@Sager

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    You need to be aware of ambient temperatures, is the heatsink as clean as when you got it?
     
  49. iRoxas

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    Probably not, I've had the laptop for a year but I haven't done any maintenance on it. I also have a lot of cats.
     
  50. Meaker@Sager

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    Well that's something to look into certainly.
     
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